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23 Shale Wells Drilled This Year Alone in Poland - 41 More to Go...


jasondmzk
11 Jul 2012 #1
Over 40 shale gas wells to be drilled this year - So far, 23 shale gas wells have been drilled in Poland. According to the Ministry of Environment, companies will drill at least 41 more wells by the end of this year, wyborcza.biz reported. This should shed more light on the country's gas potential. "The drilling continues basically all the time. As the country's chief geologist, I am very glad that shale gas searching has accelerated recently," said Deputy Environment Minister Piotr Woźniak. The more wells we make in a short period of time, the faster we will get a confirmation of our forecasts regarding shale gas resources," he added. According to the Polish Geological Institute, Poland's shale gas reserves stand at between 0.35 and 0.77 trillion cubic meters. License-holders are obliged to drill at least 122 wells by 2021.

Business is business, and jobs are jobs. But there are some environmentalists out there who consider this little more than a systematic rape of Poland's natural resources. Personally, I'm torn. Anything that weans the Poles off the teat of Mother Russia, and makes German pipeline prices more competitive sounds good to me in theory. But once these lands are annexed, and milked for all their worth, they're gone forever.
pgtx 29 | 3,146
11 Jul 2012 #2
Link?
OP jasondmzk
11 Jul 2012 #3
Yes, certainly. The above was a compendium of several sources, but I think you'll find the most relevant items herein:

(Reuters) - Poland, Europe's shale gas pioneer, expects companies to drill at least 41 more wells this year to shed more light on the country's gas potential.
The environment ministry, which has granted 111 rights to drill for shale gas to companies including Chevron and Exxon Mobil, also said on Friday there were "a few tens" of new requests for exploration licences awaiting approval.

uk.reuters.com/article/2012/07/06/shale-poland-wells-idUKL6E8I65J520120706
rybnik 18 | 1,454
11 Jul 2012 #4
Over 40 shale gas wells to be drilled this year - So far, 23 shale gas wells have been drilled in Poland.

ExxonMobil high-tailed it out of Poland after only drilling 2 wells leaving folks scratching their heads
naturalgaseurope.com/exxonmobil-leaves-poland-shale-gas
tomski 1 | 12
11 Jul 2012 #5
I work in the oil and gas industry, shale gas - fraking is bad. To bad they are doing it, although I can understand why.
Meathead 5 | 469
11 Jul 2012 #6
It depends how deep the wells are drilled and the geology.

Anything that weans the Poles off the teat of Mother Russia, and makes German pipeline prices more competitive sounds good to me in theory

Exactly!

But once these lands are annexed, and milked for all their worth, they're gone forever.

By that time they'll find other resources for energy. Just recently they have a method for converting coal into ethanol, something Poland should pursue.
jon357 74 | 22,054
11 Jul 2012 #7
I work in the oil and gas industry, shale gas - fraking is bad.

Same here. And yes, fracking is always bad - there's no way to do it safely or cleanly.
smurf 39 | 1,971
11 Jul 2012 #8
new (short) video from the director of the Gasland movie, please watch it, fracking is incredibly dangerous for the environment. Many casings for the pipes crack and let harmful gas and chemicals into the drinking water supply. Please, this is very important, get in touch with local members of government, local and national and put pressure on them to stop fracking. We don't want this beautiful country ruined by pollution.

youtube.com/watch?v=XWJwcuQK_Dg
OP jasondmzk
11 Jul 2012 #9
Let's not forget, the U.S.G.S has recently concluded the possibility of several fracking-related earthquakes. This stuff screams "HAZARDOUS!" on nearly every level.
Polonius3 994 | 12,367
28 Aug 2013 #10
Merged: Shale gas flowing in Lębork

The hole near the Lęborka in Pomerania in over a month is mined shale gas .

As reported by "Rzeczpospolita" , a success which approximates Poland to the industrial production of this raw material. From the newspaper that the borehole , which made ​​the company Lane Energy Poland , mined approx. 8,000 cubic meters of gas per day.

- This is very good news for the Polish and the European petroleum geology - says Piotr Wozniak, Deputy Minister of Environment and chief geologist of the country , which met on August 23 in the hole with engineers Lane Energy Poland .


Lane Enegry Poland has tapped a shale-oil deposit in hte Lębork area up on the Baltic coast. It is providing 8,000 cubic metres of oil per diem.

Could this be the start of something big that will liberate Poland from or at least lessen its dependence on Moscow?.
Sparks11 - | 334
28 Aug 2013 #11
I co najważniejsze: po krótkiej stymulacji gaz wypływa samodzielnie od ponad miesiąca.

Hmm... Unfortunately that "krótkiej stymulacji" is probably toxic chemicals dumped into the earth. Shale gas mining is ruining parts of my home state and making people sick. I truly hope that it is shut down in Poland and all of Europe before the same happens here. I wonder how long it will be before people start showing up at the doctors with mysterious rashes, scratchy throats and eyes etc.
smurf 39 | 1,971
28 Aug 2013 #12
Nothing good will come of Shale, nothing.
Watch Gaslands. Educate yourselves and stop believe every cock and bull story feed to you by a biased media, who are the b!tches (dependent on advertisement money) of powerful lobby groups and multinationals.

