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American understanding of Britain.


Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
29 Sep 2018 #91
Heres what i know about the UK - all facts

1. Uk didnt honor a mutual defense treaty with poland. Poles however helped the uk and basically won the battle of britain for them since british pilots sucked and didnt know how to get close as possible.

2. Uk refused to assassinate hitler despite having multiple chances - they cinsidered it ungentlemanly... but bombing civilian areas was okay...
3. Uk gave away all it's colonies without a fight. Just simply gave away tons of territories all over the world
4. Uk allowed parallel legal societies in rhe form of sharia courts.
5. Uk has been taking in turd worlders to the detriment of native british and now native europeans
6. Uk cops don't even carry guns. They protect child rapists so as not to appear racist. Just a few weeks ago my cousin sent me a video he shot from his apartment of 4 muslim guys beating up a bike cop. They were kicking his helmet and stomping on him. No cop from a self respecting country whether its us, poland Russia.mexico etc would ever be in such a predicament because theyre not a bunch of pansies and their.government allows them to carry guns

7. The bbc amd british government have long protected pedos amd child groomers
8. The british are a minority in many cities including birmingham and even in their own capital
9. Gay marraige
10. Traitors in the torys and an idiot pm who cant stand up.to the eu
11. Thought crime police division punishing people for expressing their opinions on islam

The uk is totally cucked and its this type of multi kulti far left crap destroying europe. For now poland isnt facing these problems but its not pleasant knowing this garbage is right on my homelands doorstep
Atch 17 | 3,064
3 Oct 2018 #92
british pilots sucked

Facts:

To be proclaimed a Flying Ace you had to have five confirmed victories. 188 RAF pilots achieved that.

The top five Flying Aces of the Battle of Britain are:

Eric Lock
James Lacey
Archie McKellar
Josef Frantisek
Colin Gray

So four Brits and a Czech.

There were four pilots who achieved five victories in the course of one day:

Archie McKellar (British)
Ronald Fairfax Hamlyn (British)
Antoni Głowacki (Polish)
Brian Carbury (New Zealand)

The average age of an RAF pilot was 20 and they were fresh out of training. Głowacki was 30 and an experienced flyer. Brendan Finuncane, an Irish flying ace in the RAF who had 28 confirmed victories was only 21 when he died in 1942 .

Those are facts. Show a bit of respect.

As somebody said on an aviation forum I visited:
"For my part, they were all bloody heros, whether they got 4 or none, just getting into the cockpit and taking off to do what they all had to do is enough for me."

We all know on this forum that you have mental health issues and most of the time should just be ignored but in respect to the memory of people who gave so much and in many cases their lives, you should be corrected when you make foolish and false statements.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
3 Oct 2018 #93
Poles however helped the uk and basically won the battle of britain for them since british pilots sucked

oh do be brief...here's a plan - why not get hold of some actual facts and discuss them? You are just babbling nonsense. You obviously either have a mental health problem that is worsening, or you haven't taken your meds. REad back your posts. They are not the ravings of a sane man.

you are obviously 'butthurt' that Brits invented your country...:D:D
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
3 Oct 2018 #94
oh do be brief...here's a plan - why not get hold of some actual facts and discuss them?

youtu.be/ptijNcDanVw

Ever heard of the british documentary bloody foreigners? Its a doc about the polish pilots in the uk and during battle of britain.

Well in it it states that the british had different and ineffective tactics. The british would never fly close to the luftwaffe, they always shot from far away. The poles on the other hand would fly extremely close amd then fire and were as a result far more effective. The british then ended up adopting these polish tactics.

you are obviously 'butthurt' that Brits invented your country...:D:D

Yup. Then we kicked your asses out. Its a shame that the brits fight a war for a little rock next to argentina yet they give up a dozen countries with billions in natural resource. They didnt even put up a fight at all lol. A few shouts of we want independence and the brits relented. Didnt even bother trying to keep the territory. Maybe the Americans taught them such a lesson that they didnt want to fight again to reassert control over their territory
cms neuf - | 1,261
3 Oct 2018 #95
They fought many colonial wars in the 50s and 60s - in Cyprus kenya malaya ireland etc but what would have been gained by huge armed engagements- for France that was a disaster in Vietnam and Algeria, cost billions by modern standards and victory was never achievable and was extremely unpopular at home

In fact even the huge and well organised US Army has a terrible record in this kind of engagement - in the biggest conflicts - Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, and Afghanistan it not achieve any clear victory. That is because it is very hard to win a war on somebody else's territory against guerilla tactics.

