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What does the British guy mean guys?


Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
5 Mar 2021 #1
at 8 minutes in when he starts talking the doublespeak saying traditional Polish tribalism and rivalry tho

youtube.com/watch?v=BIo-uB3PBSQ

does he mean traditional Polish culture? traditional polish block culture? traditional Polish tribalism or what exactly is traditional about it?
jon357 69 | 18,457
5 Mar 2021 #2
He means football rivalry.

The guy's a famous soap actor who did some documentaries about gangs.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
5 Mar 2021 #3
no i mean the so called whiz he is talking to the old British guy not the younger bald guy. what does he mean.
jon357 69 | 18,457
5 Mar 2021 #4
It's the same. He means tribal in the sense of football loyalties.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
5 Mar 2021 #5
but what does that have to do with it being a problem? whats the problem with stupid people look at their faces at the stadium taking care of one another?
jon357 69 | 18,457
5 Mar 2021 #6
it beimg a problem

He's talking more about being a phenomenon. It becomes a problem or an issue when people need hospitalising and/or the police get involved, or on another level when there's match day crowds affecting public safety.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
5 Mar 2021 #7
so if police dont get involved no problem then that makes sense then simply they shouldn't be involved. no problem then. any even get them involved in their business or what the undesirables do? will the gene pool cry or need them involved?
jon357 69 | 18,457
5 Mar 2021 #8
so if police dont get involved no problem

I suppose it's when the issues spread outside gangs, or becomes organised crime.
Poloniusz 4 | 402
7 Mar 2021 #9
at 8 minutes in when he starts talking the doublespeak saying traditional Polish tribalism and rivalry

What you are witnessing is the classic display of two British middle class busy bodies regarding others not like them with self-righteous contempt.

And they are getting paid to do to it too so all the better them.

For these two deracinated individuals all that matters in life is their bank balance and their property portfolio (always located in the "right" neighborhoods and villages of course).

the younger bald guy.

He's pretty old actually. Born in 1964. His only real claim to fame is playing a thuggish character in a British soap opera.

I got a laugh at 1:20 seconds into this anti-Polish propaganda piece where he ominously states "I'm not here to sample the culture, I'm off to meet some of Europe's most violent football hooligans."

Well, he is no stranger to violence himself. Back in 2005, one of his now ex-wives assaulted him and busted his lip during a domestic violence incident. Although she was arrested she was released without any charges. Clearly, he's a feminist simp too. Just like all of Britain.

Indeed, the big, bad ass, bald guy is in fact a punching bag for women and then he copes by taking his frustrations out on Poles who are simply enjoying camaraderie and rivalry at a football match.
Miloslaw 12 | 3,328
7 Mar 2021 #10
@Poloniusz
As usual, you show your your complete ignorance.
Yeah sure, Ross Kemp is making a "sensationalist" documentary, but based on truth.
The fact is that Polish Hooliganski are a breeding ground for fascist indoctrination and most of these young Poles are looking for motivation, because they have very little else in their lives.

Polish hooligans are not the worst in Europe, Serbs, Italians and a few others are worse.
But they are bad enough, certainly worse than the British Hooligans they so much admire and try to emulate.
They are a disgrace to Poland.
And trying to defend them makes you a disgrace and a traitor too.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
7 Mar 2021 #11
nah miroslaw you are wrong. they are the worse of the worse amongst the Serbs and Russians. Italians or anyone else just a joke man. look up the Russian polish fighting in euro i think it was 2008 or 212. also, look up the videos on stimmen der kurve its almost all polish Serb and Russian footage so ur wrong they are amongst the three cream of the crop. also look up legia in Barcelona Spain what they did. also there was a fifa report saying the last euro the greatest danger was Poland ve Ukraine match with super police presence and Britain vs Russia which you may know what happened. many argue Poland and russia is worse of the worse but Serbian uktrad are tied to warlords of old Yugoslavia and gangs so those three are the top dawgs. and polish ultras are into international drug and human smuggling they tookmover the vacuum after pruszkow and the mafia was taken down. quick google search for u:

sportowefakty.wp.pl/pilka-nozna/923592/pilkarscy-pseudokibice-zatrzymani-rozprowadzali-narkotyki

tvp.info/52263313/policja-rozbila-zwiazany-z-pseudokibicami-gang-zajmujacy-sie-min-handlem-ludzmi

wat do u guys fink? wat u dink here of this video trailer?

