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dolnoslask 5 | 2,183    
1 Dec 2018  #391
Nothing can save Deutsche Bank.

Crow there are not enough wheel barrows in Serbia and Poland combined, to empty Deutsche Bank.
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
1 Dec 2018  #392
Its a great fiction, my friend. See, when you have info that President of Bosnia and Herzegovina, a Serbian Milorad Dodik, share with public, you understand that beside great industry and favorable status of German economy within EU, Germany also have its colonies in real sense of the word and by that access to bestially cheap resources on European continent, in Slavic countries. That what Austria back in past achieved only temporarily when annexed Bosnia, Herzegovina, Dubrovnik and parts of central Dalmatia, Germany now exploit to the maximum, using mechanisms of NATO and EU. Scandal is so big that traces leads from Bosnia and Herzegovina to the Croatia and all the way to Austria where is even additional Croatian money printed. Now, Bosnia hold its deposits in Deutsche Bank and Germany using that money freely, manipulate, etc. Natural resources of Bosnia predominantly finishing in Germany. So, Germany have its own colonies. No, not just Bosnia. Deprive Germany of its colonies and you would see how they doing. Its for sure 1/3 of their potency. Scandal, telling you.
TheOther 5 | 3,589    
1 Dec 2018  #393
Just wait until Serbia becomes member of the EU. Then you can whine, whinge and complain to your heart's content how bad German money tastes. All the southern and east European moochers are constantly banging on about how bad the Krauts are, but they all have no problem taking their cash. Hypocrites - eff them all.
Ironside 47 | 9,261    
1 Dec 2018  #394
east European moochers are constantly banging on

A lot of stinking manure. You're a big hypocrite yourself. Top of the list is you.
TheOther 5 | 3,589    
2 Dec 2018  #395
A lot of stinking manure.

The moochers? Very true ... stinking manure. Pole position: the Hungarians, followed by the Greeks.

Top of the list is you.

You can't help yourself, can you? LOL!
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
2 Dec 2018  #396
Just wait until Serbia becomes member of the EU.

And that is why we have all this what we have around my country. Serbia is that hole in the carpet that refuse to acknowledge German and western European dominance. I say western European (ie EU) because only total moron don`t see how THEY coordinate in their subjugation of others.

Only Serbia have capacity to refuse EU membership, actually. And is Serbia refuse, new project will start, alternative to EU. That is another problem for EU (ie western Europe). Sure, Serbia`s capacity coming from fact that more world powers stand behind Serbia then are opposed to Serbia (USA already aren`t opposition, Vatican also wait to see what principle will win). Only western Europe is opposed. And have more and more problems, while Serbia more and more viable consolidate. In critical moment Serbia will re-claim, expand and deprive Germany of free and cheap European colonies, what Germany got by destructing of Yugoslavia.

In the meanwhile, parallel with this happening one other process and that is awakening of Eastern Europe. What you mean what perception of EU would have Europeans when it become truly known and accepted fact that western Europe (ie EU) invented reasons for attack on Serbia? what you think? used capacity of entire EU and NATO to subdue country that just refused to obey to dictate, to be annexed? You know what THEY did? They did economic embargo, trade embargo, blockade, bribed local politicians, initiated planetary anti-Serbian hysteria using gigantic capacities of mass media industry, invented all kind of stories and lies, organized killings just to be able to make photos of it and to use that for accusation of Serbs, used NATO conventional force against Serbian civilians in the heart of Europe, sponsored and transported mujaheedines to fight against Serbs in the heart of Europe, used NATO`s nuclear capacities against Serbs by use of depleted uranium on civilians, bombarded heavily populated cities in the heart of Europe, etc, etc.

See, that is EU. You now ask yourself why Trump restricting use of NATO to EU, while Clinton and others allowed use of NATO? See? You just learned. Problem occurred when it came to European continent. Yes, it was Yugoslavia and they tried Ukraine. They did all as previously in Yugoslavia and destroyed country, they wanted to use NATO. Then Trump came and told them ENOUGH- no world war because of your greed.

What I want to tell you, what we know of process of Serbia`s EU path is one thing and what is really behind that, is biggest untold story of Europe. If global wealth and money flow is arranged, then Serbia becoming part of EU and not as annexed but as most probable crucial economic and political point of some new reformed EU. If Serbia don`t become part of EU then obviously deal (among global players) wasn`t achieved and EU disintegrate. Simple disintegrate. Something new will be given to Europeans. Two or even three alternatives.

