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Streets closed in Warsaw during NATO summit


Crow 155 | 9,025
6 Nov 2016 #91
Ken O'Keefe

By his name, he must be Irish or Scottish. I would expect them to be capable to say truth. They still have that brave heart.
Crnogorac3 4 | 864
6 Nov 2016 #92
He is a former US Marine who dared to say the truth.

Vladimir Putin is in this moment the greatest statesman in the world today without any doubt. He is more popular in Serbia then even in Russia, he is equally popular in France, in Germany and also in USA.

In this moment Russians are the right side.

youtube.com/watch?v=cHfBIO-alTI
Crow 155 | 9,025
6 Nov 2016 #93
I personally don`t rely much on any politician. But, one thing is certain. Russia`s move in Syria was good, no matter which Russian politician contributed to that move of Russia, Putin or some other. That brought ISIS down and stooped series of USA and western European campaigns of looting that resulted in total chaos in Europe and world.
Crow 155 | 9,025
6 Nov 2016 #94
but i can imagine Polish and Russian soldiers side by side in exercise. Oh, that would be a scandal in the eyes of Anglos. They would go wild like electrified rats.
Harry
6 Nov 2016 #95
Oh, that would be a scandal in the eyes of Anglos.

Not at all, British and American people would care as much about Polish and Russian troops on exercises together as they would care about Poles declaring that the entire eastern half Poland was a Unicorn reserve and all other forms of agriculture and business would be banned there. Actually, they'd probably care more about a unicorn reserve.

i can imagine Polish and Russian soldiers side by side in exercise.

Yes, but anybody who has even the vaguest of knowledge about Poles will tell you that if Poles have the slightest choice in the matter they would prefer declaring that the entire eastern half Poland was a Unicorn reserve and all other forms of agriculture and business would be banned there than seeing the Polish army on exercises with Russians again.
Crow 155 | 9,025
6 Nov 2016 #96
Actually, they'd probably care more about a unicorn reserve.

Good that you mentioned that Harry, dear fiend, I mean friend. Good that Poles are reminded what Anglos thinks of them.

if Poles have the slightest choice in the matter they would prefer

but they don`t have choice. Its in Serbian interest and Poles would do that for us. Only for us and Anglos can explode from jealousy.
Crnogorac3 4 | 864
6 Nov 2016 #97
youtube.com/watch?v=LsprTic-T2o

NATO invasion on Crimea

LOL

:)
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #98
So money of Polish tax payers, payed due to Poland`s obligations to NATO could be use for illegal activities.

Believe it or not people, new role of NATO on Kosovo is to use illegal migrant routes for smuggling officials of so called state of Kosovo, from regions where are ethnic Albanians (as they called themselves- Shiftars) in majority into the regions where are Serbians in majority. I only hope that Polish forces aren`t involved in this. To put cross on myself, that could be final disgrace.

Source: "NATO smuggled Kosovo PM into north along migrant route" > b92/eng/news/politics.php?yyyy=2016&mm=12&dd=03&nav_id=99861
Harry
3 Dec 2016 #99
as they called themselves- Shiftars

Albanians do not call themselves that. You are the only person who calls them that and you call them that only because you have been repeatedly told not to call them Shiptars because that is a racist slur, so you've changed the spelling. We both know that you would never dare to call an Albanian 'Shiptar' to their face, because even the feeblest of Albanian grandmothers would stomp you into the dust.

I only hope that Polish forces aren`t involved in this.

It isn't possible for Polish forces to be involved in things that do not happen.
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #100
Albanians do not call themselves that.

Your fabricated lies would bring you nothing Harry. You can easily google on Shiftars/Squitars/Shiptars or something. Its how they call themselves. Italians and Greeks (and later western Europeans) invented name Albanians. Its all attempt to make Europeans from Shiftars because its suits to western European interests.

Albanians
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanians

The Albanians (Shqiptarët) and their country Albania (Shqipëria) have been identified by many ethnonyms. The most common native ethnonym is Shqiptar, pl. Shqiptarë;

Shqiptar
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shqiptar

Shqip(ë)tar (plural: Shqip(ë)tarët, feminine: Shqip(ë)tare); Gheg Albanian: Shqyptar, Shqiptar), is an Albanian language ethnonym (autonym), by which Albanians call themselves. They call their country Shqipëria and or Shqypnia/Shqipnia (in northern Albanian dialects).

So, case closed on real ethnic name of nation that western European media promote as Albanian ethnic name and that Albanian ethos as European natives on Balkans. BDW, why give to non-Europeans ethnic name that has its origin in Slavic etymology is behind me. For sure, reasons are sinister and anti-Slavic.

It isn't possible for Polish forces to be involved in things that do not happen.

