David Horowitz (too) well alive on PF (....)

islamophobianetwork.com/misinformation-expert/david-horowitz

You'll understant the role of members such as Johnny Reb, Adrian, Levy (who lives in Saudi Arabia as true as I'm Michael Jackson), Ironside, Nothanks and a few others who join forum to "preach their guru's good word". If you read the article, you'll see that the dude's "mission" is to track left wing, atheists and others not "proper" everywhere and to of course to present their "ennemies" as the worst garbage and as a result does NOT hesitate a single second to write the worst BS and worst slender. Now, I understand why they copy-paste so much untruth and the current migrant crisis in Europe is a blessing to them ...

Needless to say since 100% of the nut's garbage is false, it is not so hard to demoslish their crap. Since it is a sect, its members buy whatever (because of course on the site there is "donate now" section) garbage they read without thinking for a 1/2 second. Of course, articles are most VAGUE with no precisions for the good reason that it is nothing but MISinformation. I caught Johnny last night with a slendering article re France, very easy to demolish since 100% fasle for whomever KNOW situation, he wrote me once in public that since from a "goldless country" (?), I had to "get i"" (I don't remember his words exactly (no time to search) but this was it)... Very nice!

As a result, Johnny and Co are here on a crusade against whomever do not correspond to their "ideology". This is a sect.

Strange perception of "democrary", everybody in fora (not only in PF because of course they are paid soldier and are sent to all fronts by their gurus) not entering their sick scheme has to be destroyed, even killed. Unfortnately they are everywhere.

Now, I know the brown scum is well alive in PF.

How can you even "discuss" with people full of hatred and completely brainwashed byu a guru. I knew from the beginning that all of their sources are not serious but until now, I did not know about David Horowitz. A former leftist turning into a extreme-right anti Europe, atheists, homosexuals, Jews, Muslims and in fact most everybody else ....

So these ARE Johhny's and others' "sources"!!! It would be funny if they were no so dangerous and evil.

As to me, I only (try) to respond to their slender and unfunded attacks but I have to admit it is not easy becauce I don't beloing to anything, I'm just a middle-class woman, educated and well travelled (yes, they should try, to travel and meet others ;)), raised in the principles of Freedom, Human Rights, Justice so I'm not trained to deal with the brown scum.

There are a (small) nice bunch of people too but because of the bronw scum, the air is unbreathable so out! I don't want to lower myself to try to deal with them, what for?

Too bad but this forum has turned into a "fascist salon" and no thanks!

Down with the "peste brune"!

Konieć

lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/the-david-horowitz-fascism-and-totalitarianism-center ---------------- More: ;)

Yes, very RELIABLE soources! ....

That is where Johnny Reb and consorts do find their "information" re muslims and re Europe ..... .

"one of America's worst hatemongers" sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=David_Horowitz_%28ex-Marxist%29

Yes, a very objective guy!

InPolska, shouldn't you go and consult a doctor? Or have you stopped taking your tablettes?

Hahah. You have become too invested in the forum. You should already know how Internet message boards operate: the harder you push/more you preach the greater the blowback. Personally I've posted on PolishForum for atleast 6 years. Closer to 10 but I have lost count. It changes based on the current mood/events in Poland > Europe > Western Civ. And I like that.

Topics and posts that were possibly not allowed 5-10 years ago, are allowed today and that is important because forks in the road are being approached not just in Poland but all of Western Civ and especially Europe. As Western media outlets have resorted to censorship IE comment sections eliminated from mainstream news articles, Facebook deliberately censoring conservative topics from trending (google it) just to name a few: my Polish outlets (not just including this one) have opened up. I applaud it.

As a French woman (never knew but right on) you might not sense the Western manipulation occuring on Poland. It has increasingly been for over a decade. To my point before: the harder people are pushed etc. You must remember it is not us trying to change the West but vice versa. And what are we even doing in terms of conservatism compared to Western Allies such as Saudi Arabia or China? I was born in a Poland under foreign control. I will not allow for that to repeat. I will have children in a free Poland.

Would you like to be slendered in public with false info? I suppose you would not.. Why should I not expose their sources? Their sources are not serious and I mean to expose them. What's wrong about that? Are you embarrassed that I introduce David Horowitz and his nazi clique? I'm fed up of continuous attacks based upon UNtruth! Would you like to be attacked and insulted? Johnny and others copy-paste non stoip propaganda notably against French society and now I do understand why it does not reflect reality simply because it comes from David Horowitz known as the MISinformation guru. Since they dare slendering in public, I do let people know about their most doubtful sources?