Hypocrites - eff them all.

No, not hypocrites. They just have matrix of behavior instilled in them. Serbs were just lucky or cursed to avoid matrix being exposed to multiple civilizations and are in the game for very long. Serbs hold old Sarmatian core. 18 Roman Emperors was born here in era of classical antiquity. Those were locals from here that ruled Rome and what many Europeans don`t know Sarmats were not subjugated but they achieved symbiotic relationship with Rome. Its the other question that such a relationship with Rome almost entirely killed wast Sarmatian (ie Slavic) civilization but Rome itself barely cope.

Then, Serbs are only Europeans that were exposed to Western and then to Eastern Roman Empire. Then to Aryanism, Islam and Judaism. To all that. And with all that Serbs managed to keep memory to Svetovid and their ancestral faith in Christianize form.

See, that is why Serbs coming as natural mediators for modern-day global world powers. All of them see something for themselves in us. And we managed to stay normal only thanks we desperately preserved connection to ancestral faith. All that gave us some kind of independence but of anybody is independent on this Earth those are Serbs. Crippled but independent. Many fear what would come of us if we aren`t crippled. We also fear us. That is why they hold us and we mediate. They, world powers, give us just enough air to breathe and we give them communication and fragile balance between all of them.
TheOther 5 | 3,589    
2 Dec 2018  #397
deprive Germany of free and cheap European colonies, what Germany got by destructing of Yugoslavia.

The Germans were already one of the top trading nations of the world long before the Yugoslav Wars, the Maastricht Treaty and the introduction of the Euro. Poof ... there goes your theory ... :)

Only western Europe is opposed.

The modern day "nationalists" in Europe and the US want to take the world back to the 1930s when each country fought on its own or in a complicated network of alliances that only brought death and destruction. Do you really believe that Serbia or Poland will be able to negotiate favorable trade deals with the USA in that scenario? Remember: America first! Divided, the European nations do not stand a chance against the USA, Russia and China. Together - different story. It's your choice, but looking at BREXIT it seems that the numb nuts have won.

They did all as previously in Yugoslavia and destroyed country

Stop blaming NATO, Crow. Serbia and its genocidal regime destroyed Yugoslavia, and no one else.
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
2 Dec 2018  #398
The Germans were already one of the top trading nations of the world long before the Yugoslav Wars, the Maastricht Treaty

Sure, they were power already and they secured their continual growth by new fresh cheap resources. So, don`t look at what was Germany 30, 40 or 50 years ago. Look what is Germany now and where Germany would be in 50 years if survive. But deny Germany Bosnia, Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Kosovo and then see where would be Germany. Then also, deny resources of Siberia which they provide from Russia and again look where would be Germany. See?

No, don`t tell me. They will probably exterminate some Africans. That`s how that function, isn`t it. They go there were they can exterminate. Then they spread human rights or they don`t bother and just bring up some Hitler and make it. That? Yes.

Do you really believe that Serbia or Poland will be able to negotiate favorable trade deals with the USA in that scenario?

When come to that, there won`t be only Poland and Serbia. Will be like one more EU. Just better then that. Remember: Balkan-Baltic first!

And no, Serbia didn`t destroy Yugoslavia. EU, NATO, Islamic league and their regional satellites that already had developed whole genocidal ideologies, did.
Ironside 47 | 9,261    
2 Dec 2018  #399
You can't help yourself, can you? LOL!

In stating the obvious? In the face of a total garbage you're spewing that is just a given.
I just would like you what standards you apply to formulate your opinion on the subject. On the first glance you just spin it out of the thin air.
TheOther 5 | 3,589    
2 Dec 2018  #400
But deny Germany Bosnia, Herzegovina, Dalmatia, Croatia, Slavonia, Kosovo and then see where would be Germany.

For Germany, there's no business to speak of in these countries. You should have a look at the list of top German trading partners. None of the nations you mentioned are even in the top 40. Croatia is #47.

like one more EU. Just better then that. Remember: Balkan-Baltic first!

Good luck with that. You'll need it to compete with the EU, the US and China.

