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Novichok 2 | 5,375
6 May 2021 #31
Rome of the Roman Empire

What is "Roman Empire"? Are we talking 2020 or 1020?
Crow 152 | 9,787
6 May 2021 #32
Most certainly aristocratic families of the Roman Empire even now rule Rome ie Vatican. That`s it. That is behind curtain.

What is "Roman Empire"?

Families of classical antiquity, from time when Rome was united and for sure families that survived turmoils that marked creation of the western Roman empire that led in formation of Catholic Church. They rule Vatican really.
Joker 2 | 2,149
6 May 2021 #33
Are we talking 2020 or 1020?

Just wait until he whips out a map from 1400 and thinks its how its going to be again. With help from sventoad, of course!
Novichok 2 | 5,375
6 May 2021 #34
from time when Rome was united and for sure families that survived turmoils

Crow, I will not get tired.

What are those "families"? They have names so name them.

BTW, I hereby declare a Holy War on shallow, terse, fact-free, Lyzko-style bullsh*it. I am sick of one-sentence, cheap crap, pseudo wisdom pretending to be profound.

For that, I can talk to my cat.
Crow 152 | 9,787
6 May 2021 #35
What are those "families"? They have names so name them.

No need to that. Simple `forensics` of history suggest that there is continuity of interests, ways to preserve and increase power and wealth. So if something was possible, it did happen. Meaning, magnates of the Roman Empire did manage to preserve families in a new environments. Old families survived, live and rule.

So names, original, with lineage to the oldest Roman and Western Roman magnates, if you insist, are, among others: Orsini, Colonna, Habsburg, Hohenstaufen, Welf, Thuringia, Plantaganet, Holland, Ivrea, Nassau, etc.

And, dobri brate, you are naive if you think that some of them, most of them or all of them, don`t rule Vatican.

Now, well, its also possible to overthrown them or replace them or eliminate them. But I doubt. We Serbs have a proverb `Vrana vrani oci ne vadi.` /Raven do not take out eyes of other raven/. So, ways of rule of ultimate rich and powerful aren`t to exterminate each others but to intermarries.

For that, I can talk to my cat.

Don`t talk to cat. You can faster go crazy there then here.
Novichok 2 | 5,375
7 May 2021 #37
don`t rule Vatican.

I thought that the Vatican rules, not is ruled. So which was is it?
Crow 152 | 9,787
7 May 2021 #38
Rich magnates are Vatican.
Novichok 2 | 5,375
7 May 2021 #39
OK. What's the control process?
I can describe how the corrupt pile of crap known as the US government works in detail. Can you do the same about the Vatican, including who, how, when, and why?
Crow 152 | 9,787
7 May 2021 #40
I have only historical forensics and guesses on family names. Who knows a ways how they fo* the world.

Spot this > Black nobility
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_nobility

originating in the baronial class of Rome and in the powerful families who moved to Rome to benefit from a family connection to the Vatican.

Novichok 2 | 5,375
7 May 2021 #41
Can we somehow avoid history lessons here? Unless it's current and ongoing, who gives a rat's ass.
Crow 152 | 9,787
7 May 2021 #42
Neither I am not for long discussion on that. Just wanted to show you I am aware whats going on. But they are far behind our reach and so yes, who gives a rat's ass, as you said.

I only hope there are families that are opposition to those.
Novichok 2 | 5,375
7 May 2021 #43
Today, I don't attend or pray but I am sure that the Church does more good than bad. I will not go into the specifics because those are self-evident when you look at the two extreme age groups.

It's easy to be non-religious in the middle when everything seems just fine.
Crow 152 | 9,787
7 May 2021 #44
They do good for themselves. That is certain and certainly they hope so. For us? By killing 1 mil Serbs in WWII they did service to the Germanics and weakened Slavs. Complete WWII was great genocide on Slavs. So those families maybe face nuclear threat.
OP Strzelec35 35 | 1,199
7 May 2021 #45
maybe they do good as much as zionists also do good.
Crow 152 | 9,787
7 May 2021 #46
Yin and Yang, I hope. Probably have something good, something bad. If they even have concept of good and bad or just simple pursue efficiency by their own standards.
Miloslaw 12 | 3,405
7 May 2021 #47
By killing 1 mil Serbs in WWII

It is all about Serbs with you..... please stop pretending that you care about Poles.... who suffered much more than Serbs in WW2.
Novichok 2 | 5,375
7 May 2021 #48
They do good for themselves.

...and distribute food, teach kids, preach Ten Commandments and console the old and the sick. They oppose gay marriage bs and abortions. Other than that - pure evil.

Occasionally, they burn witches. We had that where I live last week.
OP Strzelec35 35 | 1,199
7 May 2021 #49
how do the zionists or jews not do all that as well?
OP Strzelec35 35 | 1,199
8 May 2021 #50
i dont see much good theyve done if they claim to help feed the poor or hungry but the Vatican is built with gold bricks or what ive been hearing. so is the few they give money to doing more good than bad taking money from donations from those that have it and mostly using it for gain with only a small percentage going to feed people is that more good than bad?
Novichok 2 | 5,375
8 May 2021 #51
is that more good than bad?

If you want to debate that point, debate it. Asking the other guy leading questions is cute but will not fly.

I mentioned the good the Church does.
If you know the bad, lay it out. Yes, I already know about the Church trying to cover for the gay priests who committed felonies, so you can skip that.
Crow 152 | 9,787
8 May 2021 #52
It is all about Serbs with you

You would be surprised how much depend on Serbs. If just Serbs decide to accuse Vatican for genocide during WWII, in international court, its over with the Vatican. It would stop to be religious and spiritual center. Rightfully so.
OP Strzelec35 35 | 1,199
8 May 2021 #53
"I mentioned the good the Church does.
If you know the bad, lay it out. "

i already posted numerous evidence for you like videos other people made about it or articles written you have t even looked at. why do i need to convince you of wnything when you refuse to look wt the evidence right in your face? plus in the western modern world the church is easy to poke fun of and plenty of people in the usa or outside of poland do it already so there must be reasons dont you think?
Crow 152 | 9,787
8 May 2021 #54
If you know the bad, lay it out.

Church`s deeds speak for itself. Rome is past in a post-Covid world. Its clear to me. I don`t know what to say, to be sad or feel victorious. We can`t bring our children back from the graves. We just can`t.
Novichok 2 | 5,375
8 May 2021 #55
Church`s deeds speak for itself.

If their deeds speak, why do you mention it here, day in, day out?
BTW, those deeds had better be current, not from 80 years ago.
johnny reb 31 | 6,376
9 May 2021 #56
I would have to bet that not one single poster in this thread so far attended mass this morning.
Yet they all seem to be authorities on the church with bla bla bla bla.
Crow 152 | 9,787
10 May 2021 #57
If their deeds speak, why do you mention it here, day in, day out?

History repeats itself. Really.

BTW, those deeds had better be current, not from 80 years ago.

Among other things, you sow what is now popular in the region among clero-Catholic Croat Nazi ustashe?

They mock Polish Pope John Paul II by telling that he understood them, beatified Cardinal Stepinac, ustashe vicar.
Joker 2 | 2,149
10 May 2021 #58
or your post is insane.

Are you just figuring this out?

History repeats itself. Really.

Then scabias the future looks just as dim as its past.
Novichok 2 | 5,375
10 May 2021 #59
History repeats itself. Really.

If history repeats itself, why do you?
Crow 152 | 9,787
11 May 2021 #60
Then scabias the future looks just as dim as its past.

No. On the beginning we ruled. We now rule again.

If history repeats itself, why do you?

Good question.


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