Religious extremists advocate murdering gay Polish politician

This is, of course, complete nonsense. Ideological and political pluralism is the basis of every democracy, and I do not need to convince anyone of the superiority of democracy over other political systems.

The EU disagrees. Why are it's ministers not elected? It's structure was setup to mirror the Soviet Union.

Members of Parliament are elected and then they elect the President of the European Union and the "Ministers". Elections to the EU Parliament are extremely democratic. Voters can vote from the age of 16, and they can also vote in a foreign country.

You are nonsense. There shouldn't be multiple takes on what is moral/ethical in one society. If there is, that trouble and doesn't bode well for the future.
If you are an idiot and a traitor leaving in Germany, just become German, don't be stubborn and meddle.
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They play for our money, their impact on the real issues is zero. The whole power is in the hand of the EC.

That's not what I was talking about when I wrote that you're not "normal." I meant that you and Ptak are sociopaths.


One that base their Christianity on all of what Jesus said and done and not only on one episode at the Temple :)

Ironside, did you attend katecheza? What religious teaching did you receive and from whom?


The Catholic Church has always had a lot of influence on politics and law though and it still has in Poland.


Firstly, all the societies in this world largely agree on a general framework of what is "moral/ethical" according to humans. People usually differ on details.
Secondly, that's not how the real world works. There are always going to be people with different views than yours. Democratic system simply reflects the views of the society.
Thirdly, different political views aren't only about "morality/ethics," but also can be about all kinds of other things, like economy, foreign relations, etc.

So having "limited menu" is good or bad? Make up your mind lol


Normal people with empathy.


And here we are at the core of the issue, the crux of the matter. The people you enumerated - rapists, thieves, murderers - are people who hurt other people. Gay people aren't hurting others by being gay. They aren't hurting others by having consensual sex with other gay people and by having romantic relationships with other gay people. So you're making a false equivalence.


It looks like he prefers Iran. Or rather - Afghanistan is his wet dream.


Exactly. And that's how democracies have been functioning for years, including Poland since the fall of the totalitarian communist regime.

Let put it this way, America is not a democracy it is a republic.
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I don't know what do you mean by the term democracy? Let be specific? Do you mean to tell that Poland is a democracy and that what you are talking about?
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You mean women who have too much time on their hand and no kids? Women shouldn't be able to vote anyway. You adding another point to the reason why.
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No, homosexuals are people who claim (same) that being a homosexual is a good thing. That the same bias you see in other examples I posted.
That is perversion of the natural order. We as humans may tolerate it, as it is not their fault ( for the most part) that have this affliction, but there is no reason to celebrete it.
Family with many children should be celebrated, proud to be a mother of seven kids should be on the banners, that is healthy that is right.
Also, how many times do I need to post that the LGBT agency is not about homosexuals, it is about imposition of the new order, that is nothing good. Take it seriously.
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Debating with people like you is pointless. jon at least put it there for a tactical reason.
You take it on its face value. I wonder is it because you are a woman or because you are a retard. Often it is the one and the same.
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What fall? They never fallen? They transformed and they are the main problem in Poland.
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@Paulina

Do you have any evidence to support your claim? If not, that is a slander.
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@Paulin
Has he done it? Never apologized or backed down, that was the right thing to do.
So, what is your issue? It was one of the milestones that Christianity preserved and build upon. All that hippy, we love all kumbaya stuff is just not real.
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What influence?
Not again that commie fear about some uncontrolled influence on the population by the Church. That is a totalitarian fear, nothing less nothing more.
The RCC in Poland hardly meddle into politics. People who are Catholic that is a different issue, that is only natural and there is nothing wrong with building a society and a country on the Christian fundaments.
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Not really. That is only your uninformed prejudice.
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It is not about views. It is about core beliefs and core moral fundaments. If you have commies they do not have the same moral or ethical code like Buddhist, the Muslim has different moral code than Christianity, the Judaism has a differnt moral code that all of them, and so on and so forth.
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To summ it up. Christians may disagree about some details but they have a common ground to build upon. It is impossible to have a common grunt with commies /progressive and Christians they (commies) may pretend to strike a deal for a tactical reason. That is not for real and doesn't last.
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You have described base conditions under which a coherent society can function.

why? it's not like theres going to be any jobs for them in the future.

They can form a family clan and engage in organized crime. 🤷‍♂️

@Alien
isn't that your Syrian employees?

They don't come from the same family. 😏