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Ziemowit 12 | 3,109    
13 Jul 2018  #31
Germany being the biggest recipient of the Russian gas in Europe.

This may be so. But I was talking about the share of Russian gas in Poland's total gas imports and the share on Russian gas in Germany's total gas imports and the former is higher than the latter. Poland is much more captive to Russia than Germany as far as gas is concerned. According to Eurostat, the shares of Russian natural gas in the domestic gas consumption in EU countries were in 2015:

Germany: 46%
Poland: 57%
(Estonia, Finland, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia: 100%)
Rich Mazur 5 | 2,237    
13 Jul 2018  #32
So Trump was mocked and hated on by the Brits, our dear allies. Let's see if he will be met with the same level of hostility in Russia, our fearsome "enemy".

BTW, does anyone know where I can send a thank you card to the GRU officers for their help in defeating the real enemy of the United States, the democrat party?

In my wildest dreams would I ever expect to find American patriots among the Russian military intelligence guys. Not to diminish their contribution to MAGA, their task was made easy by the stupidity of those Americans who send to the GRU their id's and passwords in response to a fake bait email. Brilliant. I mean GRU.
Joker - | 801    
14 Jul 2018  #33
Let's see if he will be met with the same level of hostility in Russia, our fearsome "enemy".

With friends like the Brits, who needs enemies!

They shown their true colors again. Lets hope someday, Londionstan`s Mayor Sadiq Kahn visits the USA and see what kind of party we throw for him:)
Rich Mazur 5 | 2,237    
14 Jul 2018  #34
Trump: Hey, Vlad, if you want UK you can have it. No way we are gonna spill blood for those muslim c*** suckers any more.

Putin: Didn't you say once that I am smart and that you like me?
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #35
Of course he was mocked - he could hardly string two sentences together, he literally forgot what he had said a few hours before, and he went out of his way to undermine his host who was taking a huge political risk inviting him in the first place.

I know his press conference was obviously aimed at is US market but ranting and stumbling about fake news - lies - the dishonest media - immigration just made people in Europe wonder how on earth anyone could vote for this guy.
johnny reb 16 | 3,462    
14 Jul 2018  #36
I was talking about the share of Russian gas in Poland's total gas imports

This may be true Ziemo however my question was, "Why is Poland and the rest of the E.U. being charged more then what Germany is being charged for the same gas from Russia ?"

ranting and stumbling about fake news - lies - the dishonest media - immigration

The Brit's obviously got Trump stoned before the news conference. (sarcasm)
Back home here we love him for exposing the fake news and dishonest Liberal media and throwing the law breaking immigrants who entered illegally out of our Country.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,183    
14 Jul 2018  #37
After being hounded by blimps gliders and hundreds of thousands of people protesting against him and the US it is time for America to cut all ties and co-operation with Britain, why stand for it, America does not need Britain at all, leave em to it, focus on other more profitable relationships with friendly nations .
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,327    
14 Jul 2018  #38
Why did he call the interview he gave the SUN later "fake news"???

This paper isn't exactly a lefty liberal treehugger news outlet...quite the contrary....
dolnoslask 5 | 2,183    
14 Jul 2018  #39
Why did he call the interview he gave the SUN later "fake news"???

Its an old corporate trick, If you are going to have a tough meeting it is always good to fire a few shots over the bows (brinkmanship), it sets the scene, it can put your adversaries on the back foot, and indirectly sets out consequences of non compliance without having to be direct in the meeting itself.

Hence he explained it correctly as fake news, he used the media.
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #40
Because he is a liar, a shalliw fool and will say anything to please whoever is standing in front of him at the time.

May should be ashamed of inviting him. I am glad it backfired on her - Once again her terrible judgement is evident
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,327    
14 Jul 2018  #41
Interesting...

I wonder if and when the europeans will bite back, using the same methods against Trump.

But right now they mostly are still shell shocked...
dolnoslask 5 | 2,183    
14 Jul 2018  #42
using the same methods against Trump.

I am no huge Trump fan but he is a very smart guy, don't be fooled when he plays the buffoon from time to time its all in his game plan.

Thing is this is probably the first time international leaders (Who are politicians and have no real material expertise or success behind them) have come across this type of game.

They do not know how to deal with Donalds big boy private equity tactics, don't be fooled he knows all the tricks to get what he wants, he sets the bar high and is then happy to win in the middle ground.

Anyway he seems to have not started any wars or caused any harm, but he has wound a few people up on the international scene that's for sure, maybe that's whats needed at this time.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,327    
14 Jul 2018  #43
Thing is this is probably the first time international leaders ... come across this type of game.

Absolutely! And what a shock!

Anyway he seems to have not started any wars or caused any harm,

Can you imagine a world where Trumps example is replicated by other world leaders? When the whole West goes at each others throats like Trump does? THAT would be the end of it...
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #44
There are plenty of politicians who have more money than Trump - Babis, Berlusconi, Putin etc and many politicians who came from successful business careers. His stupidity is not an act - he is a senile, bumbling fool with the attention span of a small kid.

