Presidential elections 2020 - your opinions about campaign, candidates

With only 18% of votes counted so far, Trzaskowski 47.9 %, Hołownia 18,6%, Duda 15,1%

Yes, exactly. But that`s not PiS` doctrine. They claim they need everything to avoid mess, chaos and wars at the top.

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That was the last straw for me too.

Sure Lenka, how could she work with Ana Brnabic with such a stance. And they would have to cooperate.

It is even one of campaign slogans. As I said, he is able to give up his PO affiliation and function as a really independent President. Duda will never cease being the puppet coz it`s inherently embedded in his character.

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Now it will be "auntie from Luftwaffe. " hahahaha I like that one.

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Rightists are able to commit a crime so that their candidate can win the elections. A member of one of polling stations added signs X to ballot cards with Trzaskowski vote, thus making them nullified. He forged 4 cards in this way.

I just love it how rightists deem themselves superior to others although they are such natural born swindlers.

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Poland, Presidential election - First round!



--- --- --- Winners --- --- --- Second round next week --- --- ---

ANDRZEJ DUDA (the current president) - 43.5%
The United Right, led by the Law and Justice party (PiS) - Catholic SOCdem. Redistribution of wealth, cultural conservatism and cringe. Euro-fussy, but not really euro-sceptic.

RAFAŁ TRZASKOWSKI (the Justin Trudeau of Poland) - 30.36%
The Civic Coalition (KO), that's rebranded Civic Platform (PO) - the radical centrist party, pretty much without views. We love EU and we're not PiS. That's it. It really is just that.

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SZYMON HOŁOWNIA (the minor TV celebrity centrist) - 13.87%
No political party. Could be in The Civic Coalition (KO). My tinfoil hat tells me he might be a deep state creation. Civic Coalition for people who dislike Civic Coalition.

KRZYSZTOF BOSAK (the terrible nacionalist) - 6.78%
Confederation Freedom and Independence (Konfederacja) - broad alliance of Korwin paleolibertarians, nationalists and more. Conservative nationalist free market monarchism. Hoppeanism?

WŁADYSŁAW KOSINIAK-KAMYSZ (the good doctor) - 2.36%
The Polish People's Party (PSL) - Immortal Agrarian mafia.

ROBERT BIEDROŃ (the gay mayor) - 2.22%
The Left - every shade of left. Old commies adopted young progressive soycialists and wear them as a camouflage.

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That`s a nice oxymoron - radical centre. I really like it after some pondering if you made a mistake or not. hahaha


You forgot to add: pro-democratic. Sth that PiS lacks completely.


You definitely forgot to add in the title: According to Kondzior. :):)


At last sth I can truly agree with. Decades ago, after having lived 1/3 of my life in communism, I vowed never to vote for communists and I have kept my word.

Gumishu wrote in Polish: you will see Trzaskowski`s united Poland like pie in the sky but it was binned for obvious reasons.

My answer:

Of course, PiS will/would refuse to acknowledge President Trzaskowski as they refused to do so about President Komorowski after 2010 elections; they abused him whenever they had a chance and rejected any offers of cooperation for the good of Poland.

In case Trzaskowski wins, it is PiS` own problem if they take part in making Poland a better place to live under his leadership or not.

PS> Gumi, can you write English in English threads, coz you cause unneccessary chaos.

You are going to suck D to prove you are not homotopic. Maybe not as you an old fossil but your children/ grandchildren will have to do it at school.

All the rest of that Marxist ideology you will gladly welcome as you are an old commie fossil.

What you write is quite illogical and senseless, partly incomprehensible as well, as everything you have written today. E.g., what is homotopic?

What is wrong, Iron? Are you experiencing any problems which distract you from remaining relevant and clear in the forum?

Fagowski isn't going to win...

What will you do if he does? :)

common grandpa try to keep up!

hahaha is that all what you can achieve today? Trying to offend me because of my age? Darling, you are wasting your time, coz I don`t care.

A little piece of advice: you definitely should strive to find some reasonable arguments to refute mine. I can see you are unable to coz you use the age reference, but at least you can try. Don`t give up.

So far, you have been losing like hell. :):)

I actually don't care who would win. Whoever win will need Serbs and Serbs will need him.

I don't need to think about it because I know he's not going to win. He'd need to basically increase his support by 50% to stand a chance. Not to mention the fact that people who supported parties like Konfederacja/Korwin, Kukiz, PSL, etc. are going to be far more likely to vote for PiS than Fagowski and liberals from PO. If he does manage to win, it'll only add to the list of sell-outs like Tusk, Schetyna, etc. that Poles despise and he'll definetely do things that will remind Poles again why they can't trust pro-EU liberals. Why did PO lose 2015 and hasn't been able to recover since? They wanted to push all that multikulti pro lgbt crap and continue selling pieces of key industries to Germany and others. Poles haven't forgotten that.

