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AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #241
Poor Hungary...sad to see them go--Germany was lucky to stay alive. Germany is flat, but they're like a mild rash that won't go away.

Even sadder that Poland exited...maybe more time under Sousa will yield better results in the future. I'm beginning to understand Polish pessimism more and more with each passing tournament.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #242
Germany is flat, but they're like a mild rash that won't go away.

We have seen three Germany's so far.....against France, against Portugal, against Hungary, it has always been like a totally different team.

I have no idea which team comes out to play in Wembley!

I'm beginning to understand Polish pessimism more and more with each passing tournament.

I truly don't!

Poland has all the same mental and physical qualities Germany has...with first class players (Lewandowski).....they even lend some to us (Klose, Podolski, heh:).....but they somehow never make it big....WHY????
Miloslaw 19 | 4,642
24 Jun 2021 #243
I have no idea which team comes out to play in Wembley!

Me neither, it will be interesting.

.but they somehow never make it big....WHY????

Interesting question.They did have some very good teams back in the seventies though and did well.
mafketis 36 | 10,679
24 Jun 2021 #244
they somehow never make it big....WHY????

The pattern I noticed years ago that they might play very well up to the point where the other team scores.... and then they completely fall apart. Is that related to a culture of pessimism? I dunno, mebbe. It's a pattern I've noticed more in Poland than in the US: put in a pretty good effort and then quit the very first time anything goes wrong.

On the other hand I read somewhere that there's a pretty direct (not perfect but still pretty consistent) of hours of sunlight a year and quality of soccer teams (since it's best learned and perfected on outdoor fields) which is why smaller countries in the south of Europe often punch well above their weight and why Russia (for example) despite a distinguished sporting culture and a large population is consistently pretty mediocre. They usually qualify and maybe make past the group stage and then crash out.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #245
culture of pessimism?

But.....why?

They didn't lose the last World War! ;)

of hours of sunlight a year and quality of soccer teams

...hmmm....I would guess western Poland should have the same kind of sun hours like eastern Germany at least....
mafketis 36 | 10,679
24 Jun 2021 #246
But not the euros.... financial investments can make up some for the sunlight deficit (like Germany, Netherlands or teams from the UK)
gumishu 13 | 6,133
24 Jun 2021 #247
They didn't lose the last World War! ;)

there is a Polish saying: kpisz czy o drogę pytasz?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #248
financial investments can make up some for the sunlight deficit

True dat! :)

kpisz czy o drogę pytasz?

....definitely asking!!!
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #249
We have seen three Germany's so far.....against France, against Portugal, against Hungary, it has always been like a totally different team.

You could even say within a single game we see three Germanys.

Poland has all the same mental and physical qualities Germany has...with first class players (Lewandowski).....but they somehow never make it big....WHY????

Hence, the pessimism. Quality, but still fall flat. It begins to feel like you're cursed. Few months back I read an interview with Sousa, and he made the point that his first order of business is to get the team to believe they can win. I liked some of things I've seen from this team, so I'm optimistic about 2022.

play very well up to the point where the other team scores.... then they completely fall apart. Is that related to a culture of pessimism?

But, they didn't fall apart yesterday when things went bad, they kept their composure and fought hard until the end.

there is a Polish saying: kpisz czy o drogę pytasz?

Is that translated as: The war we lost twice?

But not the euros.... financial investments can make up some for the sunlight deficit (like Germany, Netherlands or teams from the UK)

But does financial investments give national teams that much better an edge? It certainly does with the clubs--you can buy talent from all over the world. But, not so with national teams.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #250
financial investments give national teams that much better an edge

I think so yes!

More money can buy better players, that brings clubs high into the national and international competitions = so also the homegrown players can gain invaluable experiences at the highest levels, play with and against all the famous hot shots and bring all that knowledge back to the national team!

Lewandowski for example has won it all on the club level with Bayern München...

transfermarkt.com/robert-lewandowski/erfolge/spieler/38253
Crnogorac3 4 | 816
24 Jun 2021 #251
euro

Whoever wins the match between England & Germany at Wembley has a pretty much clear path all the way to the final!
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #253
@BB

So, it's more about the national teams that have more players who play in the best leagues?

@Crno & BB

I also wouldn't discount the Dutch.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #254
So, it's more about the national teams that have more players who play in the best leagues?

It's only logical, isn't it?

A talent is forged in the fire, against the very best.....

....just in....in the worst case there will be barely any german fans in Wembley! All guests need to be in quarantine first (till up to 10 days!!!) + a negative QCR test...

And the travel back won't be any easier...till up to 14 days quarantine before they can enter Germany again (even with negative QCR test, also for already vaccinated people)

Crazy! 😒
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #255
It's only logical, isn't it?

Completely logical!!! Also means it's not a matter of the financial resources a national team has at its disposal, because players develop at the club level not the national team level, correct?

Crazy! 😒

Very!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #256
Absolutely!

The clubs make the player, the calling into the national team is after all only the cherry at the top. A player wouldn't be chosen without having made a name for himself already, and where does he do that? In his club of course.

Of course, if the national team has some money it can invest in the whole training environment, in specialists, clothing, busses, hotels and all that, it won't hurt! :)
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #257
..in the worst case there will be barely any german fans in Wembley!

So, you're predicting your countrymen to make it, at least, to the semis?
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #259
Maybe you should go out, but I'm thinking it's you Deutschers and the Dutch in the semis. You Deutschlanders have a football horseshoe stuck up your a$$es. :D
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #260
We lost that "horseshoe" in 2018.....and this time it's not exactly a "dreamteam" either.

At least it's the last game for Löw, after him we have a real chance for a new beginning!

Na ja....lets wait and see :)
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #261
We lost that "horseshoe" in 2018

Nah, you simply misplaced it. :)

Have they already named Löw's replacement?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,738
24 Jun 2021 #262
Yup...Hansi Flick! He is already poised and ready to take over! :)

(He was there 2014 in Brazil as Löw's assistant....and later chef coach by Bayern Munich)
Novichok 4 | 7,353
24 Jun 2021 #263
How much do they pay to watch a bunch of multimillionaires running after a round ball? With all that money, can't they get one each and be happy?
AntV 5 | 586
24 Jun 2021 #264
Sounds like the type of pedigree and results to make German fans content...for now.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,642
25 Jun 2021 #265
Whoever wins the match between England & Germany at Wembley has a pretty much clear path all the way to the final!

I was thinking the same thing.
AntV 5 | 586
25 Jun 2021 #266
I would too, but the Dutch occupy the same path--that makes the path less clear, IMO.
Lenka 5 | 3,407
27 Jun 2021 #267
Poland fighting for gold in volleyball Nations League. First set for Poland :)
Joker 2 | 2,275
27 Jun 2021 #268
First set for Poland :)

I hope they win! Powozenia!!
Lenka 5 | 3,407
27 Jun 2021 #269
2-1 fir Brazi and the last set really didn't look good for us :(
Miloslaw 19 | 4,642
27 Jun 2021 #270
I hope they win!

What Poland lack in football skills, they make up for in Volleyball :-)


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