Religious extremists advocate murdering gay Polish politician

Of course he means it, haven't you been paying attention?

Yes, I know, that is why I put limits - Kill, Poland, post 1989. Is it so hard to follow them??


really? Media and net are full of celebrities and average people who gossip and boast about their sex life, mostly hetero.


That is a swing back I was talking about - LGBT wants to release the stress they felt when they had to live in supression and hiding for so many centuries. Simple. You will see it also in Poland sooner or later - that is why fighting it is useless and only causes ferment and bad atmosphere.


Come on, hatred blinds you which certainly doesn`t serve your purpose. If you do away with only one of them, you will get a life sentence and how will you fight them from behind the bars????

I am not your pupil, I will follow whatever I want to follow, I am not interested in any of your limits thank you.

Looks like the leftist agenda within the LGBT movement is creating hatred and anger and is not helping the LGBT cause.

Hundreds of thousands of LGBT people do not follow the leftist anarchist agenda of rioting and holding orgies in the streets and inciting anger.

But that is against basic logic and you know about it. Hence, my words: rightists are unable to run a fair debate. Simple.


My answer is traditional: death threats, kill, Poland, nowadays. hahaha

In Jew-run Hollywood yes, because it's part of an agenda to oversexualize people especially the youth - all part of a broader agenda to make people forget about their roots, their traditions, their culture and instead support multiculturalism, consumerism, mixed marraiges, LGBT, etc. It's sickening. Naturally, it's only for the goys - you won't see this crap being pushed in Israel or in hardcore Jewish communities.


Good luck with changing the constitution and the opinions of tens of millions of Poles. As of right now there is no will to change the laws to allow for gay marraige. Not to mention the fact that some 70 80% of Poles are firmly against gay marraige. According to polls, Poles don't even accept gay teachers, gay co-workers, gay bosses, etc. I wouldn't want to associate or socialize with one either and clearly most Poles are of the same mindset. If one even said hello to me I'd have to use every ounce of energy to stop myself from caving their face in.


I'm not going to kill anyone unless it's in self-defense as I value my freedom especially since I've already done time and it sucks. Nonetheless, I can only support Polish people and the Polish government's anti-gay policies. I couldn't be prouder of the fact that Poland is the least gay friendly place in the EU. Hopefully that never changes.

Tbh, I've never heard of holding orgies (gay or non-gay) in the streets in Poland. But I hear of assaults on gay people, particularly at the time when PiS starts to call them non-humans.

Well go to gay pride in London , soon coming to a street in Poland.


You hear of many things in your head when it comes to a political party that you don.t like (Typical lefty)

Unlike you I think all Politicians are To$$ers so I am not blinded by politics , In seven years of living here I have not come across one Pole who said they would hurt someone who is gay, quite the opposite , my friends tend to be younger than me and non of them to my knowledge is homophobic or a racist.

I hang out with people with a brain , I guess you live in the city where you have random nutters who live for football and fighting.

Sure, there are/were numerous incidents involving violent actions of leftist scum in Poland. If your boyfriend hasn't chopped off your little pedalskie fingers yet, you will be able to find out more by way of using google search engine ;) For a start, check this out:tvp.info/33192408/awantura-w-stolicy-zaatakowany-dzialacz-prolife-przeszedl-operacje

My favourite example involves a bunch of idiots, calling themselves antifa, who attacked fans of some ****** club, got beaten up and later on it turned out that they were all in their thirties, jobless and living with their parents. I can't remember exactly when that happened.

hahaha typical rightard violent imagination. Thank you for proving my point. buahaha

Your example is useless coz it was the rightard activist who attacked a leftist person who had to react in self-defence. I hope you don`t deny the right to self-defence to people.

Please, next time try better and refer us to up-to-the-topic examples - namely, leftists threatening to kill anybody because of ideological differences.


Typical rightard fake news style of debate - you don`t know when, where, who, why. Thank you. hahahaha

Was is you pawian? Only a leftie, full of hate and scorn monkey would act in a such abhorrent way.


You don't know who are those people. That is only an assumption. Beside you should know the internet, what it is like. I suspect you know, you just use that opportunity like a proper scum to create a certain narration. I would add an absolutely false one.

The truth of the matter is that someone acted in this way or some media wrote that someone did JUST to provoke people and to precisely provoke reaction like THAT. Nothing to it!

I wonder if I would s''it on your doorways and then knock at your door and ask you for a toiled paper what your reaction would be ...hmm ..would you hand over a toiled paper and simile? Really?

What should happen to do dude? At least a year in prison and some hefty fine. I would opt for just a hefty fine but those kind of people are supported by some heavy money grubbers so he wouldn't be paying from his own pocket.

Wow! Isn't it some kind of a rightist's projection of how life looks like in a gay partnership?

PS. Why this funny nick of yours? I understand 'Taczer' (my heroine as well), but 'Korki'? Don't you think a more solemn one (like Ironside 2, for example) would suit your character better?

yes, that`s why I commented it sounded like typical violent rightist nature. Where do those guys get their sick ideas from, I wonder? hahaha


There was a series in 1990s with a likeable character, the boy called Corky who had Down syndrome.


hahaha no, not me. This time. I would gladly play with rightards like that but I don`t have time. Perhaps when I am retired which is going to be sooner than later.


Ha! At last some words of wisdom. That`s what I was waiting for.


Of course I do. No, I use that opportunity to create a discussion. hahahaha


Of course prison is out of question. And if those activists have good barristers, they will be acquitted or even if not, they will turn to the EU for help and the Polish state will have to pay them compensation.