In the face of a total garbage you're spewing

Not my problem if you are unable or unwilling the understand simple facts. Seems to be a general problem with our self-proclaimed conservative "nationalists" here.
Tacitus 1 | 766    
3 Dec 2018  #401
Crow, are you aware that the Balkans are overall a very poor area that has little economic value for Western Europe. It might become valiable after 30 years of EU investment, but currently a country like Austria is worth several times more than Serbia.
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
3 Dec 2018  #402
Am I sensing your cry? You got yourself Romania and Bulgaria in EU, heh? Man, they aren`t Balkans. They are Near East. Serbia and entire former Yugoslavia is something else.

Serbia is among best world destinations for investments, by the World Bank. Serbian currency Dinar is second-best in the world, by the Bloomberg.

It is the other thing that Germany, Austria, Italy and friends, gave and giving their best to ruin us. So we need more time for perfection. But well, let us deprive Germany of its colonies on Balkans, and let us then see how Germany performing.

BDW, I heard that Poroshenko of what is now Ukraine call Germany for help. Listen, I truly hope Germany do exactly that. Germany have to do that. Who gives a sh**. Give it a try.

Good luck with that. You'll need it to compete with the EU, the US and China.

What EU?
Ironside 47 | 9,261    
3 Dec 2018  #403
Not my problem if you are unable or unwilling the understand simple facts

what facts? The problem is that you present your OPINION (oft ignorant one) as facts. Then you get offended if someone point it out or pull you on that. Is that really your response? phew! What a looser!
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
3 Dec 2018  #404
11 th country annulling its Kosovo recognition.

11th country rescinds Kosovo recognition; "Nothing to deny"

Dacic confirms, Pristina denies new recognition withdrawal

Solomon Islands ,,,,,,,,,,,,, Grenada, Dominica, Suriname, Liberia, Sao Tome and Príncipe, Guinea-Bissau, Burundi, Papua New Guinea and Lesotho

add Egypt to it and that is 11. Bets are here in Serbia that Czech Republic would be first European country to annul Kosovo recognition.
Tacitus 1 | 766    
3 Dec 2018  #405
Serbia is among best world destinations for investments, by the World Bank.

Source please.

Man, they aren`t Balkans

They have the same problems though. Poverty, corruption and abysmal infrastructure (though the latter is changing thanks to the EU).

Bottom line, the Balkans are poor with a rather low capita per citizen. Some countries like Croatia are now benefitting from German investments, but the whole region is of no great economic significance to Western Europe.
Tacitus 1 | 766    
3 Dec 2018  #406
I am not bothering to check every country, but since Wikipedia states that e.g. Guinea-Bissau has not withdrawn its' recognition, I'd take anything you write here as highly dubious.

And what makes you think that the Czech Republic will withdraw its' recognition. Czech PM Andrej Babiš has repeatedly stated his support for Kosovo. Your claims about Egypt seem to be pure fiction as well.
Lyzko 18 | 5,325    
3 Dec 2018  #407
For a while though, Croatia was a fairly popular tourist destination for Germans, at least according to my sources, namely, German friends and acquaintances, who'd often spend their down time by traveling, usually winding up either in Croatia or Dalmatia.

Germany has been expanding her world markets at such speed, I'm constantly at wit's end to try and keep up:-)
mafketis 16 | 6,322    
3 Dec 2018  #408
Croatia was a fairly popular tourist destination for Germans

I think the Adriatic coast still is, it's gained in popularity among Polish tourists in recent years (I haven't been but would like to some day) I've only been to Zagreb which mostly seemed like a smaller, cleaner somewhat less interesting Budapest....
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
3 Dec 2018  #409
Source please.

Source is world bank. I told in my post. You want to check go seek, lazy man.

After all, I merely giving info to people. I don`t want to convince anybody in anything. It would be waste of time.
Tacitus 1 | 766    
3 Dec 2018  #410
You want to check go seek, lazy man.

I did, and I have not found anything supporting your claim. I guess you are lying again.
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
6 Dec 2018  #411
Serbia, 2nd best currency in the world, by Bloomberg >

BLOOMBERG: Serbian Dinar second-best performing currency in the world over the last 12 months

Serbia's 10-year notes still offer a yield of 5.88 percent, more than double the rate on Hungarian and Czech securities, Bloomberg says ............. one of few nations in eastern Europe that still offers a positive real yield on short-term investments.

Serbia, 1st position in Foreign Direct Investments in the world, by UK's Financial Times >

Net inflow of foreign direct investments in first four months of 2018 amounts to EUR 871 million

Last year, Serbia had a net inflow of FDI in the amount of EUR 2.4 billion and placed first on the list published by UK's Financial Times among 94 countries ranked by the global greenfield investment index.