For you, I should shupt up. Hell, no because I always fight for justice. And because of a most slenderous article by D. Horowitz that Johnny Reb copies-posted, which of course is complete UNTruth, I have sent a copy thereof to concerned official in France and I'm sure they will react...

If you expect me to shut up, you are out of your mind! Continuous public attacks and slendering should be replied to in public.

Like Pol would ask: R U 1 2 ? ;).

PS: do you think it is "normal" to be threatened in public (check his posts of earlier this year) because I come from a "godless" society???? If so, you have a curious idea of democracy.

I cannot spend all the time on the net as I happen to work (I'm not paid to be on the net ;)) but as often as I'll be able to, I"ll denounce fascist tactics of misinformation and hatred.

I know that totalitarians always pretend that their "opponents" are sick so nothing new! ;)

Don't worry, I'm not masochist! ;)

Wow! Calm down, InPolska, calm down!

so does he want to lose weight with a French regime?

These terms seem to have infuriated you the most. But is it 'gold-less' or 'god-less'? There is a big difference here!

Blah Blah Blah ?!

And what exactly is In Polska, Harry, Jon and CO. doing? Are you not on a crusade pushing a leftish multi kulti pro gay agenda? I don't see how this is any different.

Unlike you guys, we aren't the first to resort to name calling - xenophobe, bigot, racist, etc. just to undermine debate.


We would argue that we are the counterbalance to the 'liberal marxist salon'


The 'fascist' things I write are backed up by statistics, reliable sources, and expert testimony.

For example, when I quote Mel Gibson in saying 'Jews start wars!' It's actually not too far fetched:

Here in an interview with a former CIA Agent of 20 years and chief of the Bin Laden unit - Michael Shoyer - youtube.com/watch?v=cLjZoA3GaVE

two quotes: Reporter: 'What is American's plan for Iran' Former CIA: 'Whatever Israel's plan for Iran is!'
'Our relationship with Israel is causing this war' 'The problem is the leaders of the Jewish American community who influence and CORRUPT our Congress to support Israel when we have no interest there'

Reporter: 'You imply that the Israeli lobby in the United States is dragging the US into wars?'
Michael Shoyer: ABSOLUTELY! They're ABSOLUTELY dragging us in'

In the same manner I have explicitly shown that most Poles are against non-white immigration and that most nor even accept gays as neighbors, teachers, child minders, bosses, etc.

Poles do not accept gay marriage


No one needs to copy and paste anything to realize that thanks to your multi kultism France, along with Belgium, has become a cesspool of Islamic terrorism. The over 100 people and their families who were killed in the recent attacks would argue that you're the one spreading disinformation and propaganda on how wonderful it is in France. Look, France is great - there's a lot of pro's and con's as with any country. Personally, I hated Paris when I went there but I loved the southern riviera near Monaco and the Italian border. However, the changing culture and demographics of Paris and other major cities, like Marseilles where Arabic is now the predominant language due to all the Muslims (again, most Arabic speakers are Muslim or come from Muslim countries) have France into a country I would not want to live in - at least not any of the major cities.


Prove to me that Arabic isn't the predominant language of Marseilles.
Prove to me that over 100 people didn't die in the recent terrorist attacks in Paris.
Prove to me that Charlie Hebdo is still alive.
Prove to me that the unemployment rate of Muslims isn't nearly double that of European Frenchman (17% unemployment rate for Muslims as of 2015 vs non-immigrant rate of 9%)

Prove to me that there aren't Sharia 4 France groups.
Prove to me that truck drivers aren't being assaulted by migrants to sneak them into England. (Of course this story is totally make believe - (theguardian.com/world/2016/may/05/belgian-police-car-chase-leads-to-pile-up-on-french-motorway)

Prove to me that the Jungle in Calais never existed.
Prove to me that 'no go zones' don't exist in France - or since you refuse to call them by this name, we'll say 'majority Muslim areas inside French cities/suburbs that operate in a nearly semiautonomous manner and are ripe with crime, violence, unemployment, poverty, terrorism, where even the police is scared to go into'

- gatestoneinstitute.org/5128/france-no-go-zones (In October 2011, a 2,200-page report, "Banlieue de la République" (Suburbs of the Republic) found that Seine-Saint-Denis and other Parisian suburbs are becoming "separate Islamic societies" cut off from the French state and where Islamic Sharia law is rapidly displacing French civil law.) That report was almost 5 years ago - imagine the situation now!

That's right you can't prove that any of things these aren't fact.