And he has caused plenty of damage - it will take America many years to regain the prestige and trust that he loses every day.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,183    
14 Jul 2018  #45
America many years to regain the prestige and trust that he loses every day.

You mean like britain with its flawed brexit plan, material flight and soaring murder rates
Miloslaw 8 | 874    
14 Jul 2018  #46
The people who protested about Trumps visit were mainly a left wing minority.
Most Brits,whatever they think of Trump,were disgusted that they treated the president fo the USA which such disrespect.
Trump himself said that the US/UK relationship remains very special.
The idiotic libtard demonstraters won't change that.
One of the main criticisms they charged him with was his alleged racism.But if you look at the crowds in Trafalger Square,most of them were white.

That is not representative of London's population.Why did so many black and asians not feel the need to protest?
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,327    
14 Jul 2018  #47
The people who protested about Trumps visit were mainly a left wing minority.

I doubt that...even at home many Republicans can't stand Trump.

Or you see everybody as "left winger" who isn't a hard core right winger, which in truth is the real minority everywhere.

But if you look at the crowds in Trafalger Square,most of them were white.

I've read there were more people on the streets protesting Trump than greeting and applauding Obama before...quite an achievement! :)
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #48
Rubbish - even the right wingers who pragmatically accepted his visit are appalled by his humiliation of May and worried by the fact that he slurs his words, repeats himself, looks glassy eyed.
Miloslaw 8 | 874    
14 Jul 2018  #49
Many right wingers think May deserved it,as for the slurring of words etc,what has Junker got to do with it?

@Bratwurst boy

The protests were not that big,but yes,more than applauded Obama because most Brits didn't think much of him.
At least Trump is getting the attention of The British.
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #50
She deserves it for inviting him - it would obviously be a disaster. Apart from that however what did she do to upset him?
Miloslaw 8 | 874    
14 Jul 2018  #51
I just think he sees her weakness.
I don't think he dislikes her,he just thinks others could do a better job.
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #52
Right - with a parliamentary majority of 1 and the most idiotic idea in history in her intray. She is weak and performing poorly okay but why is that his business?

She probably thinks there are better people to be president but she has some manners and some dignity.
Rich Mazur 5 | 2,237    
14 Jul 2018  #53
I doubt that...even at home many Republicans can't stand Trump.

Those are not Republicans. They are RINO's. Big difference.

RINO's, liberals and the global bs-ers hate Trump for the same reason Japs hated Truman. He is systematically putting an end to their sick one-world scam.

As far as May, he should have ripped her and the UK apart right there and tell her and Europe that they are now on their own protecting their asses.

There is a rule smart people observe: keep a safe distance from suicidal idiots or they will drag you down to die with them. Europe is such an idiot.
cms neuf - | 592    
14 Jul 2018  #54
But the UK is one of the countries that pays it share to NATO and which loyally supported the US in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq etc - even when the US was in the wrong.

Again - what is his beef with the UK govt ?
Miloslaw 8 | 874    
14 Jul 2018  #55
@Bratwurst Boy

Most of The demonstrators are Corbynystas,supporting a Marxist is extreme left wing in any language.
Yeah,most Brits have pretty centrist political views but as in much of Europe,even in your country,the left are pushing their populations to the right,even the extreme right in some cases
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 9,327    
14 Jul 2018  #56
There is a rule smart people observe: keep a safe distance from suicidal idiots or they will drag you down to die with them.

Totally agree! :)
Miloslaw 8 | 874    
14 Jul 2018  #57
@cms neuf

I think Trump's main beef is with The EU,which he quite rightly hates.
His only problem with The UK is that we are not negotiating hard enough with them.
johnny reb 16 | 3,462    
14 Jul 2018  #58
Again - what is his beef with the UK govt ?

What I have put together is just the huge trade deficit difference between the U.S. and the U.K.
Trump admitted that after spending two days with May that they respect each other much more then before.
The British are an extremely important allie to the United States and Trump knows it.
And don't think May didn't have Trump walking on egg shells by getting a few of her own jabs in.
And like I said in Random Chat, "I was extremely impressed with how civilized the British Press was by taking orderly turns in slamming Trump."

They did their jobs very well.
Lyzko 18 | 5,325    
14 Jul 2018  #59
All world leaders are by nature political opportunists. In the short run especially, Trump is certainly no different. He's excoriating the PM one moment and practically kissing her behind the next.

Only Merkel doesn't seem to engage in such double-dealing, does she. Well after all, she's German.
johnny reb 16 | 3,462    
14 Jul 2018  #60
protesting Trump than greeting and applauding Obama

That is because obama was a Socialist and was no threat to the E.U. and Trump is Constitutionalist.



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