And, sure, when you progress, there are people who would like to take you from 21st century and return you to 19th century > arms to terrorists >

Daily: CIA sending ship full of arms to Kosovo army

A ship with a container full of the latest weaponry for the needs of (a future) Kosovo army is on its way across the Atlantic to the port of Durres in Alabania.

Tacitus 1 | 766    
6 Dec 2018  #412
arms to terrorists

You mean arms to the legitimate government of Kosovo.
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
6 Dec 2018  #413
No, members of that army were by US documents seen as terrorists. It means that they killed many innocent civilians and state officials of Serbia. Then suddenly, US stance changed and same people started to be seen as freedom fighters. Go just google on Shquiptar (Albanian) UCK or KLA. Those same people formed then Kosovo police and now forming Kosovo army. Many are also ISIS veterans.

Also, Kosovo isn`t sovereign state no mater that US and some other countries recognized Kosovo. Kosovo isn`t member of UN and isn`t recognized by most of UN member states. Kosovo isn`t member of Interpol and UNESCO. Most importantly, there are ongoing negotiations in Brussels regarding status of Kosovo. Its dialogue between Belgrade and rogue government in Kosovo. If Kosovo is independent, Serbia wouldn`t be asked, don`t you agree? And Serbia is asked because Kosovo was by NATO (in military intervention) taken from Serbia and because of UN resolution 1244 (which resulted from signed truce between sides in conflict, NATO and Serbia) that see Kosovo as Serbian province under UN protectorate. By resolution 1244 Serbia do have right to have up to 1000 soldiers on Kosovo if local Serbs are threatened but, Serbia agreed to talk, instead to increase tensions.

As you see, some others (Albanians, NATO, ISIS and EU) don`t feel necessity to avoid tensions.

Vucic: I'm convinced there'll be no war

Source: B92 Thursday, December 6, 2018 | 11:17


"I also think that Jens Stoltenberg's message was good and I hope they will understand that in Pristina. .............. many people are trying to make them see reason, .............. important that the international community also understands who wants peace.

OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
6 Dec 2018  #414
Spot the title in Serbian news media regarding visit of Serbian PM Ana Brnabic to Poland >

/translation: MEETING WITH GREAT WORLD LEADERS Ana Brnabic travel to Katowice and have IMPORTANT BUSINESS!/

Brnabić je, uoči početka konferencije, razgovarala sa ..................... zamenikom ministra ekologije Poljske Mihaelom Kurtikom

/translation: Before meeting Brnabic talked to deputy of Polish minister of ecology Mihael Kurtik/


Beside ecological topics, article giving a hint of main task of Ana Brnabic in Poland and that is giving of a clear signal to Poland that Serbia believe that time has come for Poland`s-Serbia`s closer relations because of common future, shared problems and on the base of traditionally close historical and cultural ties. Timing for visit of Serbia`s charismatic PM and world recognized economic expert to Poland is also perfect. Both countries shows significant economic results and boost of military. Both countries are regional powers. And both countries feels pressure from western Europe (EU) on various topics.

It is indicative that both Poland`s president Duda and Poland`s PM Mateusz Morawiecki missed chance to personally talk to Serbia`s PM Ana Brnabic. By sending PM to Poland, Serbia wanted exactly that, to offer person of significant rank to talk to top Polish officials.
OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
7 Dec 2018  #415
News from the region

12th country to annul Kosovo recognition

Madagascar revokes recognition of Kosovo

The (Democratic) Republic of Madagascar has informed the Serbian Ministry of Foreign Affairs that it has revoked the decision to recognize Kosovo.

Haradinaj: Americans will defend Kosovo

"Serbia will not have the courage to send soldier in Kosovo, and even if that happens, Americans will defend us," says Ramush Haradinaj.

US ambassador on Kosovo: Forming Kosovo army is positive step

New US Ambassador in Pristina Philip Kosnett says the announced formation of an army in Kosovo, to be debated in the assembly on Dec. 14, is "a positive step."

OP Crow 146 | 7,596    
15 Dec 2018  #416

Miroslav Lazanski - top Serbia`s political and military annalist of Polish origin

One very interesting and successful Polish life.


He writes on political and military matters, is a correspondent and commentator for the Belgrade daily Politika. ..... His paternal family is of Polish origin.


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