Easy. There's more than twice the number of Catholics than Muslims in Marseilles, and that's ignoring other minority groups like Jews, Protestants and Armenians.

How can there be twice as many Catholics when 40% are Muslims ?

That doesn't change the fact that Arabic is the most widely spoken language in Marseilles with French being in second place.

And to think, just 17 years ago in 1999, 80% of Marseilles residents were BORN IN FRANCE.. How quickly mutli kultism and unchecked immigration can ruin a beautiful city.

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Have you got some solid proof of that? It doesn't seem to be backed up by any reputable source.

newobserveronline.com/the-extermination-of-the-white-race-marseille-in-france-will-be-first-majority-muslim-city-in-europe

This 2 year old article's headline says it all - extermination of the white race in marseille - first majority muslim city in europe (spoiler - it already is majority Muslim according to a source I'll point to later in this past)

opensocietyfoundations.org/sites/default/files/a-muslims-marseille-en-20110920.pdf
They talk about importing teachers from Algeria, competition between what's taught in schools vs mosques, says specifically - Education and training levels suggest that the situation is less favourable for Muslims right from the start, and 49 per cent say that they do not feel comfortable in c their neighbourhood. Marseilles is quickly becoming an entire no go zone - 300 AK-47's seized in a single year, Europe's drug shipment point, double the unemployment... yet this group Open Society is pushing for EVEN MORE DIVERSITY... aren't they sick of it yet? If you read this (i.e. section 4 - you'll see that actually Muslims are far less likely to intermingle with people of other religions than non-Muslims). The fact that this whole report divides people into two groups - Muslim and non-Muslim speaks volumes. One 1% of Muslims said that Respect of people of different ethnic groups ranks as one of the top 4 most important values in the country while 14% said 'tolerance for others.' Freedom of speech for Muslims was most important - page 85.

In the section about police in Marseilles (which have to deal with drug wars, ak47s, terrorists, and all sorts of craziness) Regarding the issue of how police forces relate to Marseillais of Muslim background, what I wanted to say, is that Marseille is first and foremost a city of migration. You cannot address the question of Islam in France without first giving some background about why so many people of Muslim culture are in France, and without mentioning the anchor in that history that is immigration.


It's hard to find because the French don't keep statistics on race/ethnicity since it appears they are so careful to offend anyone that they won't even conduct a census and keep statistics on demographics - plsus the results would probably be so shocking to see the changes so they just sweet it under the rug. If you read that open society foundations you will see that Muslims are the 'majority minority' meaning there is far more Muslims than anyone else. For one, nearly 20% of Marseilles is Algerians alone... then add all the people from Libya and the rest of the Maghreb, Turkey, Comoros, Senegal, Angola and all the new migrants that have come from Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, Kosovo, Bangladesh, Iran, Afghanistan, The Gambia, etc. The current estimate is that 40% of Marseilles is Muslim. 10 years ago, 405k out of the 850k residents of Marseilles were Catholic - this was 10 years ago...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Marseille
However, recent research suggests that about one third of the population is Muslim which makes Islam Marseille's largest and most significant minority religion.

It is unquestionable that Muslims are by far the majority in Marseilles. They have turned a beautiful port city with such a rich history in a place that looks like an Algerian slum. It is truly sad - and now groups like open society are pushing for even more migration, more diversity, while the white people with money are moving further and further on the outskirts.

In 2001, a study was conducted amongst Marseilles high school kids and found that 40% came from a Muslim background - this was 15 years ago just imagine what the situation is now.

Even the former mayor of Marseilles in 2001, again 15 years ago, said - "The Marseille of the people, it is not the Marseille from the Maghreb, it is not the Comorian Marseille. The centre was invaded by foreign residents, the true Marseillais are gone" So imagine what the situation is now when these people breed like rats and have 7 kids with 2 wives.

The former minster of the interior and former mayor of Marseilles, Gaston Defferre said about Marseilles mosques: radicals are gaining a foothold in the mosques, they become the managers or the leaders, they proselytise, they spread propaganda. This is dangerous, because the mosques may become intermediaries for those who perpetrate attacks and bombings, and this cannot be tolerated

Nat geo asks whether Marseilles is an example of the European cities of the future - if so that is SCARY. If you don't believe so - look at all the problems with Muslims in the open society report - a pro diversity group but at least they factually report reality (blaming the problem of Muslims' poverty and unemployment on native white Frenchmen, but that's another debate)...

Fail! :-))))) it's "Koniec"

Merged: To Administrators: why have you left hatemonger David Horowitz's mob pollute fora and threaten members?