youtu.be/GIN6LeqOhTc
Miloslaw 12 | 3,328
7 Mar 2021 #12
they are amongst the three cream of the cr

So in your demented mentality, Polish hooligans are the best?
They may well be.... not something to be proud of.....and anyway, you hate Poland, but you rate their hooliganski?
What kind of nutcase are you?
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
7 Mar 2021 #13
worldwide international gang doing big things or making power moves:

europol.europa.eu/newsroom/news/poland-and-spain-take-down-international-drug-trafficking-network-associated-krak%C3%B3w-football-hooligans

the so called sharks gang:

youtu.be/V8dCqQdMy2I

the so called sharks.
Poloniusz 4 | 402
7 Mar 2021 #14
As usual, you show your your complete ignorance.

Oh look, as usual a low-brow Brit goes racing to defend the honor of a two-bit British actor who wouldn't give you the time of day.

a "sensationalist" documentary, but based on truth.

noun: sensationalism

1. (especially in journalism) the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement.


young Poles are looking for motivation, they have very little else in their lives.

How do you know?

How do they compare to your notorious British football hooligans?

"A survey commissioned by the FA [found that the] average England football hooligan is aged 25 to 44, has an above average income, is likely to be single and prefers to travel to away games."

theguardian.com/uk/2001/apr/05/football.footballviolence

But seriously, do you really think football clubs, the media, and advertisers care about "young Poles"?

Nope. In fact, there is a good reason why this anti-Polish attack piece was commissioned and it has everything to do with these businesses' (yes, that's what all of them are) bottom line and wanting to enter the Polish market.

And it is the same reason the British clubs were pressured to change the demographics of their teams and fanbases too.

From the same Guardian article above: "...with the aim of attracting more women, families and ethnic minority supporters."

In other words they need more consumers to fill seats, buy tat, and eat junk.

A small but committed homogenous fanbase won't fill their coffers to the brim.

They are a disgrace to Poland.

Yawn.

You are British and every Pole knows that Britain has besmirched and betrayed Poland at every chance it could get.

Clearly, you are still holding a grudge ever since Kościuszko and Pułaski gallantly sent you lot beating a retreat back across the Atlantic with your tails planted firmly between your legs.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
7 Mar 2021 #15
i rally love the quotes or saying som the banners in this vid. this vid brings me back because i was born in silesia or slask and when i was locked up despite being innocent for winning in a fight against luciano i would tell my buddy in the Santa Cruz county jail who ended up being acquitted of rape the taxi driver jon knows who im talking about from Madagascar their sayings like:

"walk amongst those on their knees with your head up"

"believe in something you are not nothing."

youtu.be/k5u9DzQJySc

watch at the end where is twys "ultras nigdy. ie zginie" or ultras will never die. its like hells angels in usa kr surenos mob. no tovt no cops no sanctions no rico acts will kill us.

Another great one:
youtube.com/watch?v=_AusCkbrZSE&t=14s

This guy describes how the jude gang turned into a drug gang:
youtube.com/watch?v=XaCa5c-SLXA

youtube.com/watch?v=KJOFBb_6BfI

apparently there is a new group or gang in krakow trying to take over called wisla nowa huta from the jude gang and cracovia.

[video]youtu.be/4BRmE7qSDas[/video]

apparently they're making a name even in the local jails or prisons.
jon357 69 | 18,457
8 Mar 2021 #16
Yeah sure, Ross Kemp is making a "sensationalist" documentary, but based on truth.

This is true. His documentary series is well thought of.

They are a disgrace to Poland.

The only reason they exist is lack of police resources to deal with them and the fact that them obsessing over football rivalry is the least of several evils, organised crime and extreme politics high on the list.

