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Russia, Poland ready agreement on visa-free travel


David_18 68 | 982
23 Jun 2010  #1
Russia and Poland are readying an agreement on reciprocal visa-free travel by the two countries' border area residents.

Is it really that smart to open the borders in the Königsberg area?

english.ruvr.ru/2010/06/23/10489976.html
allacces1 3 | 20
23 Jun 2010  #2
good idea...

why not? help your former colonial master to get easy access to the European union, so they can import the mafia and their prostitutes to places like UK, Germany and France.
Wiedzmin_fan - | 79
23 Jun 2010  #3
so they can import the mafia and their prostitutes to places like UK, Germany and France.

I think it's a little too late for that. Criminals most likely have easier access to visas, permits and whatnot - they just bribe their way through the bureaucracy. It's the regular folks who have it tough.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
23 Jun 2010  #4
It's the regular folks who have it tough.

We're going to get flooded by Russians...
wildrover 98 | 4,452
24 Jun 2010  #5
I just want to be flooded by one Russian.... The lovely lady i am in love with who lives in Moscow... I guess its not going to be any easier for her to come and visit me...?
Velund 1 | 395
24 Jun 2010  #6
We're going to get flooded by Russians...

I suspect that gas stations along the Russian side of the border will be flooded with Poles from neighbour towns instead. ;)
Seanus 15 | 19,706
24 Jun 2010  #7
It's a corollary of Smolensk. I would like to see more Russians here for sure. I just need my Polish citizenship and I may be able to hop across to Russia without a cumbersome visa.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
24 Jun 2010  #8
I suspect that gas stations along the Russian side of the border will be flooded with Poles from neighbour towns instead. ;)

Yeah but the Russians are going to stay and while its OK to do with to Brits its not OK doing it to Poland:P
alexw68
24 Jun 2010  #9
Not if they want their engines to last beyond 5000 km. That stuff is evil :)
Velund 1 | 395
24 Jun 2010  #10
Already over 120000 on odometer of my Ford Taurus, purchased one imported from UAE with 40000 there. Since then - no any problems with engine, no any fuel additives ever used. Location - 20 km northwest from Moscow. ;)
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
24 Jun 2010  #11
allacces1

so they can import the mafia and their prostitutes to places like UK

You're really not that smart are you? Russian mafia is already widespread in the UK along with prostitutes from all over the globe...

We're going to get flooded by Russians...

Isnt it great - all those highly educated Ruskies coming over willing to work for 3zl an hour :D Just think how grateful your businesses will be for these hard working people who will be willing to take the jobs that you lazy Poles wont do ;0)
jwojcie 2 | 763
24 Jun 2010  #12
Królewiec region is so small (about half milion of people) that it is worth a try. The only thing I'm affraid of are medical issues, because they had really bad statistics over there with AIDS and so on.
Sokrates 8 | 3,346
24 Jun 2010  #13
Królewiec region is so small (about half milion of people) that it is worth a try.

No its not, Królewiec is like Africa, say hello to 100+ thousand illegal workers and kiss our growing economy goodbye.

Isnt it great - all those highly educated Ruskies coming over willing to work for 3zl an hour :D

Yyyeah the problem is that Królewiec region is the cesspool of Russia, its THE poorest region of an already poor country, these people are just going to all pour over here, also the place has the highest amount of HIV infected people in Europe matched only by some African states.

Just think how grateful your businesses will be for these hard working people who will be willing to take the jobs that you lazy Poles wont do ;0)

Then they'll also take the jobs we will do and we'll be in a sh*tter we put you guys together with a small army of Pakis, Asians and n*ggers.

Not if they want their engines to last beyond 5000 km. That stuff is evil :)

No more then our stuff, oddly enough fuel is one of the things they do not cheat on.
Velund 1 | 395
24 Jun 2010  #14
fuel is one of the things they do not cheat on

Here WAS some problems with this, of course, especially in southern regions, but crooks usually gets what they deserve quite fast. Main thing was adding some octane number increasing additives to fuel with octane number 80 and selling it as 92 (as you can imagine it is nearly impossible to do at a gas station, so usually this was the "business" of small wholesale dealers, they then sold the mix to independent gas stations, with a counterfeit certificates or certificates issued for another lot of fuel). As I can remember there was no such problems with a "branded" gas stations like Lukoil, Sibneft.

Another thing (also at the south) was "chechen petrol" that was made in Chechnya from oil stolen from pipelines using some "homemade" distilling equipment - usually was sold as 80 but real octane number may be anywhere from 60 to 90, unpredictable. Now this is non-existent anymore, as current chechen administration declared total war to such "businesses", often linked to and used to fund operations of local islam terrorists.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,690
24 Jun 2010  #15
octane number 80

Out of interest, what is using such fuel? I've seen it in Ukraine and wondered...
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
24 Jun 2010  #16
No its not, Królewiec is like Africa, say hello to 100+ thousand illegal workers and kiss our growing economy goodbye.