To whom it may concern!

I (and others) have mentioned several times through direct mails to you that PF have beome "unbreathable" due to the fascist mob but to no avail.

As a result the fora have turned into bashing whole populations and nations by the neo-nazi scum. Not so difficult to figure out that 100% of the trash they non stop post is pure NON sense and UNtruth. Thanks to a thousandth piece of s@@@ posted by Johnny, I have found out who is behind all this: DAVID HOROWITZ, known as the "MIsinformation guru". The guy has quite a reputation ;). Not hard also do demolish his crap since no precise détails for the simple reason that he's a fiction writer and a very bad one. Gurus of his kind have paid soldiers to pollute fora (unfortunately not only PF). Of course, intelligent and knowledgeable people do understand that the crap is nothing more than pure BS but for the low educated and simple minds easy to manipuate, the crap is most dangerous.

David Horowitz has quite a few soldiers here : Johnny Reb (confirmed), Levy (confirmed too; 100% of his messages are virulent anti-Muslim bs but as a cover he claims to live in ... Saudi Arabia (who can believe his crap ? But if so, not hard to contact authorities and let them know about him).

Of course, Johnny, Levy, and a few others have NO connection with Poland and anybody/anything Polish since their jobs are to pollute ALL fora with crap from their MISinformation guru. I'm sure that they are also on fora related to Zimbabwe, Finland, or to cooking and gardening. They are crusaders so everywhere they can pollute with their crap, they can be found.

To whomever call this "freedom"!!! No, this is not FREEDOM! Freedom is not systematic attacks and MISinformation, Freedom is not intimidating, attacking members not based upon their writings but based upon their characteristics. I have been threatened in public by Johnny Reb (I suppose, in Januaray or February, you can find the crap if you want) because since I am French (a crime for fascists "lol") and coming from "a godless country" (although usually they say "muslim" so "godless or muslim", fascists should make up their minds ;) but how would they since NO personal experience, NO knowledge... "I should get it". Jon is constantly attacked because gay (based upon D. Horowitz's crap, homosexuals are among those to be destroyed. Jon, Harry and Delph are constantly attacked because they would be ... Jewish or Muslims from Turkey according to Horowitz's soldiers' s mood of the day ;). IS IT FREEDDOM? What an insult to FREEDOM!!! HATE is not freedom! Should I understand that fascist Americans (I say "fascists" because I used to live in the US and have had contacts with Americans on almost a daily basis for 30 years so I do KNOW that they don't repesent Americans but only a tiny % thereof) define Freedom by hate, misformation, revisionnism, and negationism (I went through some of David Horowitz's "literature" and it is really something ;). Anyway, the guy is sick, he used to be a marxist and has since turned into a fascist of the worst kind who makes fortune with his HATE business thanks to his soldiers polutting all the fora they can find...

These soldiers have no inention to talk about Poland because of course it is not the reason of their presence here. Their purpose is to insult, to attack, to MISinform and they should not be toleranted here.

Do you mean to make PF a 100% neo nazi fora? Sorry but the way these have become, not to hard to come to the conclusion...

Well, I don't want to feed neo-nazi scum any longer so I'm out! I'm in touch with several members and I don't want anything else to do with scum.

To conclude, I hope you will not delete my message and will have the courage to answer in public. It would be nice to do if you are also one of them? ("R U 1 2" as Polonius3 would say)

Thank you so much in advance!

You what? David Horowitz? :-)))) Sorry but this is a bit too much for the first thing to read in the morning. InPolska I know you are not this brainless so I'll assume you are only trolling.

Don't feed the troll...

R U 1 2? ;) I have found out where ALL(if not 99.99%) of the anti Muslim and anti European MISinformation posted non stop by some neo-nazi members comes from. Not hard to get all background info re author when they mention their names ;). Johnny has acknowledged being a follower and I'm 100% sure he is not the only one in PF, Levy= 100% sure.

David Horowitz is known as the MiSinformation guru and as one among the worst hatemongers in America. It figures through his LIES re his targets but anyone whoever is knowledgeable of the subject, knows what to do with his BS.

Since such propaganda is permitted in PF, members should know who is behind.

To conclude, you must be most naive not to understand what their goal is or .. R U 1 2? ;)

If you don't know about David Horowitz, Google ;)

Konieć because I don't want to feed brown sh###!

Adieu!

When the admins will create some balls and ban this troll?