Odd that someone (especially someone who's never been here and never seen them in action) should try to defend them. Especially as he's someone they'd make mincemeat of in a second.
Miloslaw 12 | 3,328
8 Mar 2021 #17
How do they compare to your notorious British football hooligans?

The British hooligans wouldn't stand a chance............ and in any case, they are a dying breed.

You are British and every Pole knows that Britain has besmirched and betrayed Poland at every chance it could get.

I am British of Polish parents.........and what you just said is not true.

As usual, you are just posting rants based on your complete ignorance and bias.
Novichok 2 | 5,228
8 Mar 2021 #18
It's amazing how one man's rant is another guy's Ph.D. thesis or at least fun to read. His are clearly in the latter category.

His only fault is that he is too polite. I hope that will change soon.
jon357 69 | 18,457
8 Mar 2021 #19
they are a dying breed.

Whatever people say about Thatcher (and some say a lot), she cleaned up football culture to a degree.
amiga500 2 | 992
8 Mar 2021 #20
It had a downside, It made it a socially necessity that toffs like david cameron had to pretend to be football fans.
Poloniusz 4 | 402
8 Mar 2021 #21
she cleaned up football culture to a degree.

But not British culture. That's irredeemable.

"...the prince reignited his war with the press, claiming that racism 'was a large part' of his and Meghan's decision to leave Britain.

He said he was told by an unidentified person at a charity event: 'You need to understand that the UK is very bigoted...'"


dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9338137/Britain-stands-Queen-Tory-MPs-lead-backlash-against-Prince-Harry-Meghan.html

I am British of Polish parents

That would make you a disgrace to Poland but you are still not Polish anyway. Indeed, true Poles don't hypocritically sneer at Polish football fans from afar.

That's what the British do and they excel at it.
Novichok 2 | 5,228
8 Mar 2021 #22
claiming that racism 'was a large part' of his and Meghan's decision to leave Britain.

That's how daily mail tried to salvage that wreck by dangling a more noble cause - racism. The real reason why they left was that "celebrities" make more here and the realization that their shelflife is running out. A monkey with two heads is an attraction only for so long.
Miloslaw 12 | 3,328
8 Mar 2021 #23
That would make you a disgrace to Poland but you are still not Polish anyway

I am at very least more Polish. Than you.

The real reason why they left was that "celebrities" make more here and the realization that their shelflife is running out

Unlike the moron Poloniusz, you make some sense.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
8 Mar 2021 #24
youtu.be/977WqZvB_fw

lol mafia news wtf jon i thought you said the fops have better things to do than worry about them lol mafia news:

youtu.be/2ZmABsHomAY

the guy says in beginning of this "krakow Gangsters" vid:
youtu.be/977WqZvB_fw

"wisla krakow is one of the most brutal and dangerous organize crime groups from the last fee years."

lol they show pershing at 3:28 guys...

15 minutes in they show a picture stupid looking btw of ross kemp of the documentary i posted in the first post.
jon357 69 | 18,457
9 Mar 2021 #26
For a while they were having special flights at least weekly from the U.K. due to EAW. Presumably that's stopped now. They also enlarged the holding cells at Okecie and build bigger ones at Modlin, they were picking so many up at the passport control

lol they show pershing at 3:28 guys...

That dates it...
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
9 Mar 2021 #27
what I want to know is how the hell was that soccer player from Italy not hurt when the hooligan guy threw the knife at him on his head. did he totally miss and hit him not with the sharp part of the blade but the handle or something? imagine if he actually stuck him like in the neck lol.
jon357 69 | 18,457
9 Mar 2021 #28
imagine if he actually stuck him like in the neck lol.

They used to throw darts at people's heads back in the UK. The proper metal type that you don't see in Poland.
OP Strzelec35 34 | 1,268
9 Mar 2021 #29
mieoslaw what is ur opinion here?

youtu.be/QkbF2axz6HQ
Miloslaw 12 | 3,328
9 Mar 2021 #30
@Strzelec35
Link does not work.


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