Such a shame..and I dont actually wish this on Poland, but maybe you'll understand how some Brits felt about us opening the doors to countries less fortunate than us..

the place has the highest amount of HIV infected people in Europe matched only by some African states.

Better put in place some restrictions for health services for them or you'll find Polish medical bills rising to millions of millions because of the drugs these people use (we have a similar problem with Africans in the UK)..
OP David_18 68 | 982
24 Jun 2010  #17
Such a shame..and I dont actually wish this on Poland, but maybe you'll understand how some Brits felt about us opening the doors to countries less fortunate than us..

Yah was thinking the same.

What goes around comes around right? xD
Velund 1 | 395
24 Jun 2010  #18
Out of interest, what is using such fuel? I've seen it in Ukraine and wondered...

Some older trucks, motorcycles, older emergency generators or water pumps. Some small agricultural machinery. Not so much demand for this fuel as I can see on a local gas stations, but many have at least one distribution column with A-80.

Some of emergency machinery is intentionally made to operate on almost anything with octane nubmer starting from approx 65, by the way.
cheehaw 2 | 263
24 Jun 2010  #19
Isnt it great - all those highly educated Ruskies coming over willing to work for 3zl an hour :D Just think how grateful your businesses will be for these hard working people who will be willing to take the jobs that you lazy Poles wont do ;0)

Not working at low paying jobs that don't enable you to live a decent life is not lazy, it's smart. Saying people are too lazy to work when jobs don't pay is plain stupidity.

Probably you are just a youngster who has not worked very much, only unqualified people can make such statements as you make here. Maybe you yourself should go work for 3 zl an hour, or you could go to mexico, work in any number of NAFTA factories seeking cheap labor, around 5 dollars a day, perhaps a stint in a mine in Africa for 2 dollars a day would suit you.

Get back to us next year when your health is failing after you work all day in horrible conditions, often with poisonous materials.. sometimes 16 hours.. and can barely afford the shirt on your back. Tell us then how wise it is to work so cheap. Better yet, get stuck in the low wage cycle,, chances are excellent you won't even be with us in 5-7 years.

What with all of the worldwide banking and economic things we are seeing, you would think a realistic minimum wage, a living wage, would be forthcoming also. But no one talks of such a thing. We've got talk of world taxes to the IMF, talk of regulation for this and that ,even the air you breathe.. and nary a whisper for the plight of low paid workers worldwide, which is just another form of modern day slavery.
king polkakamon - | 544
24 Jun 2010  #20
that smart to open the borders in the Königsberg area?

It's very smart.Tell me when it happens to hit Kaliningrad.
OP David_18 68 | 982
24 Jun 2010  #21
Do you mean Königsberg? Кёнигсберг? Karaliauèius? Królewiec? Twānkstathe? Kunnegsgarbs? Regiomontium?

Bah!!! im going crazy!!!!!

Please help me.....?
king polkakamon - | 544
24 Jun 2010  #22
For me it is Kaliningrad because it is full of Russkayas(upgraded).I will be disappointed if I see Germanics there.
Amathyst 19 | 2,702
24 Jun 2010  #23
Not working at low paying jobs that don't enable you to live a decent life is not lazy, it's smart. Saying people are too lazy to work when jobs don't pay is plain stupidity.

But thats what we're told constantly about Brits, I was merely saying the same might happen in Poland (but it was rather tongue in cheek!)

Probably you shouldnt make assumptions.

Im living a country that strived to improve itself..my ancestors fought for my rights and paid with their lives..I dont have worry about sending 6 year old kids down the mine, thats a thing of the past.

Massive importation of low wage seekers keeps wages down - only way of improving things is to lock borderd down shut off the supply.

By the way, most of us are wage slaves..
southern 75 | 7,097
24 Jun 2010  #24
No way Russians are going to work for Poles.More likely they will come as bosses.But if they come to Poland I don't see place for coloured.
Velund 1 | 395
25 Jun 2010  #25
But if they come to Poland I don't see place for coloured.

Is it great problem? ;)
OP David_18 68 | 982
25 Jun 2010  #26
More likely they will come as bosses

Only if they speak polish :)
Velund 1 | 395
25 Jun 2010  #27
If someone will come to invest substantial amount to new enterprise - I think he/she will not have problems with hiring russian-speaking Pole as a executive director. ;) Otherwise, obviously, he/she must be fluent in Polish and live in Poland enough to know local people and be able to avoid stupid misunderstandings that may cause serious problems with personnel from nothing.

I seen a lot of really stupid things that was done by "just from US" managers in Russia in a similar situation. ;)
OP David_18 68 | 982
25 Jun 2010  #28
I seen a lot of really stupid things that was done by "just from US" managers in Russia in a similar situation. ;)

I don't think the Americans are that famous for being bright :)
Crow 138 | 7,646
25 Jun 2010  #29
Russia, Poland ready agreement on visa-free travel

good news for Serbs, too
southern 75 | 7,097
25 Jun 2010  #30
think he/she will not have problems with hiring russian-speaking Pole as a executive director.

Russian manager and employees will speak the common language of vodka.


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