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60% of Poles say Szydło's government should resign


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18 Mar 2017  #61

It's the only good thing pis ever did. I hope it keeps going.

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18 Mar 2017  #62

The 500+ programme will not end

It doesn't have to end. PiS are already talking about 5-6:1 against the Euro, meaning they can simply devalue the currency until it's worthless in real terms.
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18 Mar 2017  #63

ISIS. Are you crazy?

Yes, ISIS is the thread to the world and you are crazy if you think otherwise. Everybody who fights them deserves praising.

Szydło however is the topic and she is an unpopular premier who should go.

But she will not go no matter how much you and your regressive friends want it.
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18 Mar 2017  #64

PiS will rule for more than one cadence

Indeed, in fact the govenrment's most promising figure, econ super-hero Mateusz Morawiecki, is confident PiS will govern Poland on into the 2030s. He may well be the best replacement for szydło if PiS decide a change of PM is needed.

Poland's brilliant and inspiring Polish Development and Finance Minister Mateusz Morawiecki at G20 has called attention to the billions of which individual EU countries are being deprived by global corporate behemoths that register in Bermuda, Cyprus, Luxembourg and suchlike tax havens to avoid paying their due to the countries in which thy are doing their exploitative business. Since this is the information era, the place to start is with information-sharing because all the countries are being defrauded in this way.

His father Kornel fought the regime in the anti-communist underground, whilst Mateusz is fighting for a fair and just Poland free of the post-commie cliques that have mismanaged and ripped off the country of for a quarter-century.
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18 Mar 2017  #65

Yes, ISIS is the thread

Interesting that you try to dodge your support for Putin with side issues outside Europe.

has called attention to the billions

Not the first or the last to do so.
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18 Mar 2017  #66

Not the first or the last

But this time the ball may get rolling to eliminate that "legał" tax evasion. The guillotine and colonialism once were legal. If enough countries realise how they're being ripped off, internrational norms cold be enacted to force foreign entrepreneurs to pay their taxes to the country they are exploiting.
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18 Mar 2017  #67

whilst Mateusz is fighting for a fair and just Poland free of the post-commie cliques that have mismanaged and ripped off the country of for a quarter-century.

Does anyone else wonder why Mateusz was completely silent on the matter while working for BZWBK?

Could it be that he's simply repeating what Jarek has told him to say? The hatred of private business is a hallmark of Kaczyński, who has never worked a day in his life for a real business.
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18 Mar 2017  #68

internrational norms cold be enacted

It's called Socialism.

The hatred of private business

Indeed.
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18 Mar 2017  #69

hatred of private business

Every decent person should hate crooked business whether private, state, cooperative or whatever, and crooked lawyers, judges and anyone else for that matter. Are you in favour of multinationals ripping off host countries off via tax havens?

When he worked for a private bank he servred his bossdes as best he could. As a statesman he has the good of the nation at heart.
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18 Mar 2017  #70

Every decent person should hate crooked business

Then you'll be against crooked businesses such as PKO Bank BP, which massively increased fees and cut interest payments to clients after the bank tax was introduced, right? And you'll also be against crooked businesses such as PZU, which is granting Party members huge salaries for nothing more than turning up occasionally to meetings, right?

When he worked for a private bank he servred his bossdes as best he could

So he could accurately be described as a "bankster", right?
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18 Mar 2017  #71

against crooked businesses

If they're crooked I'm against them. But just saying they are crooked doesn't make it true. In fact in your case it is highly suspect considering that you somehow never noticed any of the scams, crooked deals and unkept promises the POO-era produced.
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18 Mar 2017  #72

Business is pretty crooked here banks especially so it's not unique to Poland. Tax havens....all of uk may become one lol. Our prime minister uses them while he takes money from the poor and gets robots to call people to collect government debt. He thinks he will be re elected, very naive. My dealings in business have led me to believe that they are more crooked here. Shock horror!
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18 Mar 2017  #73

Interesting that you try to dodge your support for Putin

Interesting how it's a lie that I dodge anything. I support Putin not less than you support Soros.
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18 Mar 2017  #74

Putin not less than you support Soros.

They're both evil wastes of human life.... a plague on both their houses!
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18 Mar 2017  #75

you'll be against

Since you're so worried about state finances, you'll surely be agaisnt PO's palriametary cabaret. They have already proposed no-confidence votes in nearly all the ministers and now it's to be in the government as a whole with Schetyna bidding for the PM's post. Of courese they have no chance of achieving that goal but a mud-slinging fest (Sejm debate) is guaranteed. A day-long sitting of the Sejm costs 1.3 milion złots, so each ill-fated no-confidence debate costs the taxpayer that much. Somehow you have yet to speak out about that financial abuse.
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18 Mar 2017  #76

They have already proposed no-confidence votes in nearly all the minister

Probably because said ministers are all crap
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19 Mar 2017  #77

@jon357
Nothing to do with minister and their efficiency. The truth is more mundane. PO has nothing at all to offer for the populace in Poland. Even their propaganda suck big time and doesn't convince anyone. Sad, ineffective and clueless nobodies.

