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Scandals, conflicts, tensions, arguments - real life examples from Poland


gumishu 11 | 5,017
29 Oct 2019 #211
it seems that Marian "Mack Daddy" Banaś, PiS's idea of an honest man is not... exactly..... that.

may I remind you the the former head of NIK faces appointed by PO and company faces charges for his actions in office
Lenka 3 | 1,441
29 Oct 2019 #212
And that makes it ok?
How long will PiS have to rule to become responsible for their mistakes?
gumishu 11 | 5,017
29 Oct 2019 #213
And that makes it ok?

I haven't said it makes anything ok - I never heard of the Banaś guy before - he probably wasn't screened enough by the special forces - if PiS could remove him they probably would because hi case is a thorn in PiS side - the thing is they can't - they can try persuading him to step down but he has so far shown no desire to
Lenka 3 | 1,441
29 Oct 2019 #214
But instead of getting to know his case and what happened there you jumped on PO straight away as if that was any argument in Banas case.

I wonder if there ever comes a time when we as a society will be able to actually judge such actions on merit and leaving behind our political preferences
mafketis 21 | 7,379
29 Oct 2019 #215
jumped on PO straight away as if that was any argument

What else do PiS supporters have? They can't point to any real accomplishments and deflect any criticism by squawking 'PO bad! PO bad! PO bad!!!!!'

I never heard of the Banaś guy before

This admission does not make you sound terribly well... informed....
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,402
29 Oct 2019 #216
Hmmmm how about rising wages, greater tax revenues, social programs, tons of companies opening huge facilities in poland, strong gdp, and most importantly keeping the kebab and pedalstwo out
mafketis 21 | 7,379
29 Oct 2019 #217
how about

No, PO was more responsible for that. If half the charges against PO had been true then Poland would still be mired in a deep recession.... economies just don't improve that rapidly on their own.

Oh and Banaś was buddy buddy with one of the kingpins of the VAT mafia that PiS campaigned against so.... hypocrites.

keeping the kebab and pedalstwo

Well you'll be happy to know that PiS members in the EP refused to vote in favor of a resolution condemning repression against gay people in Uganda (including the introduction of capital punishment).

But that actually makes them closer to kebab governments like Saudi Arabia or Iran... great company....
gumishu 11 | 5,017
29 Oct 2019 #218
This admission does not make you sound terribly well... informed....

do you know who Krzysztof Kwiatkowski is - if not that makes you much less informed than me
mafketis 21 | 7,379
29 Oct 2019 #219
who Krzysztof Kwiatkowski is

Some guy who didn't let gangsters run a vvhorehouse in his property?
Ziemowit 12 | 3,566
29 Oct 2019 #220
Tell them something on the wrongdoings of PiS and they will immediately tell you all about the wrongdoings of PO. But the 2015 election should have brought change to Polish politics, a good change!

So what change is it if we now and again have PiS politicians in the steps of politicians they wanted to wipe out from the Polish political scene because of their not very good deeds?
mafketis 21 | 7,379
29 Oct 2019 #221
the 2015 election should have brought change

they have nothing against blatant corruption and thieving.... they just want "their" guys to be the ones doing it...
delphiandomine 83 | 17,719
1 Nov 2019 #222
V4 over the past 4-5 years

Largely based on outsourcing and EU membership. It's not really a miracle at all, just the result of neoliberalism (putting jobs in cheaper countries) and the EU providing a legal structure for those companies to operate in, as well as the EU pumping in fiscal transfers. Remove all three, and the V4 take a nosedive.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,402
2 Nov 2019 #223
Yes and now v4 cpuntries are faring better than w eurppe


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