What do they teach you at that elite University of yours?
OP Miloslaw 6 | 3,184
3 Oct 2018 #96
The Irishman Finucane was indeed very impressive.
I can't and won't dispute your facts Atch.
But I have to defend Dirk on one point.
303 squadron's top ace may have been Czech,but as a unit,the Poles of 303 squadron were not only by far the most successful RAF unit in the Battle of Britain,they showed The RAF how to do it....used to vastly inferior aircraft in Poland and France,they learnt to get close to the enemy to ensure a kill.....they proved that to The Brits,they saw how it worked and adopted their methods.
Joker 1 | 1,400
3 Oct 2018 #97
The uk is totally cucked and its this type of multi kulti far left crap destroying europe

Dude, it has become so depressing over there that they now have appointed a "Minister of Loneliness" LOL

Im serious, I cant make this stuff up!

nytimes.com/2018/01/17/world/europe/uk-britain-loneliness.html
Atch 17 | 3,064
4 Oct 2018 #98
the Poles of 303 squadron

Not just 303 Squadron either, all the Polish airmen. People sometimes forget that there were Poles in other RAF squadrons. There is no question about their contribution and the innovative tactics they introduced. That is not in question at all. However to suggest that 'British pilots sucked', as Dirk did, is pure ignorance and vast oversimplification.

The RAF were superb aviators. If they had 'sucked' they would have been unable to use the techniques introduced by the Poles. It's a question of tactics, not skill. This is well worth reading, from the RAF, also has a section on 303 Squadron and other Polish fliers:

rafmuseum.org.uk/research/online-exhibitions/history-of-the-battle-of-britain/introduction-to-the-phases-of-the-battle-of-britain.aspx

The Imperial War Museum also has an excellent article with some great photos:

iwm.org.uk/history/the-polish-pilots-who-flew-in-the-battle-of-britain

As I said yesterday, it cannot however be dismissed that the Polish pilots were in a different league to many of the young, newly trained pilots in the RAF who had never been in combat and whose average age was only 20. According to the Imperial War Museum,

"A total of 145 experienced and battle-hardened Polish airmen fought in the Battle of Britain - 79 airmen in various RAF squadrons, 32 in No. 302 (Polish) Fighter Squadron and 34 in No. 303 (Polish) Fighter Squadron."

Here's another lovely piece focusing on seven of the Battle of Britain pilots including Polish airman Witold Urbanowicz. But take a look at the face of British pilot Brian Lane, only 23 and see the lines of stress already etched into his face.

iwm.org.uk/history/7-pilots-who-flew-in-the-battle-of-britain

Turning for a moment to the First World War, if anybody doesn't already know about it please consider visiting here, the Royal British Legion:

everyoneremembered.org/

They have almost reached the target, just over 23,000 left to be remembered. Wouldn't it be wonderful to reach the target before Armistice Day?
OP Miloslaw 6 | 3,184
4 Oct 2018 #99
Some great stuff in your post and a nice,balanced view.
Regarding WW1,I have just read the biography of Harry Patch,"The last fighting Tommy",very good and highly recommended.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
4 Oct 2018 #100
@Joker

Honestly its pretty unsurprising. France recently passed a law where cat calling or whistling at a woman can result in a huge fine and possible arrest. But naturally its no big deal when third world migrants rape and pillage everyday. They have a minister of gender equality. Thats w europe for ya...

