when has Erdogan been anything other than a Turkish version of Orban?
you can`t compare Orban to Erdogan. Orban is politician that found that is in best interest of his country to have good relations equally with west of Europe, USA and Russia. Also, Orban, generally speaking (and, publicly, at least), makes an effort that Hungary have good relations with its neighbors. On the other side, what doing Erdogan? He is radical politician. Extremist. His politics endangering neighbors of Turkey- Bulgaria, Syria, Greece, Iraq, Russia, ... Also, having in mind Turkish publicly promotion of neo-Ottoman policy, Turkey is problem to entire region and world. Turkey, together with Saudi Arabia, was (is) deeply involved in destruction of Yugoslavia and partition of Serbia. Turkey is threat to Israel, to Iran, to China. Not to mention that is Turkey state founded on genocide, that even today harbors its existence from genocide on Kurds and as we all see on Syrians. Actually, Turkey-ISIS brotherhood qualify Turkey as global terrorist country, threat to global peace, with potential to commit global genocide.
Turkey can go to hell.
its actually well on that way
I pick Slavs over savage Muslim.
me, too. Always. But, Russian-Turkish conflict isn`t that. Its not conflict between Slavs and Muslim world. Turks don`t have mandate of all Muslim countries to do that what doing right now- represent global threat and terrorize world.
While the past of Russia against Poland is condenmnable, today Turkey is the biggest threath, by far.
i agree with this statement.
So at THIS specific case, Poland should and MUST support Russia, against the project of Global Caliphate of Turkey/Saudi Arabia
It would be enough that Poland follow example of Serbia- to declare its neutrality on global military alliances and, then to pledge with Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Serbia to rebuild Commonwealth around Poland (ie Intermarium).
Poland is a loyal member of NATO and (usually) does the right thing, as shown by Poland's desire to take part in the NATO mission protecting the independent nation of Kosovo.
i don`t know Harry are you absent, just confused or moron but, Polish soldiers on Kosovo have blessings from Serbia and even from Serbian Orthodox Church considering that they proved to be good and efficient protection of remaining local Serbs and Serbian holly places on Kosovo, from violence of local Albanians.
You are totally lost Harry, if you think that would Poles move against their loyal Racowie (Serbians) in order to contribute to Greater Albanian plans. Just wait and see what happening if comes to conflict.
That is a very good thread Crow.
sure it is. i distinguished myself to give valuable contribution to this excellent forum of free. This forum is as voice of another wave of Sarmatism in Poland. Cultural revolution and extraordinary virtual expirium.
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