As an occasional poster and often lurker, I have to say, Jon has the patience of a saint. Is there really any need to insult his sexuality all the time? The fact that he remains calm and civil and keeps posting here at all is a wonder.

I have to disagree with Ironsides and others - it is no longer the social norm in Poland to be homophobic, just like it isn't in western countries. For its faults, Poland is actually making progress, albeit slow, to become more tolerant. I've been to several Pride events in Poland, out of solidarity (I'm not gay) and they show the true picture - a people who are doing their best to get out from under the grim shroud of conservative Catholic extremism, just as they threw off the shackles of Soviet control. If Poles are truly as freedom-loving as they make out, then that surely must include the right to love and be attracted to members of the same sex.

I see a misunderstanding of gay pride here. It's not about framing one sexuality as better than another but merely being allowed to openly celebrate that aspect of yourself. They aren't hurting anyone or ruining any societies, and furthermore you can be sure that gay people will be among the first to stand with you and your 'people' if you are under threat, because they know exactly what that's like.

I know this is the internet and we can all be as rude as we like under the cloak of anonymity but 'can' and 'should' are two different things. Be a bit more respectful to the bloke (and gay people in general) - it won't hurt you and will actually feel pretty good.

Calling Jon a saint just because he stays calm is a stretch. Have you met his sock puppet yet?

And Poland isn't some perfect tolerant place now either.


He is consumed with hate and TDS but it appears he has a new leftard friend to defend him...lol

Ditto.
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Well, it need to be changed, Starting with pride parades of homophobes. Proud to be homophobic and there is nothing wrong with being homophobic.

In fact homosexuality were prosecuted mostly in the protestant countries, which tell us an important truth, heretic are not on the right path with religion so they can't be right with social norms.
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Those protestant countries are prone to a totalitarian rule and to monitor people and their private lives. You are projecting too, much. Grim? Your thoughts are grim and extreme.

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If anything doesn't understand deeper issues involve in so called parades it is you. You buy or pretend to buy into a nice sounding propaganda behind which there is an ugly (grim) face of liberals/progressive extremists.
They are not going to tell us what to do.
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Nobody wants to take away others' right to love, as it is impossible to control others' emotions. The real problem is that there must be a clear border to everything. The more humans get, the more they want. If we fully praise and promote LGBTQ+, then others may want their desire to have sex with minors to be "protected" too.

Or take it to the workforce - why not allow a person with Down syndrome to be an air traffic controller? Are people opposing this haters too?

This seems very American.

Where does this need to celebrate any aspect of yourself come from?

Americans are a very lonely and isolated people, so they have need of all sorts of clubs, associations, Polish-American parades, Greek-American parades, etc.

"Hello! I exist! I matter! I'm very proud to be who I am!" - that's all very American...

Normal people from other countries should view this as some form of mental illness - no?

Life is much wider and bigger than merely your choice of sexual partner, or sports team, or profession.

Why this need to be "seen"?

Focus instead on family and nature and friends!

Not quite, or pride parades (called "equality parades/marches" in Poland) would be happening only in the US. You really don't understand where this need for "feeling pride" is coming from?

Why do Jews organise the March of the Living in Auschwitz?

What is the opposite of "living"?

What is the opposite of "pride"?


Because they were forced to hide for centuries?

And even now their relationships are diminished, their sexuality used as mocking tools in conversations, their health and even life in danger.

So are the bank robbers, murderers and pedophiles.

But they are not that colorful 🌈

That would be an understatement in many countries.


I haven't noticed Trump hiding much. He seems to like the spotlight.

Doubtless they would, however developed societies protect children as less developed ones try to and this is nothing to do with the issue.


Why this need to hide"?


Yes. It does help to be thick skinned and tougher than most however not everyone can do that.


He flaunts his sexuality with all those weddings, forced his peccadilloes with Marla Maples, Stormy Daniels and his daughter Ivanka down people's throats and as for that pu$$y grabbing...

As far as being gay goes, it stemmed largely from the changes brought about by the Stonewall Riots.


The irony is that homosexuality was at one time classified as a mental illness. It was also punishable by death.

I don't know...

One of the few actual uses of history - is simply being able to track change over time (not whatever non-historians argue about its predictive usefulness).

Knowing history - you know that people didn't always maintain homophobia as the mainstream approach. In many different places, homosexuality was viewed neutrally AND for centuries. In medieval Japan, in Ancient Greece, in the Ottoman Empire, in Imperial China, in India, and so on.

In modern Afghanistan (despite all the legal proscriptions) and in modern Saudi Arabia - there seems to be a disproportional amount of gay people, or at least people engaging in what would be considered homosexual behavior anywhere in the West. You will rarely ever read about it in the Western press - but it's a fact.

However, one thing I don't think you could find in any time period or any place, was the minority parading around and rubbing their exceptionality in everyone's face. Why is this necessary? How will this not lead to problems - for gay people first and foremost?


Because who we f*ck and how we f*ck shouldn't be a topic of public discussion. It's vulgar. It reduces people's identity to something much narrower than what they actually are. See above.

You mean it is not anymore?

Today it is treated with lobotomy. 🤫

And yet if the public starts to suspect someone is guy you won't hear the end of it.

Not really.

It's an open secret that Kaczyński and Bosak are gay and it doesn't stop millions of people from voting for them.


Exactement - as our nuclear umbrella providers would say. :)

The fact you responded with that proves my point. He never said anything yet the speculations, jokes etc appeared.