If we hadnt kicked the british out of usa wed probably be in the same boat - parallel legal structures in the form of sharia courts, paki rape squads protected by the police and social workers, cops unable to defend themselves and cant even carry a gun and just now some, not all, will get tazers despite the murder rate in london recently exceeding nyc, citizens wouldnt be able to exercise their 1st or 2nd amendment - no free speech and no guns, and if you do say something about the rape squads or how birmingham is becoming a giant no go, well then expect the thought crime cops to knock on your door, crap about ramadumb plastered on city buses,

America isnt my favorite country, its poland of course, but still thank God we fought for independence. Otherwise wed be just as cucked and things would be even further to tye left. Imagine a us where guns are illegal, mosques are everywhere blasting the call to prayer waking everyone up in the morning, crap about ramadumb is plastered all over buses, cops will not only be unarmed but told they cant chase criminals if they get hurt, a thought crime police department - bye bye 1st amendment. Man thank God we declared independence.

However to suggest that 'British pilots sucked', as Dirk did, is pure ignorance and vast oversimplification.

Well they did. Thats why poles had to take them to dogfighting school and teach them you're supposed to fly as close as possible before you fire. The british pilots were soooo great that they couldnt figure out that the longer the range, the less accurate - especially a machine gun. Rofl
Atch 17 | 3,064
5 Oct 2018 #101
You really aren't the brightest are you. Also completely uneducable so it's a complete waste of time linking you to the vast mine of material which would help to penetrate the thick fog of your ignorance and stupidity.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to reach the target before Armistice Day?

And it's reached! Every man and woman who died serving in the British and Commonweatlth forces in World War One remembered as individuals. Some people have added photos, ancecdotes and biographies for the fallen. It's particularly touching to see the commemorations for the ordinary enlisted men, especially where their families have added something.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
5 Oct 2018 #102
they proved that to The Brits,they saw how it worked and adopted their methods.@ Miloslaw

that's right, they worked together. Whatever Dirky's problem is, a touch of education wouldn't hurt. Maybe some reading ...
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #103
You really aren't the brightest are you

Im bright enough to know that the longer the range, the less accurate a weapon is - especially an automatic such as a machine gun on a plane. Apparently the british pilots didnt know that till the poles explained it to them.
Atch 17 | 3,064
5 Oct 2018 #104
poles had to take them to dogfighting school and teach them

As Roz says, try reading. The Brits were expert dogfighters back in World War One, when they were known as the Royal Flying Corps. One of their best flying aces was shot down by Von Richthofen during - guess what? - a dogfight.

"Now a dogfight is rather an exciting game actually. You'd dive onto the first Hun you come across, you open out your guns - although you may not have had time to get your guns sighted - and no sooner you've got your guns on him, someone else has got their guns on you. Now you can't stand for that because you know it's only a matter of a few rounds and you might get your wing blown off. So you turn off and you try to get him off.And then someone else joins in and helps you. And then you go for someone else. But it's continually turning and twisting and directly and although you're turning and twisting you spot a black cross and you make straight for it. And it's just a question of a mix up until a matter of probably five or ten minutes when you think, 'Well, it's about that we finished now because our ammunition's getting dry."

Those are the recollections of a World War One Royal Flying Corps pilot.

By WWII the British Fighter Command mistakenly considered such tactics obsolete.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #105
The Brits were expert dogfighters back in World War One

Were not talking about ww1....

By WWII the British Fighter Command mistakenly considered such tactics obsolete

Exactly. Thus making british ww2 pilots suck till the poles took em back to school.

As you stated yourself:

it cannot however be dismissed that the Polish pilots were in a different league to many of the young, newly trained pilots in the RAF who had never been in combat

Quite frankly if the government in exile wasnt even in london i doubt the poles wouldve helped. They had no reason to defend an 'ally' that didnt honor a mutual defense treaty
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
5 Oct 2018 #106
Dirk you don't sound well read or educated you just sound like you hate the English. I suggest you read more and take some more meds. it must be hard for you, not having an identity, being a stranger in Poland and an immigrant in 'the states' , I realise that. However you are now getting really really dull. We know that the terribly important Dirky wirky doesn't like the UK...boo hoo, shall we move on?
Atch 17 | 3,064
5 Oct 2018 #107
You're trying to wriggle out of the fact that you are so ignorant and stupid that you thought the Royal Airforce had no knowledge or experience of the tactic of close engagement with the enemy in the air.

