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Thousands of Polish women attend Czarny Piątek rally in Warsaw


pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #541
so your post is not too be believed

But why are you acting as such an imbecile? You can easily check the info it was cleaned within minutes.

Listen to the interview of the PSL Senator on PR24, saying they are very unhappy with PO

hahahaha You are so disarmingly naive. You want to believe it so hard that you really do. But, please, show some reason at last - that is politics - don`t take everything you hear for granted, are you a little child? Did you just graduate from a kindergarten ? hahahaha

Ever heard of the saying one rotten apple spoils the whole barrel?

So you want to spoil us with your rotten logic. No, I refuse to be spoiled and I will still teach you the proper logic coz you certainly need it. HA!
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
30 Oct 2020 #542
With all due respect amiga500 no one has any fear of anyone in power any more. They blew it. This clown show has shown the world just how backward thinking they are. Pissed off a majority of Poland? I dont think so, the majority is in the streets. Reality is what people see, and the world see's Poland's politics as being draconian and now it is only a matter of time before these donkeys are nothing more than a stain on history.
amiga500 2 | 223
30 Oct 2020 #543
I dont think so, the majority is in the streets.

Estimated 400k protested on Wed vs 40 million population of Poland. How is that a majority PolamKrakow? I don't deny that majority is against further restriction of abortion law.
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #544
40 million population of Poland.

Prove it! Ha!
hahaha
PS. Also, don`t forget about emigrants.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
30 Oct 2020 #545
PiS will now lock people up starting today for demonstrations? I think they will run out of jail cells pretty quickly. The young are no longer afraid, and every daughter who is locked up has older parents who will support their children before they support PiS. Another brilliant strategy.

This was such a massive miscalculation on PiS part they even pi$$ed off their supporters. This is like Trump saying he now wants to raise taxes on the rich. It would never happen in a political world of educated operators. These people are simply too stupid to be in office.
Cargo pants 2 | 865
30 Oct 2020 #546
During my noon walk


  • military police guarding church in old town
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #547
military police guarding church in old town

Yes, and this is happening in Poland where the Church`s position used to be the strongest of all for centuries. Kings and princes were abolished, partitioners and invaders were defeated, Polish dictators, white or red, were removed too. While the Church lasted and lasted. Until today - but they have brought it on themselves by themselves.

These people are simply too stupid to be in office.

Yes. But it is only our own fault that we chose them to rule the country - no foreign power imposed them on us. Pure Poles did it to Poland and other Poles. Those rightards in power are a perfect reflection of the state of mind and soul of so many ordinary Poles nowadays.

I hope those youth who protest today will realise that if they want to avoid such situations as PiS has just provoked, they need to go to elections to counterbalance the impact of millions of imbecile voters.
Ironside 50 | 10,939
30 Oct 2020 #548
themselves by themselves.

Oh shut it Soviet that gloating. That has nothing to do with you soviets. It disgust me as well as your leftie BS.

The only thing is true people are generally fed up with gov and their way. Nothing new. It hard to say that PiS is a right wing, maybe they are right wing on the left side.

People like you are worst that rabble, lies gloating and glee, not responsibility for the sate not civil values, well karma is a ***** and I'm sure you will be on the receiving end.

By the way, Trybunal K said the same what it say in 1997 nothing new. So dude you famous defender of the Constitution, are you against It now that is doesn't fit your political shot term agenda? Rather weak they are, your principles.

millions of imbecile voters.

Look you big supporter of the democracy, imbecilies or not that is the way it works. What make you think you are any better eh? Hubris?
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #549
The only thing is true people are generally fed up with gov and their way.

As usual, your diagnosis of the situation here is erroneous due to the fact you are an expat who practically lost any real touch with Poland.

Look you big supporter of the democracy, imbecilies or not that is the way it works.