Of course it isn`t so obvious. But it`s obvious you haven`t been keeping in touch with latest news, interviews and polls.


Because they didn`t offer socialist benefits to bribe voters like PiS. Respect to PO for that.


That`s a huge generalisation. Remember, PO is a centre party which consists of various wings.


Your distrust of Germany reminds me of Dmowski`s doctrine. As far as I remember, you praised Russia and Putin many times here. Correct? Pure Dmowski.

K.Bosak has sent a message to his voters asking them to be active in the 2nd round and admitted that he will vote for a lesser evil - that is Andrzej Duda - in an interview for Express Biedrzyckiej.

And Holownia has supported Trzaskowski - well technically he said that he will vote against Duda and not for Trzaskowski. Same thing.

And Tiger Kosiniak-Kamysz is in deep depression and said nothing yet.

In other words he's ready to be absorbed by PiS....

The latest news/polls shows that Duda ended round 1 with 43%, Fagowski at 30%. He'd have to gain 50% more and to beat Duda and that just isn't going to happen.

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The 500 was only part of the piece. The fact that PO kowtowed to EU and said they'd share in Merkel's burden of bringing in useless turd worlders in - which 3/4 of Poles opposed - hurt PO and Poles haven't forgotten about that. Then there's also pushing faggotry on the Polish populace - another thing the majority of Poles oppose. Add to it all the financial scandals and selling off Poland's key industries and companies piece by piece. You may not remember the Marriot Brigades of the 90s and early 00s but we do.

If PO thought of 500 plus first to win elections they'd definitely go for it, but PiS thought of it first, went with it, and Polish people love it so all PO can do is claim that it'll ruin the Polish economy and create a huge debt load - which actually debt to GDP has been doing down...


Yes, because unlike the western european leaders he has balls. Russia doesn't take **** from anyone despite having an economy the size of Texas. They manage to gain respect/fear from every country in the world. I don't care who you are - that's admirable. At least Russia isn't trying to push a bunch of turd worlders, jihadis and lgbt ideology onto Poland like Germany is thanks to Merkel's come one come everyone policy that completely changed the demographics, safety, and society of w europe - they're just as against that crap as Poland is.

And yet it'll be Dmowski's monument that continues to stand in Warsaw - not Fagowski.

No, guys, I was talking about really latest ones. I don`t blame you coz Poles who live out of Poland are never up to date with most recent events. You are excused. :):)

So, KK has just overcome his depression and said he supports democracy and constitutional order and that his voters would behave decently. What do you think, whom does he suggest they should vote for? :):):)

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Express Biedrzyckiej? What is it? A primary school magazine? hahaha
Seriously, I haven`t seen such a declaration from him.


Nope, not only 500+. Also 13th pension and school benefit. ASAIK, also 14th pension and holiday benefit are prepared.

And don`t connect it with LGBT. Let`s be honest, if PiS suddenly declared they love LGBT and Kaczyński is a former drag queen who used to dance on the pole in most notorious clubs, people who love bribes would still vote for them. Also the EU, Germans and Merkel have nothing to do with it. It`s money which talks, Dirk, stop concocting such a big ideology out of a simple matter. hahaha


Your words about Russia are amusing considering the state of affairs between our two states. I stress: states, not ordinary people.

Brilliant Post and Summary! Post of the month if not political year . Well done!

Yes, it was funny, I admit, but mainly because it was so strongly subjective. Impartial one would be boring, indeed.

Doesn't Poland has someone like Orban? Someone who doesn't just say "I love Poland" but who does the walk? Someone who doesn't want to make Poland a US/Israel puppet state, nor EU or Russian one for that matter?

There are a few PiS politicians who would like to have Budapest in Warsaw. Fortunately, the resistance from patriotic Poles is still too big for them to take all power, like in Hungary or Russia. Poland is Poland, not Russia - suppressing independent thinking here has to take longer or is impossible.

Bosak is supported by the majority of Poles in the age group from 18 to 29.


Yes, some in Konfedracja.


Has an early dementia set on you? You don't understand posts, have no idea about internet TV and are delusional as who has been loosing like hell. Visits a specialist before it is too late

What? Do you speak of hungarization of Poland?

You still haven`t explained the problem with your homotopic, darling. :):)


Yes, the hungarization which means taking over all independent institutions in the country by an autocrat and doing what he wishes to.

Pawian, I haven't heard that Orban is repressing voices. Duda wants to sell Poland to Israel and just like our PM Borisov wants Poland to be a US puppet state (I think the way is for CEE countries to embrace a union between them plus Sweden and Finland and not be very close to USA nor Russia.

This means you need to read more about recent events.