Anwyay, as I said you're uneducable, which is your own sad loss but nothing for the rest of us to concern ourselves about.
johnny reb 20 | 4,516
5 Oct 2018 #108
As well as WW2 Atch.
And the Mods wonder why I go off on an English coward loudmouth who has not nor will not ever serve in the military to give back what was given to him when the pudgy little Fem makes ill derogatory condescending remarks about the U.S soldiers when 2500 U.S. soldiers died for his country on D-Day alone and have been station in the E.U. ever since (away from their wives and children) sacrificing and serving to keep his family safe and afford the freedoms he has today.

How do you think I feel about that Atch when I get a suspension for calling him what he is and he doesn't even get as much as a warning for his provoking post less even getting it deleted ?

So Atch, Roz, when the Brits military incompetence gets mocked I know how you feel.
People that have never served or never will give back (sacrifice) for what has been given to them should can it before they pop of in front of a returning soldier that has P.D.S. or a family member who lost a loved one and "educates" these candy asses with a major medical tune up if not worse.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #109
@rozumiemnic

Youre right, nope i dont like cucked countries and people who allow muslims to establish parallel legal systems, dont honor mutual defense treaties, who allow third worlders to replace them in their own capital, wont even let cops defend themselves, have a high mileage thrice divorced 'princess,' protect paki rape squads, buses eith crap about ramadumb, etc. Everytime i go to uk it becomes even more cukturally eneiched and more stupid laws are passed.

That still doesnt change the fact, as shown by the british doc bloody foreigners, that the poles taught the brits how to dogfight effectively seeing as how they coulsnt even figure out range makes a machine gun less accurate

but there you go with the personal attacks... thats rich coming from someone whos also an immigrant living in a country where you dont know the language...

Seeing as theres some 9 million poles in the US and more poles in my city than in warsaw plus i have pl citizenship, speak the language no i dont feel at all alienated and im perfectly happy being a polish american. In fact, the polish part puts me in a rather large unique community in the us while the american part makes me a novelty in poland everytime i hit the clubs or bars. I hope i dont ever lose the american accent when i speak polish.
Atch 17 | 3,064
5 Oct 2018 #110
As well as WW2 Atch.

Well this "Everyone Remembered" is particularly for the fallen of World War One to mark the Centenary this year.

personal attacks.

Not a personal attack. It's a statement of fact. You ARE ignorant, as in lacking in knowledge because you don't read anything of quality and when you DO read you have a short attention span, you speed read and miss important key points. You ARE stupid, as in lacking in intelligence, because you are unable to learn or take in new information, despite the many opportunities open to you to do so. You are also unable to analyse or view things from more than one perspective. Further, you have no intellectual curiosity. You're not educationally sub-normal of course but in relative terms, if you were software you'd be a 'download for free mobile phone app', not the Hubble space telescope.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #111
Exactly what have i written that is untrue of uk? All the things i wrote i.e. sharia courts, may telling cops not to chase thieves, polish pilots schooling british ones on dogfighting, white brits being a minority in their own capital, the existence of a thought crime police force limiting peoples free speech, ramadumb posters on buses, etc are all facts.

Seems to me your the ignorant one for refusing to accept the facts and understand reality, which is that uk is a cucked country that has been thoroughly 'culturally enriched' all the way to Buckingham palace
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
5 Oct 2018 #112
coming from someone whos also an immigrant living in a country where you dont know the language...

i am? i don't? amazing how little you know about my life really.

Dirk sorry but it's not a personal attack, it's the truth as I see it. You are incapable of arguing. You sound aggressive and crazy. When you feel calm, read back your posts. Or ask someone else to. I can assure you that they are not the ravings of a sane or rational man. Next time you feel like ranting about the UK, I suggest you phone your cousins...

oh wait..you cant do that because you use them for free accommodation...for when you come here..

if I cant stand a country, I don't go there. but hey, each to their own.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #113
I will. Its always a good laugh on how easy it is for a person with limited English to get into a british uni and have their taxpayers pay for his education and housing. Its also good fun watching the local ninjas and neckbeards react to a friendly dog.
Rich Mazur 4 | 4,876
5 Oct 2018 #114
...and now you will tell us where he was wrong on the points he raised.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
5 Oct 2018 #115
no you wont, because you are a yellow bellied p.ussy. How dare you insult the allies that helped save your country ? What military have you done? don't tell me, none. what a surprise.

you need at least a certain IELTS score or FCE to get into a British uni. Overseas students don't get their fees paid, far from it, don't be sillier than you have to be.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #116
and now you will tell us where he was wrong on the points he raised.

