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Why PF has died.


Crow 152 | 9,735
14 May 2021 #91
Why PF has died.

I don`t think so. But I always can give it electroshock therapy. For example, treads like `News from the future`, `Germans were Serbs`, `All Whites were Serbs`, `Poland is Serbian state`, `Vatican works with Islamic league`, `Papal strike on Slavdom and White race`, `Sarmatian story is Slavic story`, `Constantinople as Rome`s apprentice`, `Greedy little fingers of Greeks and Italians`, `Italians, the Black Nazis`, `Islamic Republic of Germany`, `USA, the lost dream`, `Britain in oblivion`, etc.

My opus is enormous.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,641
14 May 2021 #92
This simply means you don't have a right to speak your opinions

If your "opinion" contains the wish for the murder of a people or a group of people then you can get problems, yes.

But its not so simple at all....the judges have to walk a fine line to still guarantee Article 5. For example there was the case of a leftist using a sticker "Soldaten sind Mörder!" (Soldiers are killers)

Someone took that to court because he believed that to be a case of "Volksverhetzung", many agreed but the judges didn't and set said leftist free. Again, many in Germany disagreed and thought the judgement wrong, but so it was.

It has to be more than just an opinion, believe it or not! For example if a Muslim would openly ask for the beheading of a teacher that would fall totally under that paragraph.

But that "hole" is actually quite small and must be clearly met.

What would interest me, which of your opinions you wouldn't dare to utter in Germany, or on a german board? Maybe I can help?
Tacitus 2 | 1,446
14 May 2021 #93
have a right to speak your opinions freely

You don't this right unimpended anywhere. Even the USA has limits. You can't yell "fire" in crowded theater, Trump will likely face charges down the line for what he did on the 6th January and his crownies are facing giant law suits from the company that produced the voting machines.

a hole big enough to drag the Empire State building through

It is in fact quite narrow, you would have to be very specific in order to get a conviction.
Novichok 1 | 5,113
14 May 2021 #94
You two should get the Weasel of the Year awards.
The subject is this:

In Germany, Volksverhetzung ("incitement to hatred") is a punishable offense ...

...and "incitement to hatred" and NOTHING else. Screaming "fire" is NOT the subject.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,641
14 May 2021 #95
Did you now at last get the difference between a Meinung and Volksverhetzung?

I can't explain that possibly more slowly....

Last try:

Me: Rich is a dumb *******! = opinion = allowed!(You would have to accept that)

Me: Rich hates Germany, he needs to die, lets kill him! = incitement to hatred = not allowed! (You could take me to court for that)
Novichok 1 | 5,113
14 May 2021 #96
An evasive weasel in action...
Now, my turn to go slow...so pay attention.

In the US, we criminalize speech that DIRECTLY leads to death or destruction of property.
In the weasel Europe, you, girlie men, criminalized speech that causes hurt feelings. Hence, the word "hatred' in your laws.
FYI, hate and hatred are feelings, Euro-girls. Boohoo, he made me feel bad, give him five...boohoo...
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,641
14 May 2021 #97
An evasive weasel

Heh:) Just an opinion....

In the US, we criminalize speech that DIRECTLY leads to death or destruction of property.

Yeah well...it seems Germany puts people before property....but to each its priorities!

If jewish or polish feelings had been the only thing which gotten hurt because of incitement of hatred Germany would surely be more generous today too.....

But then the US has other problems right now, correct? Something with the Blacks? They got hurt and killed in the US past alot, and now the chicken come home to roost!

It's not anylonger true that you can say what you want, at least compared with what you could say and do before, isn't it....
Tacitus 2 | 1,446
14 May 2021 #98
jewish or polish feelings had been the only thing which gotten hurt because of incitement of hatred Germany would surely be more generous today too

Amen to that.
Novichok 1 | 5,113
14 May 2021 #99
.it seems Germany puts people before property....but to each its priorities!

You put feeeelings ahead of freedom of speech. In the US, the 1st Amendment allows being offensive. You, Euro weasels, don't. And that's the difference.

Since you couldn't weasel out of this one, as a model weasel, you just weaseled into "the Blacks" proving again that you are just a woke and obedient trend follower with that idiotic capital B in "Blacks".

It's not anylonger true that you can say what you want,

Yes, I can offend anyone I want and the police will not even ask me any questions. You can't because your neo-Stasi doesn't like "hate speech" - whatever it is.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,641
14 May 2021 #100
Do you think I really have a problem because I shouldn't say that I want someone killed?

Yes, I can offend anyone I want and the police will not even ask me any questions

Erm...nooooo?

"Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment (and therefore may be restricted) include obscenity, fraud, child pornography, speech integral to illegal conduct, speech that incites imminent lawless action, speech that violates intellectual property law, true threats, and commercial speech such as advertising. Defamation that causes harm to reputation is a tort and also an exception to free speech. ..."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exceptions

Lookie: "speech that incites imminent lawless action"

Like in: I want someone killed! ?

But that one is tough: "Defamation that causes harm to reputation is a tort and also an exception to free speech"

In Germany people do that all the time...
Lazarus 1 | 56
14 May 2021 #101
crying baby.

Aren't those what turn Jim's housemate on? Can you ask him? And how old were the kids in the sick films he was convicted of distributing? Kindergarten age (like the film you sent to people here) or younger?
Novichok 1 | 5,113
14 May 2021 #102
Do you think I really have a problem because I shouldn't say that I want someone killed?

No, weasel. You have a problem because your neo-Stasi would go after anyone who would say that he hates Muslim migrants or loves Hitler - just to test your system if that is his desire.

