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Unfulfilled promises by PiS


OP pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Oct 2021 #331
Poland will get the EU corona reconstruction money by mid January..

:):):) On 19 September you said It will be approved within weeks. Nearly 4 weeks have passed....... and nothing?? hahaha

Your latest bet is even more infantile. Of course, mid January is quite possible, PiS will have withdrawn from their paranoid judiciary deform by the end of the year and the EU will release the funds.

I can make such bets in the same way: hey, ami, wanna bet that it will be cold during the coming winter? hahahahaha
gumishu 13 | 6,140
14 Oct 2021 #332
PiS nomenklatura

gazeta.pl has estimated that around 900 positions (September 2021) in state owned companies are held by 'PiS cronies' -

in contrast money.pl (and Dziennik Gazete Prawna) wrote in 2012 that more than 8000 thousands people were to thank their position in similar roles due to contacts with people in PO-PSL coalition
jon357 74 | 22,054
14 Oct 2021 #333
PiS cronies

Don't forget the tsunami of honoraria that PiS cronies get, and the widespread cronyism within the local PiSuar branches.

Their predecessors were far from perfect, however they weren't nearly as brazen, especially at local government level.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Oct 2021 #334
wrote in 2012 that

Proofs, please. :):) Coz we don`t believe you. :):)
gumishu 13 | 6,140
14 Oct 2021 #335
Proofs, please. :):)

money.pl/gospodarka/wiadomosci/artykul/ponad;8;tysiecy;stolkow;dla;ludzi;po;i;psl,21,0,1133845.html

gazetaprawna.pl/wiadomosci/artykuly/636633,ponad-8-tysiecy-stolkow-dla-ludzi-po-i-psl.html
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Oct 2021 #336
Thank you for the "proofs." The problem is the article is misleading and it is obvious you read it very superficially - the number 8000 wasn`t proven by the journalist - it is a number provided by the opposition at the time, namely PiS, which have been known as pathological liars for ages. The whole article was based on what PIS had made up about Tusk`s government.

It is sad you repeat their lies here. Do you want to join the ranks of pathological liars???
amiga500 4 | 1,540
15 Oct 2021 #337
19 September you said

I am glad you are taking diary of notes of everything i post on this forum. Must be a lot of work. I am really living in your head rent free. :) But I understand why you are so aggressive here, If you shared your political and social views in your PiS voting village, the parents would give you a good trashing for trying to indoctrinate their children, therefore you must be meek as a lamb in the classroom and town square and are full of impotent frustration. You then take it out on the PiS supporters here. It is sad but if it helps you from having a nervous breakdown so be it :) We are here to help your neuroses.

EU will release the funds...cold during the coming winter?

You really have made an infantile mistake, One minute you say that getting the eu money easy and like winter being cold but in the previous breath you say PiS is leading us to polexit and russia. Baboon speak with forked tongue! Is that the incompetent way you teach your students rhetoric and debate? The parents should feather and tar you out of town i think and get a intellectual as a teacher instead of the village idiot they have now.

Your latest bet

You previously did not want to bet upon your political views, let me educate a state employed teacher who has to grow vegetables to feed his family in the ways of civilised and refined men. A bet between gentlemen is a matter of honour and conviction, and is not to be debated or ridiculed by those who lack the conviction and will to put their money where their mouth is. Speak when you are spoken to peasant.
PolAmKrakow 2 | 972
15 Oct 2021 #338
@amiga500
PiS doesn't have the ball$ to take Poland out of the EU, I think even you would agree with that. There wouldn't be demonstrations, there would be riots, and people would leave Poland by the millions for other EU nations.

As for the wager.....Betting on a date for EU funds to be released doesn't make much sense. Betting on funds to be released only after a certain judicial arm in Poland is disbanded is what it will take to get the money. So come up with something along those lines.

