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Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates


OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,131
The current government has 3 clear years now to put laws and education in place

Only in accordance with European laws.

Loooooosssssseeeers should shut their gobs now

hahah bolshevik thinking, like in all rightards. I wouldn`t count on it if I were you.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
13 Jul 2020 #2,132
Duda won biiiiiitchhess!!!! No more fagowski!!! Poland's economy will keep chugging along while Polish tradition and social conservatism remain = )

Only in accordance with European laws.

Polish law trumps EU law. The EU has no way to enforce their laws. Remember what happened with Article 7? ROFL!!!!
Crow 146 | 9,122
13 Jul 2020 #2,133
That is democracy. Every voice counts. We all have to learn that. Politicians, too.

Polish law trumps EU law.

And Polish values are above EU values.

EU values are Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Racism, Slavery, Colonialism. Those are EU values. Its not for Poland.
Zlatko
13 Jul 2020 #2,134
Dirk, you're out of it! Recently Sofia was ranked as having higher salaries in the outsourcing/BPO industry than Warsaw. Thank PiS for that! Poland needs to move from simple outsourcing to more high value IT - programming and technologies.

Oh and I was offered the equivalent of just 600 Euros per month when I got 1200 Euros in little Bratislava for same position. That's PiS' fault.
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,135
No more fagowski!!

Wrong. He is going to stay in politics for a long time and become the leader of Tusk format who will smash rightards one day. :) He is only 48 years old. Everything`s before him. On condition maniacal rightards don` t assassinate him, like Narutowicz or Adamowicz.

Poland's economy will keep chugging

Choking.

while social conservatism remain = )

until the next elections ??? haha

Poland needs to move from simple outsourcing to more high value IT - programming and technologies.

yes, but it is unattainable by PiS - those bolshevik rightards are imbeciles who only know how to squander money, not invest it wisely.
Ziemowit 13 | 4,282
13 Jul 2020 #2,136
EU values are Nazism, Fascism, Communism, Socialism, Racism, Slavery, Colonialism

Any other -isms you could possibly miss out here?

That's PiS' fault.

PiS is not my cup of tea either, but you can't blame them for everything.
Crow 146 | 9,122
13 Jul 2020 #2,137
Any other -isms you could possibly miss out here?

It is what western Europe invented and exported to others, built EU on it. Values around witch rotate generations of western Europeans. We Slavs are also victims of those values.

Just compare Polish Sarmatism to all of it and you will see how deeply we Slavs sunk the moment our ancestors were subjugated by western Europe. We Slavs simple were naive, unable to comprehend greed of western Europe that initiated Drang Nach Osten. We barely managed to survive and still recuperate.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
13 Jul 2020 #2,138
PiS isn't the one who decides or controls market forces. They can influence them somewhat through fiscal and monetary policies and perhaps some government incentives for certain fields and companies. That being said though, Poland has a ton of programming, coding, development and other IT jobs that pay very well by Polish standards. That's why there's always a ton of Indians and Pakis here asking about job offers and companies. 9/10 times it's for an IT position.

The outsourcing/BPO jobs have been low paying even before PiS. That too has made Poland successful though because companies hire Polish people because they're educated, often speak 2 or 3 languages, and tend to be hard working and devoted to their jbos.

I was offered the equivalent of just 600 Euros per month when I got 1200 Euros in little Bratislava for same position. That's PiS' fault.

No it's your own for having a low market value. No one else is to blame. 1200 is a bullshit wage. No one is going to pay you more than you're worth and clearly you're not worth much regardless of location.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,139
Only in accordance with European laws.

In 3 years Poland will be paying to the EU and fighting off more migrants, the next election might be all about hard polexit .

Ha Ha ha ha Llllllllooooosssser leftard libtard Marxist lllllooooooosers.

Time for action and legislation against radical corrupt elements.

Commies commies commies , out out out.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
13 Jul 2020 #2,140
In 3 years Poland will be paying to the EU and fighting off more migrants, the next election might be all about hard polexit .

I've been saying this for a long time. Right now, Poles' approval of the EU is high. Just wait though till Polish people are asked to pay for states like Albania to enter the EU and when they're asked to support all the kebab that Merkel welcomed in.
amiga500 2 | 223
13 Jul 2020 #2,141
@polamkrakow well played. shall we finalise our wager? :) would you prefer a polish or american bank account? :)
Ziemowit 13 | 4,282
13 Jul 2020 #2,142
In 3 years Poland will be paying to the EU

If the EU has been paying for the last 15 years, so it is Poland's turn now ...

legislation against radical corrupt elements.

So you think it hasn't been radically corrupt when the EU paid to Poland's budget.
PolAmKrakow 1 | 590
13 Jul 2020 #2,143
@amiga500
Polish, you can pm it to me. In USA now picking up a truckload of cash to bring back anyway.
Crow 146 | 9,122
13 Jul 2020 #2,144
Just wait though till Polish people are asked to pay for states like Albania

It would be nothing but financing Albanian mafia behind which is western Europe. Britain is wise that moved out in time. It was too much to them. Too much materially and mentally.

If the EU has been paying for the last 15 years, so it is Poland's turn now ...

Well, all have its price. Its truth.

Polexit will go with Big Bang, I`m affraid.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,146
15 years, so it is Poland's turn now ...

Why should we kind to those murdered us and sold us to Stalin.

So you think it hasn't been radically corrupt when the EU paid to Poland's budget.

The money paid no where near pays compensation for the crimes of one EU state ( Germany) and the selling of Poland at Yalta by others.

So taking what the EU have paid us thus far is a mere drop in the ocean, and nothing that EU should get overly worried about if we wish not to pay it back.