I can say it here. Just watch me do it: I hate Muslim migrants and love Hitler.

There. Now, you can stick your "freedom of expression" where your cops can't see it.
Ironside 51 | 11,510
14 May 2021 #103
I hate Muslim migrants and love Hitler.

hey I'm not surprised.
Wait for FBI and Biden take away your guns lol!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,641
14 May 2021 #104
I hate Muslim migrants and love Hitler.

Yeah...well....you are dumb! That isn't forbidden....be glad!
Novichok 1 | 5,113
14 May 2021 #105
Yes, it is. In Germany, Volksverhetzung ("incitement to hatred") is a punishable offense ...

Wait for FBI and Biden take away your guns lol!

They will not because hating Muslim migrants and loving Hitler was not on the firearm application.
Besides, I really like Muslim migrants, and especially those who rape women in Europe. It's so much fun to read about all that love-making in Daily Mail.

BTW, you do love them, too, and that is why you invite them.

Hatred - intense dislike or ill will. See? Nothing about killing anybody. Just disliking...

You, Germans, are special and not in a good way.
Strzelec35 34 | 1,259
14 May 2021 #106
novichok you have to read without vodka. the guy or author reminds me of u.
Crow 152 | 9,735
14 May 2021 #107
I know. Forum have to have medical section. I can play role of doctor.
Strzelec35 34 | 1,259
14 May 2021 #108
crow have you read without vodka yet?
Crow 152 | 9,735
14 May 2021 #109
You mean rakija? Yes. But for the record, its boring.
Strzelec35 34 | 1,259
14 May 2021 #110
books.google.com/books/about/Without_Vodka.html?id=S25nQgAACAAJ

facebook.com/withoutvodka/

the way he writes it seems poland was like as if part of russia or so similar at the time.

this is the dude i believe who wrote it or without vodka:
facebook.com/withoutvodka/photos/pb.109394227243322.-2207520000../172759214240156/?type=3&theater
johnny reb 31 | 6,272
14 May 2021 #111
Kindergarten age (like the film you sent to people here) or younger?

No, those children of you rolling around on the floor with in the film were older then kindergarten age.
jon357 69 | 18,363
14 May 2021 #112
And how old were the kids in the sick films he was convicted of distributing?

I wonder if it's still doing child daycare with a registered sex offender on the premises.

That was a low point for PF and drove away at least two regular posters who quite understandably were upset and disgusted.
Novichok 1 | 5,113
14 May 2021 #113
and drove away at least two regular posters

No, they quit. Nobody "drives" away anybody. Don't like subject X? Post on subject Y and you will be surrounded by the faithful if you are good at it.
jon357 69 | 18,363
14 May 2021 #114
My opus is enormous.

Do you think it draws people to PF or deters them from it?
Crnogorac3 2 | 477
14 May 2021 #115
@Novichok

Even the rapeugee-friendly British authorities have decided that enough is enough - at least in this one case:

Mother of God! Priti Patel wins war against boss of OCG - by stripping Albanian gangster of his right to live in Britain (*That's Organised Crime Group as Line of Duty fans know)

By MARK HOOKHAM FOR THE MAIL ON SUNDAY
PUBLISHED: 01:45 BST, 9 May 2021 | UPDATED: 08:06 BST, 9 May 2021

Step aside, Ted Hastings: Priti Patel has won her own war against the boss of an OCG.

In a highly unusual move, the Home Secretary has successfully stripped an Albanian gangster of his right to live in Britain after persuading a court that he is a serious threat to 'the UK's public security and safety'.

Like 'H', the crime boss pursued by Hastings in the BBC drama Line Of Duty, detectives at the National Crime Agency (NCA) will only publicly refer to the criminal as 'B9'.(...)The case has exposed the extraordinary influence of Albanian organised crime.

Chris Farrimond, NCA deputy director of investigations, said: 'We believe this individual was a high-ranking member of a significant organised crime group involved in a range of serious criminality impacting upon the UK.'

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9558231/Priti-Patel-strips-Albanian-gangster-right-stay-UK.html
Novichok 1 | 5,113
15 May 2021 #116
Even the rapeugee-friendly British authorities have decided that enough is enough

I have been trying to come up with a reason why we should no execute Muslim refugees who rape and so far without much success.
johnny reb 31 | 6,272
15 May 2021 #117
I wonder if it's still doing child daycare with a registered sex offender on the premises.

What do you mean "still" when it never happened in the first place.
That was just another lie that you, delph and Harry made up with your sock puppet Lazarus account.

That was a low point for PF and drove away at least two regular posters

Yes, you guys have driven a lot more than two members out of here over the years with your lies.
In fact the low point was when delf ran Jason out of here by calling his wife on Christmas eve and making her cry.
That was the low point of the PF.
Why delf ever let you use him for your lap dog amazed everyone.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,641
15 May 2021 #118
Hmm...where does Germany fall in that?

After WWII and during the occupation the allies (mainly the US) "helped" drafting the new laws, not at least the basic law....at least in the West....in the East the USSR "helped"....

Our basic law doesn't look Napoleonic....
Crow 152 | 9,735
15 May 2021 #119
Do you think it draws people to PF or deters them from it?

Spirited people are attracted. Imbeciles, lovers of false media such as CNN are deterred. So, most of the western Europe and northern America is deterred. People like Trump would always enjoy my posts.
Novichok 1 | 5,113
15 May 2021 #120
the Home Secretary has successfully stripped an Albanian gangster of his right to live in Britain

My question is when and who stripped the Brits of their brains to give an Albanian gangster his right to live in Britain in the first place. And how were the Brit sheep supposed to benefit from his arrival?


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