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Roman Polanski accused of unlawful sex with a minor



mafketis 16 | 4,721    
21 Aug 2017  #211

The prosecutor will make a deal with the defendant and his attorney(s) and the judge will decide whether to accept it or not which they almost always do

One version that I read is that the judge initially signalled they'd accept the Polanski plea deal and then changed their mind (thinking of an upcoming political campaign) that's when Polanski bailed.


delphiandomine 87 | 15,827    
21 Aug 2017  #212

Hang on...why would the judge care about politics?

(missing something about the US here, I think...)
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
21 Aug 2017  #213

Can't say for sure in this case, but in some cases judges are elected.
johnny reb 13 | 2,456    
21 Aug 2017  #214

They lied to him so he would take the plea deal of no prison time to get a conviction and once Roman agreed to the plea deal and was convicted they then reneged on the plea deal of no prison so he took flight out of the U.S. is my understanding.

Quite a common practice in the U.S.A. to get convictions.
Ben Dover    
22 Aug 2017  #215

You Polish clowns are so blinkered when it comes to your own. Polanski is a grub. The Yanks knew it. He ran because he knew he couldn't get away with it like he can in Europe.
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
22 Aug 2017  #216

once Roman agreed to the plea deal and was convicted they then reneged on the plea deal of no prison so he took flight out of the U.S. is my understanding

Yeah, all the stories have in common that the judge first accepted a plea deal and then backed out and so he bailed. But there's no single story about why the judge backed out of the deal.
Tacitus - | 106    
22 Aug 2017  #217

The whole case is just a mess. I feel sorry for the victim, who was raped as a child and is constantly reminded of that by people who want an interview with her.

If it is true what I have read, that the plea bargain was initially made to spare the victim the media circus of a public trial (which is sensible and often done in other countries as well, although the USA might be more generous regarding the terms they offer the culprit), then the current situation is not without some sort of bitter irony.
mafketis 16 | 4,721    
22 Aug 2017  #218

I feel sorry for the victim, who was raped as a child and is constantly reminded of that by people who want an interview with her

She's said repeatedly she just wants the thing to be over (I'm sure she's been compensated to say that but still....).

the current situation is not without some sort of bitter irony

Yes, it exposes (among other things) some of the worst aspects of the US legal system
Tacitus - | 106    
22 Aug 2017  #219

Yes, it exposes (among other things) some of the worst aspects of the US legal system

I wonder, did they make any legal changes in response to this case afterwards?

I mean it is not despicable per se to offer plea bargains in such cases where there is no physical evidence (at least that is what I have read) for the rape and just the testimony of the victim. While this is often enough for the conviction, it can be incredibly traumatizing for the victim (especially when it is a child) to testify and get questioned by a team of highly paid lawyers, additionally to the media attention.
johnny reb 13 | 2,456    
9 Oct 2017  #220

Another woman has come forward accusing Oscar winning director Roman Polanski of sexually assaulting her as a teenager.
This makes number #4.
Swiss authorities said Wednesday that a German woman has filed a complaint alleging Polanski sexually assaulted her 45 years ago in a Swiss resort town while she was in her mid - teens.

He gave her champagne and qualuudes and they end up in the hot tub naked where he captured her maiden.
Renate Langer, 61, filed the complaint last week in a police station in the northern city of St. Gallen.
She said Polanski had raped her at his house in Gstaad, a well known Alpine resort town, in February 1972, according to police and the regional state prosecutor's office.

rollingstone.com/culture/news/roman-polanskis-alleged-sexual-assaults-what-you-need-to-know-w507139
Joker - | 513    
10 Oct 2017  #221

He gave her champagne and qualuudes and they end up in the hot tub naked where he captured her maiden.

He's just as bad as Bill Cosby! It just goes to show you if you're a famous celebrity the rules get bend in your favor.

They both belong behind bars. Its too bad by the time justice is served they will be really old and get special treatment.
Joker - | 513    
11 Oct 2017  #222

Roman Polanski of sexually assaulting her as a teenager.

It appears Harvey Weinstein is going to try to use Europes lax extradition laws to avoid going to jail. It worked 40 years for Pedo Polanski
Dirk diggler 4 | 1,159    
11 Oct 2017  #223

@Joker

Or Israel, where numerous other pedophiles, war criminals, frausters, etc hide out under the protection of the government who refuses to give them up.
Crnogorac3 1 | 239    
1 day ago  #224

Harvey Weinstein

From A-list stars to budding actresses: The women who accuse Harvey Weinstein of rape and sexual harassment during his two decade reign of terror in Hollywood

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4974110/amp/Harvey-Weinstein-investigated-rape-charges.html

dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/the-casting-couch-hollywoods-dirty-secret/news-story/48a0e5b536871e56bd5d7c8573c7cf72

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Dirk diggler 4 | 1,159    
21 hours ago  #225

In that case it was def an underage girl.

Yes the us legal system is pretty corrupt. Its money at the lower level meaning if you get a misdemeanor or even a minor felony you can get it easily lowered to different charge, as long as you can pay the huge fees and convince the judge ur going to just an upstanding tax paying citizen during whatever probation supervision or other bs they give. Criminal punishments are far lower than many other oced countries.

In case involving people like Weinstein and other wealthy powerful people esp sex crimes, financial crimes, even murders its sort of a who you know and the evidence. Sadly it runs on a system of as long as you have connections and didn't leave behind much evidence a lot of the times its very hard to convict.

Not only that enforcement is lax. In my city only about 12% of murders result in a conviction (majority) or are in self defense or by policy (minority of that 12%)




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