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Poland President National Mourning in Some Countries


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
15 Apr 2010 #61
The german leadership could even come with the ICE if our airports will have to close too...we are coming in every case! *nods determined*
time means 5 | 1,309
15 Apr 2010 #62
list

Which list. The one with condolences or the one with national mourning?
convex 20 | 3,930
15 Apr 2010 #63
othing's forgotten friends, nothing's forgotten.

Does that mean that Poland isn't a friend of Macedonia when they lost their president? Not a friend of America after Oklahoma City and 9/11? No friend of the countries affected by the Tsunami in 2004? No friend of Rwanda? Not a friend of Russia after all the terrorist attacks? Haiti, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China?
OP z_darius 14 | 3,965
15 Apr 2010 #64
[cbc.ca/canada/toronto/story/2010/04/15/canada-poland-day-mourning.html] - Official day of mourning in Canada is today.
ShawnH 8 | 1,497
15 Apr 2010 #65
Prime Minister Harper will be attending a mass at St. Maximillian Kolbe church in Mississauga at 6 pm, along with the Archbishop of Toronto.
Bzibzioh
15 Apr 2010 #66
Are you going?
ShawnH 8 | 1,497
15 Apr 2010 #67
Might be tough to get a seat, I think.
time means 5 | 1,309
15 Apr 2010 #68
Germany

On the list that pgtx posted it doesn't say anything about a national day of mourning.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
15 Apr 2010 #70
Why is Germany so far down on this list...after Moldavia...no fair! :(
Torq
15 Apr 2010 #71
Which list. The one with condolences or the one with national mourning?

Look - what I meant is that some countries traditionally considered hostile towards
Poland are on the list of those who announced official national mourning days, whilst
some of those whom we traditionally considered friends are absent on the list.

You are drawing...

So are you saying either have official mourning days or you are no friend of Poland?

...too strong conclusions from what I've said.

Does that mean that Poland isn't a friend of Macedonia when they lost their president? Not a friend of America after Oklahoma City and 9/11? No friend of the countries affected by the Tsunami in 2004? No friend of Rwanda? Not a friend of Russia after all the terrorist attacks? Haiti, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China?

Another man who likes to overinterpretate people's words. *rolls eyes*

On the list that pgtx posted it doesn't say anything about a national day of mourning.

They're not on the list, but they announced it (I posted links in another thread).

no Brits?!!!!!

no France...
time means 5 | 1,309
15 Apr 2010 #72
some of those whom we traditionally considered friends are absent on the list.

too strong conclusions from what I've said.

That's what it seems like.

The list pgtx has posted seems pretty expansive to me, even Iran is on there.
Crow 155 | 9,025
15 Apr 2010 #73
Today is National Mourning in honor to Polish president and governing stuff, in Serbia. Its realy sad. People expected resurgent Poland to support Serbia and now this happened.
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437
15 Apr 2010 #74
maybe it is good to look at WHO is on the list, not who isn't. just 2 cents.
Torq
15 Apr 2010 #75
Why is Germany so far down on this list

Well, at least you ARE there. That really gave a lot of Poles something to think about.
Germany - NIEMCY, announcing the official day of mourning to commemorate Polish
president. You may have achieved more by that than by years of other political efforts.

maybe it is good to look at WHO is on the list, not who isn't. just 2 cents.

You must have missed that bit from my original post, Aphro:

as well as the surprising presence of some countries on it

OP z_darius 14 | 3,965
15 Apr 2010 #76
On the list that pgtx posted it doesn't say anything about a national day of mourning.

I didn't quote her, or the link.
time means 5 | 1,309
15 Apr 2010 #77
Well, at least you ARE there

So you do actually mean what i initially said?
Crow 155 | 9,025
15 Apr 2010 #78
Well, at least you ARE there. That really gave a lot of Poles something to think about.
Germany - NIEMCY, announcing the official day of mourning to commemorate Polish
president.

Well, when Germans organized assassination of Yugoslav King Alexander I, they came to funeral
Torq
15 Apr 2010 #79
So you do actually mean what i initially said?

No.

Well, when Germans organized assassination of Yugoslav King Alexander I, they came to funeral

But they didn't announce the official day of mourning, did they? Ha!
time means 5 | 1,309
15 Apr 2010 #80
No

Would you say that the response of the UK, France and the US (plus a few others ) is not enough and that they should do more than offer their condolences/respects?

I didn't quote her, or the link.

I know i just used your German bit.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,823
15 Apr 2010 #81
Well, when Germans organized assassination of Yugoslav King Alexander I, they came to funeral

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_I_of_Yugoslavia#Assassination

Ahem!

While being driven in a car through the streets along with French Foreign Minister Louis Barthou, a gunman, Vlado Chernozemski, stepped from the street and shot the King and the chauffeur. Barthou was accidentally shot by a French policeman and died later.

/wiki/Vlado_Chernozemski

But they didn't announce the official day of mourning, did they? Ha!

Yup, no day of mourning for this one!
Torq
15 Apr 2010 #82
Would you say that the response of the UK, France and the US (plus a few others ) is not enough and that they should do more than offer their condolences/respects?

No. But I would say that the response of Germany, for example, is more than the response
of France and, traditionally, we Poles - would expect the opposite situation.

But I guess times change, traditions change and we have to draw conclusions from what
we see, and maybe (JUST MAYBE) Germany is treating Poland more seriously than France
does. And, maybe (just maybe), the relations with Poland are more important to Germany
than to France?

Gee, I don't know... just wondering...
time means 5 | 1,309
15 Apr 2010 #83
I am not having a go at you mate, i too was just wondering.

Lets hope that volcanic cloud is well out of the way before the weekend.
Torq
15 Apr 2010 #84
I am not having a go at you mate, i too was just wondering.

No probs. We live in interesting times, that's for sure.
gregy741 5 | 1,232
15 Apr 2010 #85
i am deaply dissapointed by lack of reaction from Nairobi,and Chad-hehehe
eh seriously i heard that obama is comming,and i hope that our organisators will not seat Sacashvili next to Medvedev othervise it will be another tragedy
aphrodisiac 11 | 2,437
15 Apr 2010 #86
Might be tough to get a seat, I think.

just scanned the comment section rather then the article itself and was a bit shocked that people argue about anything really;)
ShawnH 8 | 1,497
15 Apr 2010 #87
Much like this place, in many respects.
convex 20 | 3,930
15 Apr 2010 #89
But I guess times change, traditions change and we have to draw conclusions from what
we see, and maybe (JUST MAYBE) Germany is treating Poland more seriously than France
does. And, maybe (just maybe), the relations with Poland are more important to Germany
than to France?

Of course. When you look at the connection between Germany and Poland (good and bad), it's way tighter than the connection to France. Always has been.
rock - | 429
15 Apr 2010 #90
Declaring the mourning day we again showed our friendship to Lehistan like in the history.

And our president will atend the funeral.

I hope all Poles will be aware of it. Because Turks always do.


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