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Wroclaw man helping police after recent events in Norway


SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,594
25 Jul 2011 #1
Arrested in Wrocław.

Probably we will have more details soon.

The prosecutor's office in Wroclaw denied reports RMF FM that the police and the Internal Security Agency detained the owner of an online business that sells chemicals in the attacks in Norway.

- No one was arrested in this case , nor does it have him facing charges - says "Gazeta Wyborcza" Malgorzata Klaus , Speaker of the Wroclaw District Prosecutor's Office . At a press conference the representatives of the Internal Security Agency explained that the goods sold to the Norwegians were legal . Contacts between the seller of chemicals and the perpetrator of Friday's massacre were commercial in nature only . The owner 's are on as a witness .

Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,148
25 Jul 2011 #2
Soon the usual koonts will arrive saying that it's one more example of Polish mass killing.
Harry
25 Jul 2011 #3
And the usual racist bigots (hi Greg) will start claiming that the man isn't actually Polish.
BartekM 1 | 6
25 Jul 2011 #4
Threads like that should be automatically deleted unless their title is neutral and ubiased.
For all we know, they might have arrested law-abiding supplier of chemicals, who couldn't know how the ingredients would be used.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
25 Jul 2011 #5
So, it is getting international / europeanal.

On Guardian.co.uk

European security sources confirmed they were investigating claims that Breivik and other far-right individuals attended the inaugural meeting of the far-right Knights Templar group in London in 2002. They said there had been increased internet chatter from individuals claiming they belonged to the Knights Templar, an organisation referred to by Breivik in a 1,500-page manifesto published online hours before he began his killing spree.
OP SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,594
25 Jul 2011 #6
Threads like that should be automatically deleted unless their title is neutral and ubiased.

It is very neutral. I just write what the Police have told. I did not add any values or personal thought about it.
BartekM 1 | 6
25 Jul 2011 #7
I just write what the Police have told.

No you did not. You repeated what some tabloid media have said.
Torq
25 Jul 2011 #8
Breivik bought the fertilizer (or whatever it was) online in an officially registered shop.
I wonder how was the seller supposed to know that he's "helping the Norwegian terrorist."

Anyway - the funniest (saddest?) thing about it is, that if the Polish fertilizer merchant
is found guilty of aiding the murder (współudział w zabójstwie) he can be sentenced,
according to Polish law, to 25 years in prison, whilst the mass murderer himself,
according to Norwegian law, can't get more than 21 years.
OP SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,594
25 Jul 2011 #9
We have very few details yet. We will have to wait and see. Maybe he has not done anything criminal at all.

We will see.
Wroclaw 44 | 5,369
25 Jul 2011 #10
No you did not. You repeated what some tabloid media have said.

how are we to discuss it, if szwed doesn't post it.

he did post a valid link.
skysoulmate 13 | 1,276
25 Jul 2011 #11
I'm confused, the link implies no one was arrested? Is it an updated version maybe?
wildrover 98 | 4,438
25 Jul 2011 #12
The Polish guy can only be charged if he knew that the goods were going to be used to kill people...

Supplying fertiliser to a garden business is not any crime....

Probably he will not be charged ...
Torq
25 Jul 2011 #13
he did post a valid link.

Really?

Please tell me what does...

"Zamach w Norwegii. CBŚ dementuje: właściciel hurtowni bez zarzutów."

and

"Centralne Biuro Śledcze zdementowało doniesienia RMF FM o tym, że policja i ABW zatrzymały właściciela
firmy internetowej handlującej chemikaliami w związku z zamachami w Norwegii."

...mean in Polish, and then compare it to the thread title.
OP SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,594
25 Jul 2011 #14
I'm confused, the link implies no one was arrested? Is it an updated version maybe?

They updated it now. Different Police sources have said different things.

I think everybody is confused now. We will have to wait and see.
BartekM 1 | 6
25 Jul 2011 #15
how are we to discuss it, if szwed doesn't post it.

he did post a valid link.

I'm confused, the link implies no one was arrested? Is it an updated version maybe?