Yes, it does, but why does it work so in Poland and doesn`t in Norway or Switzerland?? I also want to live in Poland which is like those two countries - without semi dictators who dream of the rule of strong hand and imbeciles who vote them into office. .
mafketis 24 | 9,385
30 Oct 2020 #550
A significant majority of PiS voters do not want a change from the 1993 status quo regarding abortion

So major misstep by JK who badly misjudged the mood in the country (even among his own supporters).

wiadomosci.wp.pl/aborcja-w-polsce-najnowszy-sondaz-ibris-dla-wp-wyborcy-pis-zaskakuja-6570197805800224a
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
30 Oct 2020 #551
Where is the Pope on all this? Where is Rome? Silent. They can not even condone of this barbarism.

If Women can not be trusted to make sound and educated decisions concerning a fetus who is not going to have a normal life, or a short life, or a life of pain, how can you men trust them to raise the healthy children they give birth to for you?

Polish women are some of the most intelligent and educated women in the world, and that is what really scares PiS. The PiS enemy is not the crazy left wing feminist, it is the educated person, men and women alike, who are all educating their young the same way. The Doo Doo bird is extinct, soon PiS will join it because they couldn't control themselves and then the people exploded on them.
OP jon357 66 | 17,068
30 Oct 2020 #552
Where is the Pope on all this?

In a difficult and delicate position.
Crow 146 | 9,122
30 Oct 2020 #553
PiS will now lock people up starting today for demonstrations?

So PiS is now brain dead. Pollitical oblivion.

but they have brought it on themselves by themselves.

Not by themselves. By the Vatican. Let us point to the source of problem. Its not Catholicism. Or Christianity or Christ. Never believe in that. Vatican is a problem.

But it is only our own fault that we chose them to rule the country

But you didn't know they are corrupted by the Vatican who always tend to weaken Poland and keep it backward.
Atch 17 | 3,427
30 Oct 2020 #554
Where is the Pope on all this? Where is Rome? Silent.

Pope Francis made some vague remarks the other day which indicate support for the ruling.

I ask God to place in every person's heart respect for the life of our brothers and sisters, especially for the most fragile and defenseless; and to strengthen those who embrace them and care for them, even when that requires heroic love.

But you'd expect that, I mean he is the Head of the Catholic Church.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
30 Oct 2020 #555
@Atch
Hardly an endorsement. He could have been talking about Doctors and Nurses caring for COVID patients. Anyone using that to further their agenda is a drowning man reaching for straws.
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #556
Everyday there is a new dejavu. Jane Fonda, who supported Solidarity against communists during 1989 elections, issued a statement supporting Polish women and their fight against the rightard regime.

Wow, what a wonderful return to old times when we were united and finally won the long march against wicked tyrants. This march will also have a happy end.
Cargo pants 2 | 865
30 Oct 2020 #557
TBH I would decide 80% option should be given to women.15% to men also and 5% to state to decide about abortion.Again my opinion dont matter.
moondoggie - | 28
30 Oct 2020 #558
it does seems Pis overreached, trying to divert public anger about Covid-19 economic problems with a culture war wedge issue, time to backtrack, quick!
Poloniusz 4 | 603
30 Oct 2020 #559
I would decide 80% option should be given to women

That would be unconstitutional.

The Constitution of the Republic of Poland

Article 32

- Equality before the law of all persons and the right to equal treatment by public authorities.

- No discrimination in political, social or economic life for any reason whatsoever.

Article 33

- Equal rights of men and women in family, political, social and economic life.


If anything needs to be divided as far as having a say in an abortion then it should be 50% to the father and 50% to the mother. After all, the father would be 100% responsible if she decided to give birth.
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #560
then it should be 50% to the father and 50% to the mother.

Of course not. Most women with disabled kids have to cope on their own coz over half of kids` fathers leave their family. So, it should be 75% for women and 25% for men.
Poloniusz 4 | 603
30 Oct 2020 #561
Of course not.