Learn and wake the fuq up.

Shale has decimated parts of America, ruining drinking water and killing countless animals. But the sheeple just continue to stare at their tv/computer screens safe in the knowledge that the government would neither sell them out nor their health for an injection of quick cash.

Shameful goings on, utterly disgusting.
Rysavy 10 | 307
28 Aug 2013 #13
I think there was conversation on this a few months ago. Can Poland afford the scale of environmental damage that greedy stripping will cause (I d like to believe every precaution and common good is involved.. but I'm a realist)?

Is independence short run worth the cost?
partisan
28 Aug 2013 #14
ExxonMobil high-tailed it out of Poland after only drilling 2 wells leaving folks scratching their heads

The test wells drilled in Poland after they hyped this as the next shale revolution produced gas that was 50% nitrogen. Industry standard is less than 1%, although you can clean gas that is up to 6% contaminated.

Shale gas recovery technology is really old, actually. The US government decided to subsidize this drilling during the late Bush years and now they can't figure out how to get out of this mess. One idea is to sell to Europe where prices are higher (because the USA does not use natural gas very much), but the investments there will cost trillions.
dingle
28 Aug 2013 #15
It will all of been sold in shady deals where 1 guy gets rich and everyone else gets dick
jon357 74 | 22,054
29 Aug 2013 #16
That's business for you.

The state will get the licensing money. however since fracking isn't labour-intensive and transporting the energy relatively straightforward, there isn't much benefit from upstream production for the locals unfortunate enough to have it near their homes.
goofy_the_dog
29 Aug 2013 #17
lots of gazprom friends here hehehe
are you guys from instytut obywatelski?
;)
i want poland to be indepedent ... the first step is to free ourselves frlrom overpriced gas from kremlin.
smurf 39 | 1,971
29 Aug 2013 #18
i want poland to be indepedent

Then as usual Goof, you need to research more on the topic.

Estimate put Poland's shale gas at only lasting between 50-100 years. Not exactly independence is it.
As a poster pointed about above some of this gas is 50% nitrogen.
Shale will be a complete and utter waste of money and lead to nothing but the death of livestock, wild animals, plants, rivers, trees and the complete decontamination of drinking water in fracking areas.

Educate yourself.
poland_
29 Aug 2013 #19
Goof, you need to research more on the topic.

The director of Gasland Josh Fox honesty has come into question, you may want to do a little more research before using something as a reference.

Poland needs to grow its clean energy market this is the future.
smurf 39 | 1,971
29 Aug 2013 #20
director of Gasland

yea, a smear campaign lead by the gas companies.
That has been shown in the follow up short sequel video.

this is the future

No, you are wrong.
It will lead to SFA money being earned for Poland, as most of the player will be foreign companies coming into Poland, since Polish companies haven't got a clue how to run this kind of 'business'. the profits will not stay in Poland, if you believe they will.......well.... just wait and see.

As a poster identified above, SFA job will actually be created.
The benefits in no way, shape or form outweigh the disadvantages of fracking.
Over 700 chemical are released into the earth during the process, you support that?
Really?
Honestly?
You are totally cool with the contamination of drinking water, the deaths of livestock and the destruction of the living environment?

While most forward-thinking countries are looking at wind, wave & solar power (Poland has a large coastal area that can be used for the first 2, while sunshine is plentiful with Poland's nice climate) to secure easy, cheap & clean energy for the long term, Poland is typically looking to make a quick buck. That's why this country will always lag behind Europe's main players; its inherent short-sightedness.
poland_
29 Aug 2013 #21
yea, a smear campaign lead by the gas companies.
That has been shown in the follow up short sequel video.

I am not pro fracking, although I do believe if you are going to make a documentary attacking a powerful industry with the government on their side, then cross the t's and dot the i's and then do some more. Josh Fox more than likely had good intentions in Gasland 1 although he was naive and left himself open to scrutiny with his mistakes, lets just say he no Michael Moore.

No, you are wrong.

Some how I doubt that I have spent the last six months researching the market in Poland and we are now investing in our first project as the timing is perfect.
smurf 39 | 1,971
29 Aug 2013 #22
the timing is perfect.

Good luck with it man :)

Unless it's got something to do with fracking though :P
jon357 74 | 22,054
29 Aug 2013 #23
The danger is the way it's licensed. If the licensed only permitted extraction from deep reservoirs there's no real danger. The Gasland film was about extraction from shallower reservoirs.

After all, Poland fracks anyway at its few Baltic rigs, and the UK has been doing it for decades offshore.

The biggest problem is that the licence holders will take whatever is in their sector, regardless of how near the surface it is.
poland_
29 Aug 2013 #24
Good luck with it man :)

Cheers.

Unless it's got something to do with fracking though :P

I am of the opinion the whole fracking industry will end in tears in Poland, these landowners in the north who are leasing the land don't have a clue what they are letting themselves in for in the future.