Yes, it is.
But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS.
alexw68
25 Jul 2011 #16
Fair point. Can someone stick a question mark on the end?
Torq
25 Jul 2011 #17
nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS.

How typically PF.

Now, let's wait for "Breivik was only a Norwegian pawn in evil Polish fertilizer merchant's plan" thread :D
skysoulmate 13 | 1,276
25 Jul 2011 #18
But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS.

Well, Szwed didn't do anything wrong, he posted a source without any personal views attached to it so we could judge ourselves.. I wish the article stated "for allegedly helping the terrorist..." but that's not Szwed's fault.

Maybe the allegedly can be added to the subject line?
Wroclaw 44 | 5,369
25 Jul 2011 #19
But nice to see on the front page that a Pole knowingly helped a mass murderer, even if that's BS.

there are plenty of negative threads here. it is allowed to post such things.

once the thread is in place it is up to posters to discuss it.

don't expect this policy to change anytime soon.
wildrover 98 | 4,438
25 Jul 2011 #20
There are probably cops all over Europe arresting anyone that might have a connection to this terrible event...

most of them will be released without charge.....
skysoulmate 13 | 1,276
25 Jul 2011 #21
Agree, they're looking into any and all possible links.
Torq
25 Jul 2011 #22
the article says no one was arrested

It doesn't matter - the news will be repeated, distorted and repeated again, and what will stick
will be that the Norwegian terrorist was not acting alone, but in fact he was a part of a large
right-wing terrorist group, with headquarters in Poland where all the supplies for the bombs came
from.

It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World.

Updating the news and denying the Polish connection will be laughed at - it's too late.
Daisy 3 | 1,224
25 Jul 2011 #23
Wildrover: There are probably cops all over Europe arresting anyone that might have a connection to this terrible event...

Who knows, we could be next, maybe he posted on this forum and we all spoke to him. Crow could turn out to be Norwegian and not Serbian after all, such is the internet.
OP SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,594
25 Jul 2011 #24
It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World.

I think that I have never read in any Scandinavian media, that Poland would be an evil country.
Rather the opposite, they often show sympathy with Poland and its history.
Torq
25 Jul 2011 #26
The thread title: Alleged arrest of Polish man for helping the Norweigan terrorist

How about "Alleged arrest of Polish man for allegedly helping the Norwegian terrorist"?

You could also add "for allegedly helping the Norwegian terrorist, by legally selling him
some fertilizer in his officially registered online store
."

Is there a limit to some people's:

a) stupidity
b) hatred of Poland

?

No, I don't think there is.
Harry
25 Jul 2011 #27
It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World.

When are you going to get your head round the fact that the vast majority of people in the world very simply do not give a flying fucck about Poland?
skysoulmate 13 | 1,276
25 Jul 2011 #28
Posted by Torq:

It will once again confirm one of the main leftist dogmas, that Poland is The Source of All Evil in the World.

Updating the news and denying the Polish connection will be laughed at - it's too late.

Torq, with all due respect I beg to differ. PF isn't exactly a major news outlet that people look up when thinking of the latest and most up to date news. Besides, google, yahoo, etc. search functions continuously update themselves so if the subject line is changed there won't be any confusion whatsoever. I bet you there will be people interviewed and maybe even arrested in the UK, US, Czech republic (that's where he tried to buy a gun but failed), and many other countries.
NomadatNet 1 | 457
25 Jul 2011 #29
what will stick will be that the Norwegian terrorist was not acting alone, but in fact he was a part of a large right-wing terrorist group, with headquarters in Poland where all the supplies for the bombs came
from.

Poles, what you are doing is taking responsibility of crime indirectly..

If there is a headquarter of that right wing group, it is London. His group is a London based far-right Knights Templar group who that Norweigan too is a member. (Who knows, there are members of this group on PF too..)
OP SzwedwPolsce 11 | 1,594
25 Jul 2011 #30
Pole, who probably sold the criminal from Norway chemicals do not hear objections - denies Wroclaw prosecutors

The plea of aiding in the murder of the owner of the company that sells chemicals reported RMF FM . The man has to be known to the police . He had contacts with the Scandinavian countries , where it sold chemicals. They were used to manufacture bombs.


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