Their only idea is barking at the heels of PiS and that what they're doing. Impotent, pointless nipping at the PiS heels.
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19 Mar 2017  #78

Even their propaganda suck

So it's about propaganda?
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19 Mar 2017  #79

More than just propaganda.
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19 Mar 2017  #80

Do expand on that brief and pointless comment, Wulky. We're all ears...
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19 Mar 2017  #81

I applaud Morawiecki's efforts for more transparent tax - this will stop abuse by both international investors and local companies. Of course he was in the g20 meeting I think at the invitation of Germany - I hope he had the good grace during a coffee break to apologise for his colleagues recent hysterical attacks on his hosts.

For all the ex Commie countries then a key step towards eliminating the use of other countries for corporate structures, is to make it easier and quicker to do business locally. Things that take hours in Netherlands or Cyprus take days and sometimes weeks in Poland and all of that time you are often in limbo and unable to move on to next stages.

A perfect example is VAT returns (for which Morawiecki is personally responsible given the current mess) - what would you do ? Wait 3-6 months for a response from a Polish biurwa or spend a few thousand euro to fly to Amsterdam and bypass the whole hassle ?
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19 Mar 2017  #82

nipping at the PiS heels

Indeed, the mangy, flea-bitten curs of PO. KOD and Petru bark, yelp and growl, but the caravan of good change just moves on.

said ministers are all crap

Regardless of what the losers cłub has to say about the current ministers, they know they cannot remove them with no-confidence proposals and yet they non-challantly keep wasting taxpayer money in a pathetic attempt at one-upmanship. Clueless wanabees all! Each one of their idiotic mud-slinging matches (no-confidence debates) costs thre taxpyer 1.3 million złotys.
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19 Mar 2017  #83

So it's about propaganda?

Indeed, the resentful losers club has absolutely nothing to offer the Polish nation except clueless and unconvincing propaganda. Their entire idoelogy, policy, tactics and strategy boil down to reactive PiS-bashing. If the govt said water was wet, they would strt cry-babying to the EUr, foreign governments and anti-Polish foreign media outlets that #%X¤?&$#ߣ*!% or some other codswallop, balderdash or malarkey.
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19 Mar 2017  #84

A perfect example is VAT returns (for which Morawiecki is personally responsible given the current mess) - what would you do ?

Yes, the "hole" in VAT has been shown to be a complete myth. Instead, all he's done is delay repayments along with some other schemes such as changing the rules for returns in the construction industry,

Interestingly, he also returned to the previous state of affairs, whereby certain professionals such as doctors are allowed to operate without a kasa fiskalna. If they're so serious about combatting fraud, why allow it?
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19 Mar 2017  #85

Maybe 60% is against, but it does not means that all these people will vote for PO or Modern. They will win again and manage it because 60% means nothing., Only thing what has matter is who has the biggest number of voters and they have more than several parties together. These 60% are pople who voted for PO, Modern, Kukiz, Korwin, SLD and so on. Fortunately nearly 70% of young poles are not liberals :) In Germany a lot of people are not satisfied with Markel, but she will win again, the same in Poland because oposition is weak and nearly done.
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19 Mar 2017  #86

Fortunately nearly 70% of young poles are not liberals :)

I wouldn't place much faith in that. If you look at previous elections, they've proven to be a remarkably unreliable voting bloc, unlike the consistent vote for socialist parties by uneducated older people. Everyone was talking in 2011 about how young people represented new, liberal Poland. When they tire (as they will) of the government's line, they'll move to a new cause.
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19 Mar 2017  #87

PO and generally KOD enjoys some kind of massive popular support

The latest CBOS support survey has shown the fallacy of POO loser thinking. Schetyna is tying to worm his way into the PM post through a no-confidence vote although he has only 28% support, presumably from only his own party stalwarths and wants to replace Szydło who enjoys the backing of 51%. Incidentally, the most support of any poltician is enjoyed by Duda (58%). Schetyna nad Petru (27%) have even fewer advocates than Kaczyński (34%). That again underscores the transparent hypocrisy and insincerity of the losers camp who insist Kaczyński should be PM knowing that he's not cut out for it. He is not a charismatic public speaker nor a day-to-day logistician but a brilliant strategist and is posted where he can do his best.

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19 Mar 2017  #88

Kaczyński should be PM knowing that he's not cut out for it.

Neither is Szydło, based on that ridiculous performance at the European Council.
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19 Mar 2017  #89

It's too bad. She's not a bad strategist herself (see the elections she won by keeping JK and company in a refrigerator). It would have been interesting to see what kind of real prime minister she would be had she been in charge of the government rather than the sad puppet she's become...
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19 Mar 2017  #90

It would have been interesting to see what kind of real prime minister she would be had she been in charge of the government rather than the sad puppet she's become...

I don't think she would have been up for the job. She's a career politician with no real world experience, but her own political career up until 2015 was absolutely average and notable for nothing. She's only in the job because she does what she's told.




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