Indeed. After all, unrepentant communists like you don't believe in and are totally against the current Polish constitution.

You need to realize that your cuckold "all women are raped, all children will be born disabled" pro-abortion argument is baseless.

In the rare cases where a single mother with a disabled child can't get support from the father then that is a matter for the courts. In the meantime she should seek all available assistance from the state and charities.

The abortion argument always comes down to this: an irresponsible woman with regrets or filled with spite should not be allowed take it out on her unborn child and certainly not at public expense.
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #562
unrepentant communists

But we have already established you are a Nazi/Commie supporter when you insulted Polish female freedom fighters from Warsaw Rising in another thread. Youi called them what - can you remind us? old mad hags or something? Doing so, yYou perfectly tuned into Nazi.Commie black propaganda about Poles and their aspirations for freedom.

So, Nazi/Commie fan, can you quite pretending you bother so much about Poland, Poles and Polesses?]

can't get support from the father then that is a matter for the courts

hahahaha After PiS` defoprm of courts, the proceedings last years, not months.

In the meantime she should seek all available assistance from the state and charities.

buahahaha Will the state or charity send a free male to assists the bereft mother in daily care???

All in all, apart from being a Nazi.Commie supporter, you are also an imbecile who knows nothing about Poland under PiS. .
Poloniusz 4 | 603
30 Oct 2020 #563
^ Digression. Ad hom. Clown noises.

Typical leftist evasion tactics when your arguments are shown once again to ring hollow!
OP jon357 66 | 17,068
30 Oct 2020 #564
Polish female freedom fighters from Warsaw Rising ... old mad hags

That's very sad. It sums up the sort of hysterical and negative aggression that has ked to the current protests.

100,000 people out in Warsaw tonight.
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #565
Clown noises.

Even clowns are able to speak the words of truth. I am like Stańczyk now and I officially denounce you as a Nazi/Commie sidekick in creating sick propaganda about Poland and her most patriotic praiseworthy people. And I will always do it whenever you try to smuggle it into this place. Do you understand, you Nazi/Commie svoloch??? Ha!



Poloniusz 4 | 603
30 Oct 2020 #566
sick propaganda about Poland and her most precious people.

My, my, my.

A pro-abortionist talking about Poland's "most precious people."

Now that's a joke which isn't funny.

Here, this fell out of your purse:


pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #567
talking about Poland's "most precious people."

Yes, the ones you insulted nastily. Don`t you remember where? Nazi/Commie supporter, read what the poet said long ago about such scum as you:

Do not feel safe. The poet remembers.
You can kill one, but another is born.
The words are written down, the deed, the date.

And you'd have done better with a winter dawn,
A rope, and a branch bowed beneath your weight.

Poloniusz 4 | 603
30 Oct 2020 #568
You can kill one, but another is born.

In your neo-commie nightmare world a Polish child will be murdered in the womb at the mother's whim and public expense and then replaced by non-integrating, welfare dependent, third world economic migrants with five of their own children in tow and more on the way once they get settled in.

A rope, and a branch bowed beneath your weight.

I pointed out to you before that although you are pro-abortion it says everything about how selfish and hypocritical you are for not being pro-euthanasia.
OP jon357 66 | 17,068
30 Oct 2020 #569
He things that women have terminations as a 'whim'...

And this from a virginal incel.

No wonder women have had enough with some of the rubbish they hear. At least he has zero influence over Polish politics.
pawian 176 | 14,299
30 Oct 2020 #570
mother's

Yes, women must have a choice - it is their basic right. Especially that most fathers run away when they learn their kid is seriously disabled and unable to function on their own. I mentioned it before but you comfortably prefered to overlook it, trying to shift the whole burden on women again. No more! . I have been working for a charity which helps such families - most of them are single parent - Guess who takes care of those kids? Out of 20 we help, only two have .a loyal father/husband. Nice. The rest have vanished into the thin air.

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