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What does Poles think of European superstate?


smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Jun 2016 #31
With the exception of the Balkan war

EU were usurped by Clinton forcing the UN to drop bombs.
Anyway, a civil war between states forced together is quite a bit different than seperate states invading one another.
Maybe as an American your European history isn't great, so it's understandable that you woulnd't know any of this.

the Anschluß of Crimea

Ah come on, Ukraine isn't in the EU.
Nobody really cares about Ukraine, especially since the people of Crimea actually voted to become part of Russia.
You can shout they were rigged, but so was the election of George Bush Jr. It has never been proven that the Crimea election was rigged.

I'd ask you for proof, but we all know you never offer proof, or links to proof, you just have your ideas and beliefs. You never provide facts.

Prosperity was rather one-sided

You'd know a lot about that sir :D :D :D
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
28 Jun 2016 #32
Nobody really cares about Ukraine,

Spoken like a truly arrogant, blinkered and clueless West European where everything east of Germany is Lower Slobovia or some forsaken no-man's land ruled by Transylvania's Dracula. If I countereed that with "nobody really cares about the miniscule Emerald Islet", I'd be lowering myself to your single digit IQ level, so I won't.
smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Jun 2016 #33
Spoken like

Yea whatever mate.

nobody really cares about the miniscule Emerald Islet

You can't even write that properly hahahahaha, what a feckin dose you are amigo

I couldn't give less of a feck about your stupid opinion on anything. My issue with you is that you're full of crap.

You never offer links that back up your 'arguments' you never offer proof.
You just sprout sh!t constantly.
Go back and write some feckin recipes, you probably can't mess that up too easily
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
28 Jun 2016 #34
one of Spain, Italy or Poland will take lead and solidify the EU now ....continue to live in peace and relative prosperity

Exactly - but Smurf - historically, Poles never wanted peace or relative prosperity, as you put it. They only wanted to exploit their common man. They are the original capitalists - the szlachta , bands of brothers, every main town, every individual - everybody for themselves, and **** the rest of them. Poland needs to be in the EU to be a normal country, for they could never govern themselves.
smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Jun 2016 #35
Poland needs to be in the EU to be a normal country, for they could never govern themselves.

Yea, I'd go along with that.

If only they could get their house together it'd be a grand country. Please God, PiS will be ousted soon enough and Poland like the rest of the EU can get back to progression.

reddit

Yea, that was some light lunch reading.
I'm pretty much OK with all of it.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
28 Jun 2016 #36
I'd never give up Irish neutrality

Just one more evidence that you should lose your voting rights on the medical ground. Dude, If there's a friggin "super state" and French/Italians/Gerries will decide to... let's say invade Libya again or whatever else, there won't be any friggin "Irish neutrality", some German dude sitting in Belgium will make a decision and that's it, Irish... sorry "European" soldiers will have to fight in some shytholes and Irish... sorry "European" taxpayers will have to pay for that. If it turns into something big, they might even bring back the draft and send your stinking ass over there. You fools support something without having a clue what consequences it will have.

Poland needs to be in the EU to be a normal country, for they could never govern themselves.

Shut up, Polonophobic racist. As for now your "kingdom" seems to be about to break down.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
28 Jun 2016 #37
Polonophobic racist

Not my opinion, but the view of British diplomats throughout the years. I refer you to Hansard.
smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Jun 2016 #38
and French/Italians/Gerries will decide to... let's say invade Libya again or whatever else

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
Dude, stop taking drugs that make you paranoid.
Libya??? FFS

You're as mental as a box of horny badgers :D
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
28 Jun 2016 #39
but the view of British diplomats throughout the years.

One could assume that foreign diplomats residing in London could also come up with several comments on the country that over the last 70 years lost 90% of what it has gained during previous centuries, what's more is now on the edge of breaking down into pieces. But there's a difference between people and arrogant xenophobic peasants that still need a queen, lords and all that mess...

Libya??? FFS

Yeah because that was what, friggin 3 years ago ? Dude, you're a joke.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
28 Jun 2016 #40
now on the edge of breaking down into pieces.