EU wont be backing down on the money this time. They have been pushed into a corner, in part by their own actions and inaction previously. Holding on to money is really the best weapon they have. Make Poland change or make PiS hurt the economy more and force political change in elections because of the money. Always follow the money.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
15 Oct 2021 #339
We are here to help your neuroses.

I see you desire to play doctor with me... Bad boy..... hahaha

I am glad you are taking diary of notes

Actually, I don`t. I just remembered where and when you were so resolute about those funds coz you sounded so amusingly naive.... :):):)
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
15 Oct 2021 #340
Ami, in the morning I was busy getting ready for work so I didn`t even have time to read your post to the end.

Now I can do it.

getting the eu money easy but PiS is leading us to polexit

Doc, I see you are resorting to your fav way of discussion - making up false stories about me. Hey, do you remember how you were once suspended for it?? hahaha that was funny.

Back to the topic: I wonder why you combine those two matters into one logical chain. They do not match. Are you really so logically impaired or are you trying to make a mess on purpose, hoping to mislead some inexperienced readers??

You then take it out on the PiS supporters here.

I hope you won`t give up the attendance here because of my brutal anti PiS rhetoric. I thought you were a tougher guy. Doctors are supposed to be such. :):)
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
26 Oct 2021 #341
our wise premier.

Not really. He is mental, in fact. A few days ago he suggested in an interview that the EU`s steps against PiS government remind of WW3.

Russian media which extensively comment on it enjoy the fact that Poland is steering away from Europe.
Fekk PiS, those ignominuous traitors! They are like Targowica in 18th century which greatly contributed to the Russian partitions of Poland.
Strzelec35 34 | 904
26 Oct 2021 #342
"There wouldn't be demonstrations, there would be riots, and people would leave Poland by the millions for other EU nations."

no there wouldnt be. and they couldnt leave after it happened or theyd be undocuented migrants and like me when caught by any traffic violation or even jut a border check be right away deported back to poland.

" let me educate a state employed teacher who has to grow vegetables to feed his family in the ways of civilised and refined men."

lol what a loser.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
20 Jan 2022 #343
Despite election promises to stick to financial modesty and constraint, PiS has been doing their best to waste as much public money as possible., This article describes how PiS creates tens of unnessecary institutions and mans them with buddy rightists who earn huge salaries.

newsweek.pl/polska/polityka/instytuty-prawa-i-sprawiedliwosci/qdp5k8x
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Jul 2022 #344
United Right, sometimes called PiS for short, promised to be close to common people. However, they regularly forget about it and show amaSSing arrogance.

Example one:
A few weeks ago one of their politicians went to the post office in a small town and there discussed politics with one female worker who expressed antiPiS views. After leaving the premises he immediately called the woman`s superior and demanded her dismissal from the job. The woman was summoned for explanation but luckily she wasn`t fired in the end.
gumishu 13 | 6,140
14 Jul 2022 #345
@pawian

the upper echelon of PiS had the minister (a vice-minister IIRC) fired from his position - free media have a role indeed in every democracy

if you listened to (or read) Ziemkiewicz (an independent journalist) you would know he likens PiS to the pre-war Sanacja - and he points out that it has similar characteristics (however you would never make Ziemkiewicz vote for the total opposition)
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Jul 2022 #346
fired from his position

No. When the scandal gained momentum, PiS realised they needed to pacify angry reactions and made him resign.

Example two.

One local politician bragged of being the elite from PiS who plays golf, similarly to Tiger Woods or Donald Trump, while commoners play plebeian football.

