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Simon Mol is dead:No regrets


Maxxx Payne 1 | 196
29 Oct 2008 #31
No one deserves what he did to them, neither do the men that these women may have unwillingly infected

Thats true. Simon Mol is to blame and him alone. He is only an inch better than those dudes in Netherlands who injected HIV blood in their victims.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
29 Oct 2008 #32
Unfortunately not.

So he was calcuted in his approach? It saddens me what he did to these women, because there is always a backlash and his death wont be the end of it.

Shame he didn't go to prison, death is too good for him!
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #33
Im not feeling the love in the room after that comment - very ignorant and unpleasant.

Neither ignorant nor unpleasant. Its just facts...and I dont try to put facts so that I become some GURU in here... I put on the forum what my heart mind and soul says all together... and I believe in what I said.

Your ignorance is laughable. You sound like a third world medicine man. Maybe if the victims had slept with a virgin and showered afterwards that would have cured them.

Your ignorance is a pity Kilkline... to me its a pity. This is why this diesease is rampant! This illness is more in the mind than in the body.

You people ask how things can be won by the mind and heart?.... well... the way is the path of goodness, morality and kindness.

I dont say against love... but this act is of lust and immorality.... this act is the 'UNFORTUNATE' thing... the HIV is just a result... a result/reaction is nothing fortunate or unfortunate...its just the inevitable...

If I sound heartless or ignorant.... I think you should ask yourselves again... and I am not here to impress anybody....if they get shocked by truth, or try to find some other way (which doesnt exist) ... then its their problem...

death is too good for him!

Same for those women... all the apples of the same basket.

I know that this man was irresponsible.... this man did a crime... but why those women would sleep with such kind of a man?...so many woman!.... whats going on with them?... ofcourse!

Just I dont believe in being biased.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
29 Oct 2008 #34
Morality was a cover up for property protection:).

Some aspects were, but others were actually contrary to this rule. Contrary because what better way to keep the riches in the smallest possible circle of people than incest. And yet incest was not pursued in order to keep the riches in one piece. Some behaviors are simply more beneficial to people as a species than others and so they may end up being "moral". I agree though that morality is also just a label to be used on an as needed basis.

It may be a cultural/regional explanation, but there is another one. A simple fact of life. Most people did not, many still do not have RRSP, IRA or other retirement plans. The more children the better chance for the elderly, unable to work parents to have a chance to survive a little longer. More working hands could simply better afford the expected help. Even with large properties they still needed workforce. The ownership and labor relation systems as we know them now are secondary, as much as morality is secondary or even tertiary to needs of the species.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #35
Morality is more than monetary...

Love for God...
Truthfulness...
Faithfulness...
Honesty...
Caring for the parents....
Care and love for the wife/husband....
Mutual respect in a relationship...
Love for humanity....
Love for children...
Good deeds...
Being a reason for unity...
Being a reason for understanding...

etc... are behaviours which give a better shape to this world... Any other means to degrade these values bring calamity to society and individuals... many kinds of calamities.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
29 Oct 2008 #36
This is why this diesease is rampant! This illness is more in the mind than in the body.

Tell that to the girls who are suffering from HIV and who will die an unpleasant, probably painful death of AIDS related problems - HIV is a virus - same as a cough or a cold - only spread through bodily fluids - HIV does not discriminate between good people and bad people.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
29 Oct 2008 #37
Love for God

any particular god?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deities

Explain your selection.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #38
HIV does not discriminate between good people and bad people.

If you would read my first post... you would know that I do realise that this is a virus.... and it also attacks to the good person who somehow gets it through a disloyal husband/wife or a contaminted blood transplant etc... for them I pray for the cure...

But then, we are talking here about this Simon Mol and his victims. This is the topic here... and the main causes of HIV is infedility, drugs, and all soughts of really unhygene and immoral activities. This desease is different from the common cold and cough.

I do no discriminate the HIV patient... but then when it comes to pointing fingers.... I would put all of Simon's victims along with him...and his victim's promiscuous victims right at that stage too.... and THEN point fingers at all of them together!

any particular god?

The one with the capital 'G'

The Yahweh, The Holy Ghost....The Allah!!!... The Baghwaan.... The Kind Father, The Source of all Love, and the friend of the lonely traveller!...The Creater of Light... The Sun of Knowledge...and the Moon of Guidance... The evidence of Morality...and life.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
29 Oct 2008 #39
I do no discriminate the HIV patient... but then when it comes to pointing fingers.... I would put all of Simon's victims along with him...and his victim's promiscuous victims right at that stage too.... and THEN point fingers at all of them together!

As an alleged christian you have no business pointing fingers. Read the old texts again and pay special attention to where you are instructed to stay away from judging people. This is not your job, so you better concentrate on hail maries which is your real job.
polishgirltx
29 Oct 2008 #40
but then when it comes to pointing fingers.... I would put all of Simon's victims along with him...and his victim's promiscuous victims right at that stage too.... and THEN point fingers at all of them together!

and God points fingers too? i kind of can't get your way of thinking...
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #41
judging people

I am not judging people... but this is a forum. And this thread is about speaking out... so I am speaking out.

Injustice is something that was unliked by Jesus too... and speaking out against injustice is what I am doing. Why call those victims poor and helpless?...ofcourse they are not!... they bought their lusty pleasure in exchange of a possible peaceful life!... So it makes them deserving. Its hard and cold sounding maybe... but unfortunately its just like that. Pity... I hope they could've lived out of this...or just didnt do that thing!... but well.... it was their decision.