After all, Poland fracks anyway at its few Baltic rig

The rigs are all over the country Jon, not just in the baltic. In fact there is a rig on the 'Zakopianka' about 6-7 klm before Zakopane I believe.

rt.com/business/poland-shale-gas-fracking-europe-154/

Poland's potential shale gas reserves are extensive, stretching along a belt from the northern coastal area between Słupsk and Gdańsk, eastwards through Warsaw and on towards South Eastern Lublin and Zamość.
jon357 74 | 22,054
30 Aug 2013 #25
The rigs are all over the country Jon, not just in the baltic. In fact there is a rig on the 'Zakopianka' about 6-7 klm before Zakopane I believe.

I did actually know that ;-)

The point I'm making, however, is that they've been doing it for ages in the offshore rigs they have in the Baltic Sea.

The danger is not fracking offshore reservoirs or even fracking deep onshore reservoirs - it is when (as happened in the US) they frack reservoirs closer to the surface.
Wroclaw Boy
30 Aug 2013 #26
Poland's potential shale gas reserves are extensive, stretching along a belt from the northern coastal area between Słupsk and Gdańsk, eastwards through Warsaw and on towards South Eastern Lublin and Zamość.

I bet you and the other shareholders have had your grubby hands all over that one Warszawski, if the returns were there you'd be in no matter what, wouldn't you?

we are now investing in our first project as the timing is perfect.

What kind of renewable, if its wind what are the planning authorities like over there? I have a large interest in wind power here and the anti wind turbine crew along with local parish councils are enough to drive anybody mad. Its the snobs who are the biggest obstacles, theyre all for free abundant energy, but tell you what if they will be able to see them during their Sunday walks....hell hath no fury.

I did actually know that ;-)

Ahh Jon where have you been hiding, threatened anybody with court action lately? and how are the genetically modified food shares coming along? eat much cancer causing frankenfood do yah Jon? you must be a big fan considering you have shares in Monsanto.
jon357 74 | 22,054
30 Aug 2013 #27
I bet you and the other shareholders have had your grubby hands all over that one Warszawski, if the returns were there you'd be in no matter what, wouldn't you?

What's so wrong with that? And I suspect Warszawski's hands are immaculately clean.

the anti wind turbine crew along with local parish councils are enough to drive anybody mad.

This much I agree with. Those people just don't like other people making money. The industrial North has provided the UK with a very good living for centuries - now it's the Home Counties' turn to get the industrial landscape.

Ahh Jon where have you been hiding

Hiding? Now where might someone go for a fortnight in August? Answers on a postcard...

threatened anybody with court action lately?

If some online doylan accuses me of a crime connected with my work and it remains on the forum, they'll find it's a promise not a threat.

you have shares in Monsanto.

I just bought some in Halliburton too.
Wroclaw Boy
30 Aug 2013 #28
What's so wrong with that?

It has something to do with polluting our water supply in the name of profit Jon. How would you explain the Fookushima (lol the spell check wouldnt allow the actual word) disaster right now Jon? its difficult getting accurate info on the actual damage but we have catastrophic amounts of radio active water pouting straight into the Pacific. How would you describe that..........humm let me guess:

That's business for you.

Jon you are a single gay man who hops from one country to another in the name of money and men. You have no direct family, you will never have children, you will not feel a sense of responsibility to those you love as a father would. So what do you have left, uhh ha thats right the money. Fracking, Monsanto, Oil. Your ignorance is disgusting.

I just bought some in Halliburton too.

Back tracking or wind up merchant? That's the thing isnt it, we have a liar in our midst, problem with liars is that you cant trust a thing they say. I believe you do have shares in Monsanto though, its only a matter of time before you attempt to defend them. As you did with other key issues weve discussed recently.
jon357 74 | 22,054
30 Aug 2013 #29
It has something to do with polluting our water supply in the name of profit Jon.

Read the above - the bit about shallow and deep reservoirs.

How would you explain the Fookushima

They're fracking there since when?

a single gay man hops from one country to another in the name of money and men.

For a change you've got something 25% right. Gay - yes and very happy about it, single - no, 'hops' from country to country - no, in search of money - I get a salary as do all workers, in search of men - no.

you have no direct family, you will never have children, you will not feel a sense of responsibility to those you love as a father would

Wrong on all three counts, which I suppose is par for the course for you

Back tracking

Back tracking how?

Your ignorance is disgusting.

Considering there's barely a truthful statement in your entire post and you seem to think that Fukushima is something to do with hydrocarbon extraction, it seems you were looking in a mirror when you wrote that.
poland_
30 Aug 2013 #30
I bet you and the other shareholders have had your grubby hands all over that one Warszawski, if the returns were there you'd be in no matter what, wouldn't you?

We are ethical investors WB.

What kind of renewable

It is not the time to discuss our projects we still have negotiations going on. Loose lips sink ships an all that.

What's so wrong with that? And I suspect Warszawski's hands are immaculately clean.

People invest according to their risk profile, I don't invest in the stock market as I believe the risks outweigh the rewards.There was a time when I would have gambled on two ants racing,those days are behind me now.


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