They cant, because instead of explaining how the UK doesn't have sharia courts, how cops are armed with guns and tasers like just about every other country in the world amd allowed to chase thieves, how theres no posters celebrating ramadumb on buses and public areas, how theres no thought crime police amd people can exercise their free speech without cops knocking on their door, how the new 'princess' isnt a high mileage thrice divorced ho, how ww2 British pilots figured out that range makes a machine gun less accurate and didnt need polish assistance on how to dog fight effectively, etc etc etc

What military have you done? don't tell me, none. what a surprise.

As i mentioned several times before I was in rotc before i dropped out as i didnt want to fight wars for Zionists. And that tiny bit is already more experience than anyone here.

How dare you insult the allies that helped save your country

Hahahhaha right you helped save poland. **** thats funny. British didnt do jack sh1t for Poland. We saved London - you didnt do jack for polamd despite signing a mutual defense treaty which called for ypu to immediately help poland with all available forces. Britain didnt do that. The british leadership refused to even assassinate hitler when they had the chance because they found it ungentlemanly and thats a fact.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
5 Oct 2018 #117
Dirk, let me assure you that cops in the UK are armed with guns and tasers. There do you feel better now? tissue?

No there are no courts that over-rule the law of the land. I don't know why you have your panties in a bunch about it.

and don't insult Princess Meghan of Markle!!

We saved Londo

mate, you didn't do anything, you weren't even a sperm in your father's ball sack back then were you? I certainly wasn't there.

If you want to try to discuss history, you need to drop the 'we'.. it just makes you sound stupid and ignorant. More ignorant that is.

We were told this back at O level...(exam taken at 16)
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #118
No they are not - not all cops only certain units. Not all of them even have tasers let alone pistols.

nbcnews.com/news/world/why-london-won-t-arm-all-police-despite-severe-terror-n737551

That's why they get into situations where theyre on the ground getting stomped by 4 muslims begging and pleading since they have no way to defend themselves and they clearly dont know much about mma or hand to hand combat. Ill gladly send you the video of a uk cop getting stomped begging like a lil b1tch

No there are no courts that over-rule the law of the land.

Sharia courts dont overrule british courts but nonetheless british courts accept sharia court rulings. Theyre basically on an equal footing. Britain is so cucked snd culturally enriched they let muslims establish a parallel legal system based on 7th century islam. Pathetic.

and don't insult Princess Meghan of Markle!!

Or what? **** your high mileage divorcee princess. I could cover a turd in gold and diamonds and itd have more royalty than her. Now she wants to bring a bunch of rainbow kids in to further desecrate any semblance of royalty in Buckingham palace. If shr was atleast attractive id say fine. But shes a hideous stretched out opportunistic mulatto thot.
rozumiemnic 8 | 3,712
5 Oct 2018 #119
OK I am now going to stop responding to Dirk, as it is a disgusting lowlife piece of human garbage.

I bet its folks got kicked out of Poland.

you are the vilest, least educated, piece of human shite on this forum. And that is being kind.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,602
5 Oct 2018 #120
Im talking about polish people, not myself.

And yes polish pilots basically saved London during the battle of britain. They were far more effective than the british pilots thats fot sure.

Poles should've let the luftwaffe annihilate london especially after britain betrayed poland and refused to honor the mutual defense treaty it signed. Yet poles, being honorable people, still helped the uk. Same cant be said for brits of the time.

And yet the brits here wonder why poland trusts the USA to come to its aid more so than any other wester
european country. Weve had enough of your western betrayal

OK I am now going to stop responding to Dirk,

Figured as much, because you cant deny that everything i wrote about uk is fact, and you have no way to prove it isnt.

But ill hold you to that...


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