With the help of people with right wing views like yours, you mean?
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
28 Jun 2016 #41
Huh ? With the help of madmen that are capable of doing everything to push forward their sick concepts. If people like me were in charge of this mess, the whole "EU" would be little more than free zone - then no brexit, no breakdown of the UK and no xyz nasty things that's going to happen in the coming years.

Dude, get a brain, UK was pushed out because it was an obstacle to create a friggin "super state" aka 4th Reich. And the reasons why some circles want to create that "super state" are not noble to put it mildly but you useful idiots are totally clueless to the point that dude, who support the "super state" idea at the same time praise... Irish neutrality.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
28 Jun 2016 #42
the whole "EU" would be little more than free zone

If the EU were a Free Zone, it would have done nothing for Poland.
I don't know where you were before 2004, but there was NOTHING that Poland produced pre-2004 that the other states wanted in large numbers. The reason? Lack of a widespread ISO certification.

All infrastructure that existed pre-2004 is your usual Polish crap, where gangs of co-operative workers used outmoded working practices and Polish sourced "building" materials to build roads and buildings that crumbled even as they were being built.

Do us a favour and get an education.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
28 Jun 2016 #43
If the EU were a Free Zone, it would have done nothing for Poland.

Oh my ! So it's all to "help Poland" !

I don't know where you were before 2004, but there was NOTHING that Poland produced pre-2004 that the other states wanted in large numbers. The reason? Lack of a widespread ISO certification.

Your problem is that... you're damn stupid, go check the basic facts, go to Eurostat and check the statistics, trends etc. You will find out that after the EU anschluss economic growth actually... slowed down.

So you want to tell us that Gerries want to dominate Europe via "super state" to... help Poland ? Somehow vast majority of Poles do not want to see that but oh these Gerries, they are so good, they will do all they can to make us happy. Jesus, you're nuts.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
28 Jun 2016 #44
the basic facts, go to Eurostat and check the statistics, trends etc

Cough. Not worthy of a response.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
28 Jun 2016 #45
You are simply not capable to discuss, "holy EU !" is all you can come up with. Dude, "EU" has become a tool to exploit peripheral member states and "further integration" will only bring more of that. Ever wondered why Gerries need more and more workers, while Spain has had millions jobless people since decades ? Ever wondered why "EU" push up "environmental regulations" again and again ? Perhaps not so much to "protect environment" but to support few mega corporations as SMEs are then struggling to grow and challenge them then ? You are a useful idiot, nothing else.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
28 Jun 2016 #46
"EU" has become a tool to exploit peripheral member states and "further integration" will only bring more of that.

Those States were benificiaries of EU grants, and as to exploitation, yes, I agree, Polish businesses do that, because successive governments refuse to raise the tax threshold to sensible levels. Therefore what we have is, the hungry are forced work for ridiculously low wages.

The European Union is there to protect, where it can have an input.

Ever wondered why Gerries need more and more workers, while Spain has had millions jobless people since decades ?

Well, as to why Germany's GDP is growing, and Spain is in crisis, we all remember the infamous Jeremy Clarkson broadcast from outside the Madrid central bank at three in the afternoon. It was closed for siesta. I think that says it all really.
smurf 39 | 1,981
28 Jun 2016 #47
Yeah because that was what, friggin 3 years ago

You think the EU invaded Libyia?

again, hahahahahahahahahahaah
what a dope

With the help of madmen that are capable of doing everything to push forward their sick concepts

Here, dude, we're not talking about Jarosław Kaczyński

Dude, get a brain, UK was pushed out

Sure bro, sure

Not worthy of a response.

Aye, let's just go back to ignoring him :)
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
28 Jun 2016 #48
Those States were benificiaries of EU grants

We're talking about trillions here, that in real economy, not some ************ like building aquaparks, are flowing from the peripheries to the core, "EU grants" are nothing in comparison. Now the next levels comes, let's take the "EU army", do you realize that now ~90% of purchases done by the Polish army are going to domestic companies ? Now tell me, when "EU army" arise, what will be its standard rifle, tank or truck ? Think for a while, at least try.

It was closed for siesta.

Yeah, lazy southerners, ayee... now dude, go check facts like OECD statistics on the average annual hours actually worked per worker and check it for "hard working" Germans and "lazy" Greeks, Spaniards etc.


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