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Poland under pressure of EU to accept more asylum seeking refugees



nothanks - | 857    
17 Jun 2017  #3,631

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It won't play out that way. The West (using mass media as their mouthpiece) will slander Poland. They will find/pay some refugee to say: "I felt no other option because racist Polaks were staring at me on the bus and my family & I feared Poland's right wing nationalist government".

It will hurt Polands booming reputation as a safe tourist location


johnny reb 13 | 2,574    
17 Jun 2017  #3,632

Just the opposite, the wealthy from the West will be seeking a safe country to raise their children and become Polish citizens.
They will increase the strength of the right wing nationalists with votes while spending their money in Poland.
The Wealthy West has watched how Socialist Progressive Ideology has failed and destroyed the other E.U. countries.
Keep Poland Polish !
nothanks - | 857    
17 Jun 2017  #3,633

Johnny, I am not speaking of Western people. Instead Western leadership. And more precisely Western Euro
Marsupial - | 978    
18 Jun 2017  #3,634

One of the only pis policies i support. Letting in hordes for centuries of usa, uk, french and whoever's elses meddling in the middle east is not on. Merkels mistake is just the latest, she had little to do with the cause.
spiritus 63 | 592    
18 Jun 2017  #3,635

What is it with Germany ?

Two world wars and now disintegration of Western culture inside Europe all within the space of 100 years !
TheOther 5 | 3,091    
18 Jun 2017  #3,636

What is it with Germany ?

1.5 million refugees/ migrants - ultimately caused by wars started by the US and Britain - were overrunning Greece and Italy, and Germany was trying to help. Divide that number by (at that time) 28 EU members, and you woud've ended up with roughly 54000 people per member state. No problem. That's what Merkel was naively counting on - solidarity of the EU to help two (or three) other members out. Didn't happen. Instead the Germans are now blamed for taking Europe down once again. But hey, as we all know, most European nations are only in it for the money anyway. Who needs friends?
Ironside 43 | 8,206    
18 Jun 2017  #3,637

were overrunning Greece and Italy

Why? Australian solution comes to mind. That would make the problem go away. Who wanted to spice things up and do a bad thing to Europe. Certain people with money, influence and commie ideology. Few names come to mind. Hey they are your ideologically comrades. Let point finger at you.
Lyzko 15 | 3,604    
18 Jun 2017  #3,638

What's with Germany??!

Are you mad? Read the papers at all?
TheOther 5 | 3,091    
18 Jun 2017  #3,639

Australian solution comes to mind

I agree. They shouldn't have let these people in. Some border control would've also been helpful.

they are your ideologically comrades

The whole problem was caused by hawkish, right wing politicians of the US and Britain in the first place. Your ideological friends, so let's rather point the finger at you...
mafketis 16 | 4,668    
18 Jun 2017  #3,640

1.5 million refugees/ migrants - ultimately caused by wars started by the US and Britain

How did the US or Britain start the Syrian war? I must have missed that... Not to mention that a very large majority of those actually arriving in Europe were not Syrian (and Iraqis and Afghanis are just as much to blame for the sorry state of their failed states as any outside meddlers are).

ermany was trying to help.

Pull the other one. That dithering mental case Merkel was all set to stop them at the German border and then she lost her nerve because.... she's a mental case. She then went around asking other countries to help cover for her famous lack of nerve and resolve.

Sorry not buying it.
TheOther 5 | 3,091    
18 Jun 2017  #3,641

How did the US or Britain start the Syrian war?

Go further east until you reach a country called Iraq. Then travel to the southwest until you arrive in Egypt and Libya. WMD and Arab Spring ring a bell?

Pull the other one.