I am the elite!



gumishu 13 | 6,140
14 Jul 2022 #347
One local politician bragged of being the elite from PiS who plays golf,

we have covered this today - the councillor is suspended from the party and we will see what follows

unless you are such an idiot that you will repeat the same things all over again because of your blind hate

and made him resign.

what's the actual difference? -the effect is the man is no longer a ministerial clerk, so?
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
14 Jul 2022 #348
the councillor is suspended from the party

Temporarily. But she wasn`t suspended from her multiple positions she is holding in state owned enterprises. She is sucking the state like a leech, similarly to thousands of United Right members.

all over again

Darling, we mentioned it in another thread but this thread is more suitable - here we are collecting cases of PiS going back on their words. Now we are focusing on their arrogance.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
15 Jul 2022 #349
PiS arrogance

Prices of heating are going up. One PiS minister, pressed at the press conference, declared that Poles should collect dry wood in forests.


  • Poland.. Third term of PiS. The richest man in the village.

  • Some people are going too far with that dry wood

  • When you see your neighbour has collected more dry wood
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
15 Jul 2022 #350
Collect dry wood! PiS advises.


  • When you went to the forest for dry wood and became a developer

  • I adapt cars for dry wood. All makes and models. Contact me at....

  • Winter will be harsh. How do you know? Poles started collecting dry wood in May.

  • Why aren`t you finishing the Arc? Poles have pinched all my dry wood.
Przelotnyptak1 - | 293
15 Jul 2022 #351
Prices of heating are going up. One PiS minister, pressed at the press conference, declared that Poles should collect dry wood in forests.

Paw, are you sure the party you support would do better? I am grateful that Poland is not over-run by the hordes of camel jockeys and not one Bambo residing in the branches of your orchard. You are free to express your gratitude to PiS. Ukrainians, you say? I see my brothers that look the same as me with the same DNA, so I am ok with it.

Most of them would rather be back in their own country.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
15 Jul 2022 #352
Ukrainians, you say?

No, I didn`t mention them in this thread.
????
Alien 20 | 4,978
16 Jul 2022 #353
@pawian
Dry wood is not a bad idea, but I prefere Dry Gin with Tonic. It is much more effective.
Cojestdocholery 2 | 1,191
16 Jul 2022 #354
Dry wood is not a bad idea

Some German politician pick on that idea!
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
16 Jul 2022 #355
Some German politician

It is a lie, as usual. If you prove it, I will withdraw my words.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
17 Jul 2022 #356
PiS arrogance continued

One local politician bragged of being the elite from PiS who plays golf,

Gumi, I told you she had sinned many times before. Today she published her apology to an opposition politician - she was forced to do it by a court ruling.

" I, Małgorzata Jacyna-Witt, apologize to Stanisław Gawłowski for violating his personal rights, good name and dignity with the entry of December 13, 2018, comparing him to thieves, murderers, rapists" - reads the full content of the apology that PiS councilor Małgorzata Jacyna-Witt posted on Twitter .
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
18 Jul 2022 #357
PiS arrogance cont

President Duda told Poles who complain about the inflation to clench their teeth and be optimistic . At the same time, the expenses of his Chancellory are the highest of all presidents since Poland regained independence in 1989.

Nice. Thank you, Mr Pres.

Mr Duda is giving example to Poles how to clench teeth.



Anthonylas28
18 Jul 2022 #358
That kind of makes sense doesn't it though, given that inflation makes everything more expensive, it makes sense that the government expenses are now higher than they have ever been. To make this kind of comparison is disingenuous.

Inflation is not PiS's fault, it the fault of your darling EU.
OP pawian 223 | 24,389
18 Jul 2022 #359
government expenses are now higher

No, we are talking about the span of several years, since 2015.
If you don`t speak Polish, translate it in Chrome
kronika24.pl/prezydentura-andrzeja-dudy-najdrozsza-w-historii-wydano-prawie-900-mln-zlotych/

The Chancellery of the President during the 5 years of Andrzej Duda's term of office spent as much as PLN 880 million! These expenses are the highest ever.

Inflation is not PiS's fault

Don`t be silly. We already said and proved it is. Stop lying, then. :):)
Alien 20 | 4,978
18 Jul 2022 #360
@pawian
As I can see, Mr. Duda must clench teeth from the cold (water).


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