Here its simon mol... someday might see another!... some Polish man, some UK man, some USA man!!!... anyone!

and God points fingers too? i

First of all I am not God...

Secondly... I say my word... my mind... and that is one of the sole aim of forums and blogs...

By pointing funger... i also broadly meant... keeping in the SAME FRAME.... not that I am judging them. However if you think that, you can.

The matter is of important in many ways... this matter needs youths to raise up and think... As a part of the Polish Young Generation... me including all here have right to think about it and speak out if needed.
polishgirltx
29 Oct 2008 #42
I am not judging people... but this is a forum. And this thread is about speaking out... so I am speaking out.

you are judgmental, even you got your rules and believes... it somehow contradicts...
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #43
it somehow contradicts...

Contradicts what?

I am not judgemental of someones morality.... but I do judge the act and the consequences. I do hold believed and rules over Morality... and without believe, without passion, compassion or code of conduct in life, where is a person's personality?

This thread is more about a person X and a Set of Y1. Y2.....Yk ... to me (where X=Simon, Yk=victims of simon). The act and the consequences is what I am talking about.
polishgirltx
29 Oct 2008 #44
you're right, this thread is not about you... as you've said, it's a forum and i added my opinion....i won't bother to elaborate...
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #45
elaborate

Thats you wish... but elaboration..open hearted discussion....is part of these places. We shouldnt just me mechanical...atleast thats what seems to be the right way.
z_darius 14 | 3,968
29 Oct 2008 #46
Injustice is something that was unliked by Jesus too... and speaking out against injustice is what I am doing.

Why is it injustice?
Why you meddling with god's grand plan?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
29 Oct 2008 #47
People suffering in the hands of calamities....

Plus... if there was this consequence....not only Mol was responsible.... holding him only responsible is also a kind of injustice.

God's great plan can be peace and love and unity and harmony....not HIV and hatred and division.
Kilkline 1 | 689
30 Oct 2008 #48
Your ignorance is a pity Kilkline... to me its a pity. This is why this diesease is rampant! This illness is more in the mind than in the body.

You said HIV was caused by poor hygiene. Can you explain in your usual flowery way how we may fight the scourge of HIV with soap and water?
Daisy 3 | 1,227
30 Oct 2008 #49
Can you explain in your usual flowery way how we may fight the scourge of HIV with soap and water?

is that why they're called scrubbers?
Harry
30 Oct 2008 #50
Shame he didn't go to prison, death is too good for him!

He did go to prison. He spent nearly a year in prison without being charged. Then he spent the rest of his life on trial.
ShelleyS 14 | 2,893
30 Oct 2008 #51
He did go to prison.

You know what I mean Harry - whilst I am all for a fair trial for people - what he did, I think he got off lightly! What's the life expectancy of a person with HIV / AIDS? times that by how many people who have been infected due to his actions and then ask yourself was 1 year in prison enough?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
30 Oct 2008 #52
1 year in prison enough?

He got what he deserved already...

The peopled infected.... could stay uninfected if they wanted... I wonder what kind of upbringing they got anyways...

with soap and water

Hygene is not only done with soap and water... there are hygenes in behaviour and practices.... hygene in actions.

Mixing with the wrong people is also unhygene.
OP southern 75 | 7,096
30 Oct 2008 #53
The peopled infected.... could stay uninfected if they wanted...

How could they?By forcing him to use the racist condom?
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
31 Oct 2008 #54
By not being immoral and promiscous in the first place.

There are good men of all colors... why go to gangsters and mafias?

People have good charecters too... uff!... I guess just some things dont get into some people...
Kilkline 1 | 689
31 Oct 2008 #55
I bet you've never pulled a woman in your life have you? Your attitude is what turns Muslims into suicide bombers- sexual frustration and fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time when you're not.
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
1 Nov 2008 #56
Muslims into suicide bombers

They are confused...

good time

My good time comes from my belief and accordance of my heart soul and mind. I dont do something that I know is not good, and will bring be upsetting. If I thought that wrong use of the sexual impulse, or consumption of drugs, would give me joy and satisfaction....I would be doing it.

The person who 'Just doesnt do' but regrets, or blames himself...or is selfish about others who do that particular thing.... is worse than that person who does that particular act.

For sexual impulses and love...You Can Have a Good Wedded wife!... Love HER, Respect HER!... have children... be responsible for your family!!!...

Drugs and unhygene?...Alcoholic drings and tobbacco?.... well... there are fruits and necters...and milk and water... etc etc...good things you can consume. But its my way of life...

But I do share with people...specially children...and my friends who practice conscience do share that too... so that people can think about it themselves...specially children.
Babinich 1 | 455
1 Nov 2008 #57
I would have loved to see my husbands face if he was the one to go into labor and me wipe his forhead from a armslength distance!!

I have a feeling that this is tongue in cheek but just in case...

Any man should be willing to sacrifice his all for his wife. Yes, that even includes the hypothetical about role change in the birthing of a child.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
1 Nov 2008 #58
RIA!!

Roger Milla he wasn't :)
Lodz_The_Boat 32 | 1,535
1 Nov 2008 #59
Any man should be willing to sacrifice his all for his wife.

A MAN... being a MAN needs the spirit of a Man.
Wyspianska
11 Nov 2008 #60
Love for humanity....

You are a hypocrite. You almost called me a sluuut like 3 days ago, you think that was because of love for people you have hahah. Plus I'm not that type of a girl who is sleeping around trust me, I'm not. People like to assume things a lot and say things about somoene they don't even know and it always brings a good laugh.

PS and not everyone who's making love has HIV. ther is a thing called TRUST and PROTECTION. Have you ever heard?

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