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weg05
11 Apr 2017 #121
T-50 doesn't exist now and probably never will.
Crow 154 | 8,996
11 Apr 2017 #122
NATO welcomed in Montenegro

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Flag of NATO purified by fire

source> b92/eng/news/region.php?yyyy=2017&mm=04&dd=10&nav_id=100985
johnny reb 48 | 7,102
11 Apr 2017 #123
T-50 doesn't exist now and probably never will.

How sure are you of that ?

Russia's top fighter jet is the Sukho T-50.
(Google PAK-FA)

The T-50 prototype first flew on 29 January 2010 and deliveries of production aircraft to the Russian Air Force are to begin in 2018.
When you google it (PAK-FA) you will see lots of pictures and video's of it flying.
It is still no match for the United States Stealth F-22 Raptor.
Crow 154 | 8,996
11 Apr 2017 #124
United States Stealth

very sh** program. Complete US Stealth. Simple money stealing from tax payers. All world knows that. Embarrassment.

F-22 Raptor

but its quite erratic. Erotic maybe
Crow 154 | 8,996
11 Apr 2017 #125
johhny rebe, I googled. People. Be serious what you speak publicly on forums. Doze of objectivity is necessary. I telling you, I googled on US Stealth. Its a joke. Fatal joke. Unreal humiliation.
johnny reb 48 | 7,102
11 Apr 2017 #126
I telling you, I googled on US Stealth.

Try googling F-2 Raptor
It was designed to out maneuver anything Russia could throw at it.
In fact it is so stealth that it doesn't even show up on radar bigger then a bumble bee.
Rumor is that that they are equipped with lazars that can lock on and melt Russian fighter jets at mock speeds from 30 miles away.
I think you may just be a bit jealous Crow that the U.S. has such weapons.
The U.S.A. has a couple of them stationed at LASK airfield in Poland if they let you get close enough to look at them.

Incredible they are. Nothing else in the world compares to them.
And those are the only ones that they are telling you about.
You can bet that they have more that they are not telling the public about.
Crow 154 | 8,996
11 Apr 2017 #127
What Russia? Are you truly that insane and lost?? US Stealth program wasn`t able to pass test even in Serbia and I presume that Russians have much better systems

Spot this >

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Canopy of F-117, serial number 82-0806; Belgrade Aviation Museum

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go google that or see

Try googling F-2 Raptor

why? Its better now? They told you so? And you believe them? you gladly pay taxes for that? are you maybe even happy?

God forbid and let me put cross on myself. Please, don`t humiliate yourself here, anymore. Go to psychiatrist and ask for help. Serious help.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
11 Apr 2017 #128
T-50 doesn't exist now and probably never will.

That's why the F-16 is more than enough in my opinion, but if the F-35 programme can replace the F-16 programme at a reasonable cost, then absolutely, Poland should go for it.
johnny reb 48 | 7,102
11 Apr 2017 #129
Try googling F-2 Raptor

why? Its better now?

No, because the pictures that you posted are not of a F-22 Raptor, it is an out dated Stealth B-2 bomber.

Go to psychiatrist and ask for help.

Do you think that your insults will make you smarter ?
Now run along and google F-22 so to educate yourself.
These F-22 Stealth Fighter jets are flying above Russian outposts in Syria spying on them as we speak, without being detected.
I'm telling you Crow, you would want one of these.
NoToForeigners 9 | 995
11 Apr 2017 #130
F-22 Raptor was one of the greatest failures of USAF. LOL. Preparing the plane to get into action was couple of times more expensive than the plane itself, actual mission, fuel and all weapons discharged all together. Lol

And it failed to replace f15 completely lol
johnny reb 48 | 7,102
11 Apr 2017 #131
That's why the F-16 is more than enough in my opinion,

Seriously delph, what kind of aviation military experience do you have where your opinion would carry a drop of water ?
You can't be an expert on everything and this is one that you clearly are not.
The F-16 is so out dated that the U.S. Government sold them to Israel at scrap prices.
And yes, the T-50's would make mince meat out of the F-16's.
Google PAK-FA to see and read about them.

F-22 Raptor was one of the greatest failures of USAF

I am sure you read that somewhere that makes you an authority on the subject.
Just remember.... if they are showing the public such a war machine that no other can compare to then just think what they are not showing us.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
11 Apr 2017 #132
And yes, the T-50's would make mince meat out of the F-16's.

You do realise that the T-50 is smoke and mirrors at this point? Russia keeps putting off the orders, and given the huge problems that the USA has had with the F-35, it doesn't seem likely that Russia will be able to put T-50's in the air in any real quantity.
NoToForeigners 9 | 995
11 Apr 2017 #133
I am sure you read that somewhere that makes you an authority on the subject.