"Since such propaganda is permitted in PF,"
Freedom of speech is key to any democracy, there are things said here that i disagree with but I respect an individuals right to say what they think.

Never heard of David Horowitz until today, so that's something new. I will google him later.

While you are correct with the spelling of 'adieu', you are wrong wth the spelling of 'konieć'.


Neither have I, but contrary to you, I'm not going to google him at all.

You shouldn't bother any more here. She's already started a new thread on that. I wonder how many threads is she allowed to open on exactly the same subject until the mods finally say 'adieu!' to her.

I agree i won't bother, probably some nutter like david ike

Here's a fact for you... in just one month in 2014, the BBC uncovered that Muslims killed more than 5,000 people, again over 5000 KILLED BY MUSLIMS IN JUST ONE MONTH. I don't see how that's vague or inprecise - this narrows down a specific time period and gives a specific number of deaths. This doesn't come from Pamela Gellar or David Horowitz but rather the BBC.

bbc.com/news/world-30080914


You realize that you're the ONLY person referring to David Horowitz in this thread - no one but you has used him as a source here...


It's not propaganda - it's reality. This 'Religion of Peace' is murdering people left and right - in just just a one week period from April 30, 2016 to May 6, 2016 there were 248 people killed, 368 injured, and 6 suicide blasts - all caused by Muslims. Again, in just one month alone - November 2014 - the religion of peace was responsible for over 5000 deaths according to the BBC across 14 countries.


You're the one spreading misinformation and denying reality. Just this morning on the news I heard another 50 died in Baghdad - nothing new there... because it's a country where the predominant religion is the 'religion of peace'In just 2016 alone there were 782 Islamic attacks in 41 countries, in which 7318 people were killed and 9439 injured. plus the 50 that died in Baghdad just recently... We'll be over 10,000 dead thanks to the religion of peace before the end of the month - that's for sure.


Here are some reportings on what you would consider 'misinformation' - spoiler - NONE of these are from David Horowitz, David Icke, Pamela Gellar, etc. they are all from outlets independent of each other... one is even a police report...

Christians subject to abuse and mocked with beheading videos in Germany's refugee camps

Afghan migrants SEXUALLY ASSAULT a 6 year old boy... a 6 year old!!!.

Police report

Swedish mother opens home to migrants, [b]migrants promptly rapes 10 YEAR OLD daughter

Man shouts ALLAH AKHBAR and stabs 4 commuters -

Italian police bust a plot by migrants to massacre Hotel guests

I could go on and on... and these are reports from pretty popular media outlets - express.co, dailycaller, bbc, etc.

It isn't islamaphobia when they really are trying to rape, kill, or convert you...

So how exactly are these sources and reports that I just posted misinformation, lies, and propoganda? These are outlets independent of each other and reporting on stories that happened - one is even a police report...

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Here's more 'misinformation' 'propoganda' and 'lies' from David Horowitz:

Children paraded naked in Pakistan...

RT report -migrants acting like... well migrants - disrespecting Greece by burning the flag...

Christians in a village in Punjab being forced to convert ... or die

Muslim arsonists torch a Jewish bakery:

2 year old Christian.... 2 YEAR OLD, gunned down in Pakistan..

'Religious' police bite woman -

I could go on and on with this 'disinformation' 'propoganda' and 'lies' and David Horowitz sources

Here are some scary statistics - in 2015 alone - 2864 Islamic attacks in 53 countries, in which 27622 people were killed and 26149 injured.
In November 2014 alone 5,000 died...
In the past 24 hours 50 dead in just 1 attack alone...

InPolska - why do you refuse to accept reality? These Muslims are killing, raping, and maiming in record numbers. No other religious group is even close to the scale of atrocities that have been committed by Muslims in the past few years...

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I wonder the same thing.

PF is pretty much garbage now.

Interesting! I thought there was more balance to the forum nowadays, the bully club has it's match and new members are having there say without being hounded out.

As for the David Horowitze thread it is just a piece of Libtard subterfuge to label posters as racists, nazis etc with a view to force the moderators to act and remove posters who do not comply to the old politically correct expat libtard mob rule that once dominated the forum.

I for one know nothing about Horowitz , I am sure many others here don't either.

Courtesy of yours truly delphian domine (self appointed Apollo) and Harry the Righteous (southpaw) mainly.

That is your fault, chasing anyway interesting people from PF and trying to change it into your sandbox with yourselves as a self-appointed Olympian entities.

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That is your fault, chasing anyway interesting people from PF
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Agree, mods should consider giving you another year ban, we all remember how more peaceful the forum was back then.