What sounds more plausible? A crazy Merkel with an evil plan to bring down western civilization, or a naive Merkel trying to help out?
gregy741 3 | 1,077    
18 Jun 2017  #3,642

Go further east until you reach a country called Iraq. Then travel to the southwest until you arrive in Egypt and Libya. WMD and Arab Spring ring a bell?

well,US helped to facilitate condition for an armed uprising.but
there were 2 operation rooms created at the beginning of this conflict..one in Turkey and one in Jordan.in order to move foreign fighters and coordinate rebellion.train fighters ect.

its more like,US withdraw from middle east and left that geopolitics to its allies(SA,Turkey,gulf states and israel)they were the ones mainly responsible for this war.US giving full media support and make money by providing weapons training and munition.

Qatar is mainly responsible for starting Syria war,and arming rebels,the other joined later.
gregy741 3 | 1,077    
18 Jun 2017  #3,643

there are reports of massive movement of Syrian refugees coming back to Syria.Turkey opened 2 border crossing for Syrians returning home.
twitter.com/wszewko/status/876456186459062272
and according to frontex only less that 5% of so called "refugees" are Syrians. the rest are economic immigrants from asia and africa.
Poland has no obligation to allow to settle economic immigrants from those countries.we have plenty from Ukraine.
looks like Polands line of arguments is correct.help those refugees rebuild their infrastructure as they already willing to go back home.and deport illegal immigrants from Africa..

EU idiocy exposed,real refugees coming back home thanks to Assad securing his country...only fraud cockroaches flooding Europe
delphiandomine 80 | 15,938    
18 Jun 2017  #3,644

Some border control would've also been helpful.

Unfortunately, one problem with Schengen was the failure to implement a Schengen Border Control at the same time that would have been responsible for securing the external border. The problem with Greece in particular refusing to accept help would have been avoided then.
mafketis 16 | 4,668    
19 Jun 2017  #3,645

ne problem with Schengen was the failure to implement a Schengen Border Control at the same time that would have been responsible for securing the external border

How? The problem wasn't external border control per se, but the fact that thousands of people that Europe has no need for were/are determined to arrive and the antiquated and outdated laws just help them.

. The problem with Greece in particular refusing to accept help would have been avoided then

All an external Schengen sent to Greece would have accomplished was bringing in more pseudo-refugees more quickly. The laws are broken and until they're changed the hordes will be at the gate (as it were).
Marsupial - | 978    
19 Jun 2017  #3,646

Well we see the results of this in uk and usa and in censored pseudo democracy of sweden. Here in Australia they say once a week ' we foiled an attack'. Failed experiment from hell. Don't let them in! After poland lets them in and they leave and cause carnage next door the blame will also be shifted back to poland. The solution is not to treat the disease, it's to never catch it in the first place.
spiritus 63 | 592    
19 Jun 2017  #3,647

What's with Germany??!Are you mad? Read the papers at all?

What is your point ?
Lyzko 15 | 3,604    
19 Jun 2017  #3,648

For starters, she's still the powerhouse engine of Europe's economy, like her or not:-)
Dirk diggler 4 | 792    
19 Jun 2017  #3,649

Well rather merkel is the leader of Europe's economic powerhouse but I wouldn't necessarily say she herself is the engine driving the powerhouse. Sure she shapes policies and all but there's much out of her control.
spiritus 63 | 592    
20 Jun 2017  #3,650

For starters, she's still the powerhouse engine of Europe's economy, like her or not:-)

I can't argue with that statement but the thing is........I wasn't arguing that point anyway !

I was making the point that one country i.e. Germany has spawned two world wars and now in peacetime are intent on flooding Europe with migrants who have no legal right to enter Europe. When the media and governments start using the terms "migrants" and "refugees" as if the two are inter-changeable then you know we have REAL problems ahead of us.
Dirk diggler 4 | 792    
20 Jun 2017  #3,651

Well us was built w migrants of all kinds. I think it just needs to be handled appropriately but the numbers and changes that come with a large migration should be constantly studied, analysed, debated, etc. When Germany had migrations of poles Turks Romanians Russians etc the ppl complained but eventually saw it as a net benefit. Back then though there weren't so many terrorist attacks in the 70s 80s 90s n the ones that did exist were mainly by right and left groups like black September and also ppl hijacking planes in iron curtain countries and flying to w germany or some democratic euro country.