What makes you one? Lol

I knew about huge problems with F22. You did not. You, Johnny The Brainwashed, are just repeating what has been put into your head by USA's propaganda with no criticism at all.

nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/the-big-problem-americas-stealth-f-22-raptor-america-cant-19420

google.pl/amp/amp.dailycaller.com/2016/06/07/whats-wrong-with-the-f-22-raptor/

quora/Did-the-USAF-solve-the-F-22-oxygen-supply-problem
weg05
11 Apr 2017 #134
it doesn't seem likely that Russia will be able to put T-50's in the air in any real quantity.

They have ordered 16.Its not stealth and by no means a finished design. Like most things coming from Russia theses days , its ********. They haven't got the money people or ideas to do it.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
11 Apr 2017 #135
********. They haven't got the money people or ideas to do it.

The engine is a piece of crap as well, and isn't up to 5th generation standards.

I've seen a comment elsewhere saying that they'll put a few prototypes in the air and tell the gullible Russian public that it's a great Russian success story.
johnny reb 48 | 7,102
11 Apr 2017 #136
Its not stealth

How sure are you about that statement ?
Sources ?
I say it is stealth.

Look Snotty, I am an American talking about an American jet.
You are a insecure snotty Polish kid that likes nobody (except yourself) and believes everything that is on the internet is true.
That is what makes me the authority here. :-)
Sure it has flaws like the Russian T-50 has it flaws,
It is still being used to fly over the Russian troops in Syria to bomb ISIS without being seen on radar as we speak.
Now tell me, what does Poland have that compares to either of those two war machines before you start bad mouthing what is protecting your freedoms.

I've seen a comment elsewhere saying that they'll put a few prototypes in the air

That would be in the article that I posted here to google, "PAK-FA", would it. lol
You are the google king delph, (to sound like an authority on EVERYTHING) I will hand you that much.
Crow 154 | 8,996
11 Apr 2017 #137
Stealth? I don`t think so

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delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
11 Apr 2017 #138
Crowie, it has to be said, that was one of the most amazing examples of military defence in the 20th century. To shoot down a F-117 with old Soviet technology was just a remarkable achievement against all odds.

I'm undecided about Kosovo, but attacking Serbia was completely wrong in my opinion. I remember talking to a girl from Novi Sad at the time online, and she simply couldn't understand what was happening and why they were being attacked. She was especially upset about the bridges in Novi Sad being destroyed.

Lets get back to something Polish related
Crow 154 | 8,996
11 Apr 2017 #139
Lets get back to something Polish related

Wasn`t Poland (and still is), unfortunately, member of NATO at a time when NATO bombed Yugoslavia?
weg05
12 Apr 2017 #140
How sure are you about that statement ?
Sources ?


The fan blades are visible to radar head on, for a start. then there is some of the angles presented. Google it. Oh, and try and learnt a little about the difference between a F-117 and B2 and something about the subject matter in general.

The engine is a piece of crap as well, and isn't up to 5th generation standards.

Needs a engined developed, another reason why its not what the Russians claim

Here another Russian fantasy

popsci.com/look-ridiculous-russian-supersonic-transport-concept

designed by a teenager with its impossible intakes.

Or this, from a country that has never made a carrier anywhere near this size and does not have the capacity to do so

nextbigfuture.com/2015/05/russia-trying-to-sell-100000-ton-heavy.html
johnny reb 48 | 7,102
12 Apr 2017 #141
the difference between a F-117 and B2

Thank you for correcting me on that one.
Now back to something Polish related.
Crow 154 | 8,996
3 Jun 2017 #142
Great anti-NATO protests in Greece these days. Maybe Poland needs to follow
Crow 154 | 8,996
13 Nov 2017 #143
In interview of German psephologist Rudolf Henzel, he says that level and type of used high-toxic and radioactive weaponry against Yugoslavia, back in 1999, characterized NATO as aggressive organization that deliberately committed genocide and so owes apology and money compensation to Serbia.

"SAD i NATO Srbiji duguju izvinjenje"
/US and NATO owe apology to Serbia/
b92/info/vesti/index.php?yyyy=2017&mm=11&dd=12&nav_category=78&nav_id=1324495

nato
Joker 3 | 2,324
13 Nov 2017 #144
Here's a map of the roads closed to traffic

Very informative jon, good job.

Hey, have the streets opened up yet? It has been years of anti-NATO post form Crow....yawn!

Not to mention the incoherent ramblings of a madman.....
Crow 154 | 8,996
14 Nov 2017 #145
a madman

proud one.
Crow 154 | 8,996
4 Nov 2018 #146
Let me explain to you, my dear Polish sisters and brothers, what NATO means.

NATO is a promise.

It says: ``You promise you help us, we first fu** Russia. When we finish with Russia, we promise we fu** that what remain of you.``


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