I starting to worry when you, Harry, a proven anti-Polish liar and manipulator, defend Poles and Poland.
Harry
3 Dec 2016 #101
You can easily google on Shiftars/Squitars/Shiptars or something.

Yes, we can:

Shiptar
Race: Albanians
A derogatory term employed by Balkan Slavs (Croats, Serbs, Montenegrins and Macedonians) when referring to Albanians.

rsdb.org/slur/shiptar

you, Harry, a proven anti-Polish liar and manipulator

Please don't post utter bollocks.

defend Poles and Poland.

I'm only too happy to defend Poles and Poland, especially when the Poles in question are the best sort of Poles, the Poles who risk their lives to defend the people of the independent state of Kosovo against the Chetnik scum who raped and murdered their way across the Balkans before being penned into Serbia by NATO forces which I'm proud to see Poland taking part in.
mafketis 37 | 10,894
3 Dec 2016 #102
shqiptar = Albanian autonym (name for themselves)

shiftar = slur, used by bigots

the difference is similar to Polak (Polish autonym) and Pollack (slur used by bigots)
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #103
I'm only too happy to defend Poles and Poland, especially .............. against the Chetnik scum who raped and murdered their way across the Balkans before being penned into Serbia by NATO forces which I'm proud to see Poland taking part in.

Now, with downfall of Clinton`s, anti-Serbian propaganda is less and less popular. It would be much better for you to spot in which kind of ``state`` Shqiptars turned Kosovo. Narco-Mafia-Islamic Caliphate. That is what NATO guard on Kosovo. To use Polish forces to guard that kind of thing on holly ground of Racowie (Serbians in Polish) is the shameful mockery of everything Polish. Final act of humiliation of Poles by their very NATO and EU allies. Also, you can spot how is organized Croatian independent state, NATO/EU creation, too. Organized on Nazi principles and deny Slavic and Serbian roots of its population, while embraced false teachings of its Germanic origin. It went that far that even Pope himself washing his hands from Croatia and desperately tries to replace Cardinals and Bishops there in attempt to end Croatian/German/Nazi manipulations with Catholic Church in Croatia.

That you spot, my dear virtual Harry and don`t delude yourself with anti-Serbian propaganda. Use compass and then engage in discussions, on the principles of sanity.

shiftar = slur, used by bigots

I can confirm that Serbs can`t pronounce `Shqiptar` in normal speech. So, they say Shiftar or Shiptar. Its not bigotry. Bigotry is to call them Albanians. It has absolutely nothing with their ethnic name. Fortunately, standards of western Europe don`t rule in Serbia- here where West was born, heartland of Sarmatia.
mafketis 37 | 10,894
3 Dec 2016 #104
I can confirm that Serbs can`t pronounce `Shqiptar` in normal speech.

They can't say šćiptar? albanian q is more or less ć
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #105
But why you, for the sake of good God, using word `Albanian` when people call themselves `Shqiptar`? Why you imposing foreign ethnic designation on them? Why you insist on it? Why you blindly follow mainstream media of western Europe? Why would you do that if sane? Why, to put cross on myself, people do things like that. Is that imbecility?
Lyzko 45 | 9,420
3 Dec 2016 #106
The reason could be that many non-Shqiptar'i SPEAK Albanian, yet aren't Albanian aka those from Kosovo, who call themselves Kosovar'i, yet speak Albanian as well as Croatian, or the "Arabesh'i" in Italy who speak Albanian, yet ar technically Italian citizens:-)

Stick to the topic, please
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #107
No, Shiptars speak Shqiptar language. When Greeks and Romans of Eastern and Western Empire wanted to mock native Slavs (ie Sarmats) they populated on old Slavic land turkic Shiptars from near east and gave them name based on Slavic etymology `Albanians`. Then, considering mocking of Slavs was continual trend in Europe, western Europeans continued that. So, things develop. Today, you have situation that Shiptars starting to using word Albanian as their ethnic designation (parallel with old `Shiptar` name) and starting to consider themselves natives on Balkans (they have all new theories about that, real program), while consider Slavs to be newcomers in the region and in whole of Europe. It even got approval of USA congress, same way as it was back in past approved by Nazis. As for Kosovo Shiptars using term `Kosovar` they doing so in order to mock Serbs. But, they mistaken. They shall regret their provocations of Serbians. Sarmatia shall prevail.

See, NATO work for Shiptars and against Serbians, with it, against Poles, too. Its more then sad if some Poles don`t see that.
Crnogorac3 4 | 864
3 Dec 2016 #108


It seems the Crow effect is spreading "en masse" in Poland.