You also have to understand that many Germans today have a sort of worldview of helping ppl, not being selfish, a tad socialist etc. Of course not all Germans are like that but a good portion of them are. Its not that they're any better or worse just a different view.
dolnoslask 1 | 1,142    
20 Jun 2017  #3,652

These are the people that Merkel wants out of Germany and into Poland, we can all see why she wants rid of them.

Can anyone here tell me why these high risk migrants should be let into Poland.

Woman, 28, is 'raped nine times by three asylum seekers who filmed the brutal attack on her mobile phone after ambushing her at a town fair in Germany'

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4620972/Hungarian-woman-28-raped-asylum-seekers-Germany.html#ixzz4kYpARzGd
spiritus 63 | 592    
20 Jun 2017  #3,653

You also have to understand that many Germans today have a sort of worldview of helping ppl

The migrants who helped build America largely came across legally with paperwork. The migrants I am talking about are coming across illegally but we are granting them quasi-legal status when they arrive just because they had the brass balls to try. That can't be right.

I understand that Germany has an inherent guilt complex and if they want to be a haven for migrants from around the world then I have no problem. The truth however is that Germany is the driving force behind the European federation and are applying pressure to other EU states to also take in migrants not to mention the fact that the EU has open borders practically anyway so migrants in Germany are free to apply to live in other EU states too.
jon357 67 | 12,680    
20 Jun 2017  #3,654

The migrants who helped build America largely came across legally with paperwork.

In fact very few had any sort of paperwork or for that matter literacy. Most also had to be deloused, had very different value systems to the earlier settlers (not to mention the native population) and most were fleeing poverty.
nothanks - | 857    
20 Jun 2017  #3,655

Woman, 28, is 'raped nine times by three asylum seekers who filmed the brutal attack on her mobile phone after ambushing her at a town fair in Germany'

I am not going to victim blame in this scenario. But in many of these cases Western and Northern women are very gullible - engaging in conversation or even following/joining strange ethnic men to flats/hotels.
dolnoslask 1 | 1,142    
20 Jun 2017  #3,656

Western and Northern women are very gullible -

Regardless of the circumstances that lead to a rape , when a women says no , IT MEANS NO.
delphiandomine 80 | 15,938    
20 Jun 2017  #3,657

In fact very few had any sort of paperwork or for that matter literacy.

Yes, it's one reason why Americans have such strange surnames, because they were often unable to write their own names and were relying on the immigration officer to spell it for them. There's actually a lot of parallels between the emigration to America up until WW1 and the current crisis.
spiritus 63 | 592    
20 Jun 2017  #3,658

In fact very few had any sort of paperwork or for that matter literacy

They came on ships-were they not on the shipping manifest ??
Lyzko 15 | 3,604    
20 Jun 2017  #3,659

Germany's changing her tune as well, Spritus ol' man, don't you worry!
Bieganski 12 | 792    
21 Jun 2017  #3,660

you woud've ended up with roughly 54000 people per member state. No problem.

Only 54,000 people per member state, huh? No problem, you say?

You obviously never heard of chain migration and the routine abuse of Article 8 of the European Convention on Human Rights by so-called refugees.

Article 8 - Right to respect for private and family life

1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right

Now, case in point - Germany:

Muslim Migrant with Four Wives and 23 Children Receives $390,000 a Year in Benefits

since polygamy is prohibited in Germany, he had to choose...his "main" wife...to ensure...all his children [got]...benefits...the state provides to refugees...Ghazia claims he would "like to work" but...familial burdens make it impossible...Now he spends his time visiting his various families

breitbart.com/london/2016/10/26/germany-muslim-migrant-four-wives-23-children-receives-390000-year-benefits

But hey, as we all know, most European nations are only in it for the money anyway. Who needs friends?

No, it's the economic migrants who are only in it for the money. They don't need friends either especially when they each got huge population-replacement level families and legions of Soros' Eurocrat drones willing to let them bleed Europe dry.




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