Poland needs to work hard before the next Elections to educate and undo the works of Marxist evil doers here, We must strengthen our nation so that it would not become morally corrupt and crime infested like Germany, France or the UK .
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,147
A journalist of Onet news platform which I like for independent and impartial reports, mentioned 6 elements which might have contributed to Duda`s victory.

- exceptional mobilisation of Duda`s supporters
- state TV black propaganda against Trzaskowski
- lack of clear support of Hołownia for Trzaskowski
- Trzaskowski`s absence at the rigged debate in Końskie town.
- Trzaskowski`s absence in Eastern Poland - he didn`t go there at all during the campaign while Duda travelled everywhere.
- power of benefits and lower retirement age is still substantial

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/wybory-prezydenckie-2020-jak-duda-pokonal-trzaskowskiego-szesc-waznych-elementow/g53vds5,79cfc278
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,148
contributed to Duda`s victory.

How very sad , bla bla bla looooosssssseeerrrrrrrr. nothing more nothing less, Its time for you to shut up and respect democracy wait another 3 years where you will get your chance to vote again.

Till then Zip-a-dee Duda is the winnner !!!!! winner !!!!!!!! chicken dinner.
mafketis 24 | 9,385
13 Jul 2020 #2,149
mentioned 6 elements which might have contributed to Duda`s victory.

I'll add: Completely neglected the economic failures of PiS (especially the woefully inadequate tarcze that have done nothing for small businessmen)

lack of clear support of Hołownia for Trzaskowski

What a whiny little b1tch Hołownia turned out to be... he has no business in politics. I loathe him. Did you see the tv24 interview? He looked like he was sucking on a pickle and a second or two after he began talking the sound went out... (I think it was maybe on purpose).
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,150
bla bla bla looooosssssseeerrrrrrrr.

Dolno, you`d better not be so triumphant, it`s a sin. hahaha

Its time for you to shut up

Yes, I know you would like it very much but if you possess a little intelligence you should be aware I won`t. I am a true Pole, I shall never surrender, the Spirit of 44 is my life motto if you didn`t know it.

respect democracy

I always do.

wait another 3 years where you will get your chance to vote again.

You see, when out of school, I am impatient and quick-tempered, especially here. That is why I won`t wait but I officially announce and declare the following: I AM GOING TO START MY PRIVATE CAMPAIGN BEFORE 2023 ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW. hahahahahahaha how do you like it?????
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,151
Merged:

Presidential elections 2020 - Losers thread, your opinions as to why you feel you lost the election.



I thought that this thread title would be more appropriate now that the election is over to allow members to discuss why our President Duda won and the others lost the presidential 2020 elections.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,152
I AM GOING TO START MY PRIVATE CAMPAIGN BEFORE 2023 ELECTIONS RIGHT NOW

Sorry you are hurt because you lost the election

But fantastic give us the details when you start your political party.

What will you call it ?

Do you want suggestions?
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,153
Dolno, by private I meant campaigning for decent people before the next elections here, not my own party.

What a whiny little b1tch Hołownia turned out to be... he has no business in politics.

Well, I am rather neutral about him. But I have serious doubts if he is able to stand up to those professional politicians who are like mad dogs sometimes. We already had one naive guy like that, Kukiz, who let PIS get him from behind as they wished. I won`t vote for Hołownia`s party unless KO disintegrates or sth.

I loathe him

Ooops, emotions are still high.
But his program was based on anti PiS and anti KO stance so we mustn`t be surprised now.

Did you see the tv24 interview?

Nope, I don`t watch TV. I only read reports about programs in Onet and other ones. .
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,154
I meant campaigning for decent people

Like Duda ?,

Please tell why you don't think that president Duda is not a decent person?
KorkiTaczer - | 90
13 Jul 2020 #2,155
6 elements which might have contributed to Duda`s victory

Get over it. Czaskoś had all the media on his side, except public tv. I doubt he will ever match Tusk, although they are both kurduple.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,156
Children will not be taught how to make gay sex, for at least another 3 years , this is a good thing isn't it ?
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,157
Please tell why you don't think that president Duda is not a decent person?

Because he broke the Constitution
because he is a blatant liar and manipulator
because he is a hypocrite (promoted ex-communists)
because he is a puppet of PIS leader who signed all harmful laws
because he has no vision for Poland`s development
because he is a weak man who allowed others to dominate him (now it is different than the above puppet, I mean his close entourage in the Palace)

because he closed an eye to various dirty tricks which others played to promote him. (rigged debates etc)
because he is an intolerant, narrow-minded rightard

I would be really ashamed to be such a person. I wouldn`t be able to look people into eyes. That is why I am not a politician.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,721
13 Jul 2020 #2,158
And yet the majority of Polish voters chose Duda, not fagowski...
OP pawian 176 | 14,299
13 Jul 2020 #2,159
Get over it.

What makes you think I didn`t get over it???? hahaha I only wanted to share certain analysis because it is my duty as the OP. I started this thread and am responsible for its proper development. Dig for some intelligence and try to understand me. hahaha

And yet the majority of Polish voters chose Duda, not fagowski...

Yes, but it is only 2%. How much time will it take the opposition to gain these 2% ???? hahaha

Guys, you know perfectly well that 2% advantage is nothing. If Duda won with 65 - 70%, you could really be relaxed.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,541
13 Jul 2020 #2,160
That is why I am not a politician.

That is a very comprehensive list , I am glad you are not a politician, I am also glad that I am not a politician.

But your policies lost the election, your enemy has another 3 years to regroup make new laws to make it even harder for your candidates to prevail, what will you do ? , can you make it through the next 3 years ?

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