Ubi, Ubi, Ubi Shiptara LOL
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #109
Well, last year Shiptars cowardly spilled the blood of Polish Legia Warszawa fans in Albania. Even blood of players. You know when would Polish football fans forgive them that? Ha, never. Plus, these days you have internet full of Shiptar threats to Polish sport fans and to Polish people because of Polish solidarity with Serbians. Shiptars says that would Poles regret. This `Ubi, Ubi, Ubi Shiptara` by Polish fans must be their answer on threats. Poles losing nerves when somebody threat them.
Crow 155 | 9,025
3 Dec 2016 #110
After sudden attack by Shiptar mob, in addition, Poles were beaten by Shiptar police

edited...Blatant racial abuse will not be tolerated. Offenders may face a warning, a temporary, or permanent suspension
peterweg 37 | 2,311
4 Dec 2016 #111
shiptar

A dirty, smelly, tooth missing, ugly, unemployed Albanian who is a virus of a human being which lives in other peoples countries in europe and feeds off of them like a parasite. Very good at low wage jobs like stone masonry, and cleaning up the feces of superior races.

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shiptar
Crow 155 | 9,025
4 Dec 2016 #112
edited...Blatant racial abuse will not be tolerated. Offenders may face a warning, a temporary, or permanent suspension

yes, I apologize. See, they are occupiers and my emotions kicked in but i will be careful.
johnny reb 49 | 7,097
15 Feb 2017 #113
I hope they take action against the lying members of NATO that promised 2% of their GNP to support NATO.

BRUSSELS - U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Wednesday issued a sharp ultimatum to NATO Wednesday, telling allies they must start increasing defense spending by year's end or the Trump administration will "moderate its commitment" to them.

Now the United States is going to find out who their allies really are.
Poland is one of them as Poland has been paying their fair share.

We need a bear rug like this in the white house ...
As we all know, Rob O'Neill is the Navy Seal who killed Bin Laden.
When asked what he thinks about General "Mad Dog" Mattis as Secretary of Defense, O'Neill said:

"The General has a bear rug in his home, but it's not dead - it's just afraid to move".
Ironside 53 | 12,424
15 Feb 2017 #114
Poland is one of them as Poland has been paying their fair share.

Poland is buying another batch of F-16, regardless if that makes sense for Poland in military and economical sense or not.
About hundred they say.
Crow 155 | 9,025
15 Feb 2017 #115
hundred? see, that`s a business
Crow 155 | 9,025
8 Apr 2017 #116
Poles! Get the f*** out from NATO! Don`t allow western Europeans to pump you like a deranged w***.
weg05
9 Apr 2017 #117
Poland is buying another batch of F-16, regardless if that makes sense for Poland in military and economical sense or not.

The idea of buying second hand has been scrapped. The choice is now between new F-16's or F-35's
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
9 Apr 2017 #118
The F-16 is the most logical choice of the two. It might fall short of the claims that the MiG-35 makes, but it seems unlikely that Russia will be able to throw anything vastly better than the F-16 at Poland. The F-35 programme is just too complicated and too much of a mess to make it worth purchasing.

It's a pity that the MiG-29's are basically useless in the medium-term now because of the parts issues, otherwise they could easily have stayed in service until 2030 or so. They were a useful aircraft for air patrols, and it's not like Russia had anything much better available to fight them.

But personally, I'd rather Poland purchased Gripens from Sweden. The cost per hour is significantly less, they're cheaper to buy, and they do the job perfectly when it comes to air-to-air defence. There's no need for the flexibility that the F-16 offers because Poland needs them for a defensive role rather than offensive. The only real benefit I can see to buying more F-16's is that there's already 10+ years of expertise with them.
weg05
10 Apr 2017 #119
The Gripen is great but its more of the same as the F-16 - light weight single engine. The Americans (f-15,f-22) like the Russians (and Eurofighter) use twin engine aircraft as their air supremacy fighters.

Two engines gives you more power to weight, more energy, height that you can put into your missiles and weapons that can fly further and maneuver more to destroy them before they can engage you. Bigger aircraft also have bigger radar and can see the enemy first (tempered with being a bigger target)

The result of this is that the F-16 is obsolete, it cannot survive long against the best Russia fighters. Its main advantage is - its cheap to buy and operate (lifetime operating cost for military aircraft is 3x purchase cost). One engine = about half the operating cost of a twin.

So the Americans/British designed the F-35. Single engine but twice the weight and power of a F-16. Designed to be a mass produced, low cost to operate stealth aircraft. By the time Poland can buy it, the F-35 will have replaced the F-16 as the cheapest fighter and the software will be stable. If Poland wants NATO/US to defend it in case of war, having the F-35 facilities/support available within Poland will make a massive different. The F-16 just won't cut it.
johnny reb 49 | 7,097
11 Apr 2017 #120
it's not like Russia had anything much better available to fight them.

I beg to differ with you.

Russia's top fighter jet is the Sukho T-50.
(Google PAK-FA)

The United States of America has one that tops it however, the Stealth F-22 Raptor.
The U.S. has a couple of them based in Poland right now.


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