Life after Covid19

It may be too early to make predictions about life after Covid19 but that does not mean we can't start the conversation.
Will the majority of people feel happy to get on a plane?
Especially on long kaul flights.
How will this effect the aero industry and in turn the tourism industry that depend on them?
Hotels, restaurants, cab drivers, tour guides?
All devestated....
After furlough, how many people will be made redundant?
With so many company's goung bust and huge unemployment the tax revenue will shrink.
How will countries be able to afford to sustain basic services, let alone pay off the debt?
Loads of questions.... does anyone have any answers?

My only prediction is that mass tourism is dead, at least for a couple of years. It's hard to imagine anyone being willing to stay in mega hotels with 1000+ guests, nor can I imagine them crowding onto ski slopes in winter. I can imagine demand going up for rural houses where people can spend time in isolation, especially in some areas like Eastern Poland.

A lot of people have little or no choice; work, residence, family. Long haul flights will return, however they'll be more expensive.


Millions, sadly.

How are the Chinks ever going to pay us back for all the death and destruction they caused, or do we go to war?

Agreed.

Countries oriented primarily on tourism are about to face full and utter economic collapse, which will be followed by social and even ethnic unrest where exist other conditions for that.


Also, agreed. The way how people comprehend tourism already change. Smaler, more intimate and isolate locations will be attractive. Mountains and forests get on importance.

@delphiandomine

I agree, mass tourism is dead, at least for quite a while.
Rural houses in Podlasie may fare well, not too many people, plenty to do on the water or in forests.
Already quite popular with Germans.

@jon357

Already some countries are helping out their major airlines but a lot of the small budget airlines
and a few of the bigger ones too will probably go under and some smaller airports may close.
Less flights, less passengers, less competition equals, as you say, higher prices.
I can't see my continental employees flying home two or three times a year any more.
They just won't be able to afford it.
And yes, mass unemployment is coming........... any business that can get back to even
75% of it's pre Covid income will be doing well.

@Joker

I don't see war coming, that is the last thing anyone needs right now.
But the whole world needs to reassess it's relationship and dependency on China.

Much depends on how and how quickly the virus can be contained.
The longer it goes on the worse it will be.

Things don't look great right now.

Why China in particular? The whole world don`t need to depend on any single power or country.

Open yourself to the entire world.

Because that is where the virus came from, they are untrustworthy and they account for over 20% of the USA's imports.

Eh, we yet have to see from where virus come from. As far as we know it could be Bill Gates laboratory in China or who knows where and maybe even Gates is innocent. And China isn`t worse than other world power. Give them a chance and they will all ride you like a horse. Don`t depend neither from China, neither from any other world power, from nobody.

Don`t take brat Trump literally. He is a businessman first and he have more problems coming from within USA than with China.

He is almost certainly innocent. It's rather crazy that baseless conspiracy theories have emerged around him, many of them pushed by anti-vaxxer cranks. They are on the same level as the 'mole children' and 5g conspiracies.


This is sadly likely. There will still be a need though for foreign specialists, construction workers (often from China), petrochemicals people etc to fly around; their flights however are paid for by their employers and some things just can't be done on Skype or Zoom. I notice that Saudi is barely recruiting foreigners at all at the moment. The degree to which this may change after Ramadan is an interesting question; their economy is currently devastated.

I do believe he is. But see how things function. The sacrificial lamb must be found from within the USA and from outside. This is how work all world powers and all countries.

The tax breaks and incentives to bring back manufacturing from commie china will be coming soon. Most ppl are getting sick and tired of them crapping all over us and the only ones left defending these commies is the fake news channels ( CNN) that ppl are tuning away from in masses.


Yet, in your serb thread, you are gladly teaming up with the Chinks instead of Germany. A hypocrite as well....

Yeah, and that is global.... China needs to be put in its place.

If life after Covid-19 collapses, Serbia will nevertheless survive - that's the idea behind brat Crow's postings in this thread, and thus his posts seem to be very much on topic.

That may or may not be true but so will most of the rest of the world too.
So he has no point bringing it up.

The Government is now forcing places of worship and business to snitch on and track people's personal information.
How does our government justify forcing businesses to keep detailed logs of who their customers are, what time they ate and what they ate ?
"As part of its partial reopening of nonessential institutions, Kansas City, Missouri, is now requiring businesses and churches to maintain lists of people who enter their doors."

I am thinking of going into the fake i.d. business as it will be booming.
My new name will be Johnny Rebelinski.

We Serbs, together with Hungarians, helping to Trump to find solution for worlds key problems, with Putin and Xi.

In the process, we profit. Why deny? I won`t deny that. It's good to profit. We Slavs love money very much. We are big hedonists.

Finally they have found a long haulers possible connection between Covid and POTS.
Researchers are still determining the cause of these extended symptoms, but some COVID-19 "long-haulers" may actually be dealing with a known condition, called postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. This condition, also called POTS, affects involuntary nervous system functions, such as heart rate and blood pressure.

hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/covid19-and-pots-is-there-a-link

In Germany, the excess deaths are 19%. Of that number, 30% are were covid vaccinated. Germany is one of many countries where this uptick has been observed.

Memo to PF bootlickers: The above is not a JR's conspiracy theory. Those dead people are really dead and their covid vaccination status is appropriately documented.

No, it's not Putin's fault.

What is the main message of your post above?? It is very confusing. Are you creating new philosophic trends or sth???

So, 70% of excess deaths were NOT vaccinated, so it's better to be vaccinated, right?

Where's the conspiracy theory here?

I never said that there is a conspiracy.


The conspiracy will be when the "scientists" and their obedient bootlickers will try to explain away excess deaths by denying any connection with the covid vaccines.

The excess deaths were probably the effect of the overall paralysis of health services everywhere and the delay in diagnostics/treatment that it caused. As for vaccines - the numbers that you mentioned indicate their positive rather than negative influence.

That's my reading of the situation too.

Please stay On Topic and quit being a Pussy Baiting ass hole.

I have been reading ever article I can about Long Haulers Syndrome. (LCS)
This is serious stuff as it destroys your life as you once knew it.

medicalxpress.com/news/2022-12-covid-evidence-fatigue-syndrome.html

covid19.onedaymd.com/2022/05/long-hauler-syndrome-symptoms-and.html

The best case of conspiracy is when the gov and the socials suppress dissenting opinions. In a "democracy", no less.
Now comes the justification for this form of soft fascism from the bootlickers...Just give it a moment...

Take it some place else !
This thread is about Long Haulers Covid.

Stop being so bossy. It isn`t your thread.

No, it is not. The thread is about "Life after Covid19" - not just LHC.

Exactly. I have to agree with you. Amasing!