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Poland's post-election political scene


OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
8 May 2017 #2,941
expressions

It's quite obvious why you favour decceptive euphemisms. You obviously prefer to refer to a deviate or pervert as a "jolly", "happy" or some such other nonsensical label. But that does not change the fact that those are actually the saddest, most pathetic creatures on God's good earth! They truly deserve our pity.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
8 May 2017 #2,942
that those are actually the saddest, most pathetic creatures on God's good earth!

Really?

Strange, because Jon and I know of a transvestite who appears to be very content with his life, and is well liked in his circles. Don't we, Jon?
jon357 66 | 17,040
8 May 2017 #2,943
It's quite obvious why you favour decceptive euphemisms

Since when has

physically challenged

been a "deceptive euphemism"? Saying (as you did on the previous page) that you prefer words like "cripple" and "retard" is doing your PiS political polemicising no favours at all. It just sounds nowadays like words which would only be used by someone who is bitter and vile.

Even the most rapacious of PiS loud mouthed politicians has not suggested returning to using the Polish equivalent of "cripple" or "retard".

a transvestite

Indeed, though they tend to prefer the term "cross-dresser" unless or until they're transitioning on a longer-term basis.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,944
appears to be very content

That is an extremely well-formulated sentence with emphasis on the word "appears".
People with such problems are great actors as are nearly all individuals with some sort of nervous or mental disorder (psychopaths, schizophrenics, etc.). That's one reason serial killers are so difficult to track down. They lead normal, oridnary lives, go to work, exercise their dog, often have what appear to be normal families.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,945
physically challenged

Anyone with a feel for the language knows that to be a typical example of PC newspeak. Wiki neutrally defines the concept of being mentally retarded thus: Mental retardation (MR), is a generalized neurodevelopmental disorder characterized by significantly impaired intellectual and adaptive functioning.

Admittedly the word cripple may seem a bit harsh, but disabiltiy and handicapped are neutral terms. One speaks of handicapped children and disability pensions not "physically-chalenged pensions".

In general, one should call a spade a spade and limit sugar-coating, pu**yfooting and euphemising to a bare minimum.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,946
newsweek.pl/polska/wyborcza.pl/

Quoting from dodgy sources, what do you expect? The foxy Lis, who jumped on the RT bandwagon as a lad and by currying favour with succesive pro-RT regimes, became a star journalist and TV celebrity. Dislodged from the tube by a saner electorate, he continues to harbour bitterness and dream only of a return of the cushy status quo. And the Szechter "Sh*t Sheet", now losing more and more readers, has been among the loudest propagandists for post-commie Poland euphemistically refrerred to as III RP.

Interestingly, under the Tusk/Kopacz regimes, the Gronkiewicz town hall and PO-era police notoriously deflated figures for PiS-sponsored marches, Smolensk commemorations and other such events. Now the town fathers are inflating opposition shenanigins, but the police no longer back them up.

Harry

No-one should put it past anyone belonging to the libertine "anything goes" gang.
Maybe he's fallen off the PF radar because he's doing guest performances in other cities.
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,947
One speaks of handicapped children

Not nowadays, not for a long time. Disabled people themselves dislike it.

mentally retarded

Likewise.

Even the PiS junta do not favour a return to the disrespectful terminology of yesteryear.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,948
Not nowadays

Ther's nothing disrespectful about it if one does nto buy into the PC delusion that you can solve problems by calling them something else. A midget won't start growing if you call him "vertically challenged". PC thinkng including the persecution of those who refuse to be brainwashed by it is part of the unsavoury status quo that needs to be done away with. You can set up an Obamesque "holiday tree" and am empty Frog-style nativity crib minus the Holy Family and go round wishing people "Season's Greetings " and do other such nonsense, but don't try to force it down everybody's throats. If you're not a fan of Trump, never forget he got in precisely because of the arroagnt, snooty NY-Washingtron clique that thoight they knew what's best for everyone.
Ironside 50 | 10,939
9 May 2017 #2,949
Don't tell me it is Harry ...@ Ziemowit

Wait? You mean Deepak going about his 'Ukrainian wh...' was actually talking about Harry himself? Wow!

Talking about expressions really?
Seems to me that we have witnessed a new/old axis between Macron and Merkel ~(Berlin - Paris) with Russia in the background with their informal support.

I think the EU is doomed.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,950
"vertically challenged".

"vertically challenged".
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,951
Ther's nothing disrespectful

I'd say very disrespectful. In fact an absolute lack of respect and good old-fashioned manners.

midget

So would you describe somebody very short as "a midget" to their face? Or would you say "a cripple" to a disabled person?

Po, if this is your vision of the world that the PiS junta want to create, then no wonder they're doomed.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
9 May 2017 #2,952
production 10 % since January 17
zloty to dollar up 12 % since January
unemployment at lowest since 1991
cut off PO pigs from power makes wonders
good luck to ziobro dealing with the justice system pathology.last bastion of SB red scum
Ironside 50 | 10,939
9 May 2017 #2,953
unemployment at lowest since 1991

Profit margins of the middle men and foreign banksters significantly lower. No wonder they're howling in pain.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,954
middle men and foreign banksters

Of course, that lot do not care a hoot about constitutions, tribunals, the judiciary, middle schools, democracy and what all. That is pure window-dressing and propagandistic bluster meant to divert public attention away from the real reason for all the howling -- loss of indecently inflated profits and wholly undeserved fat-cat pensions. Koniec, kropka!
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,955
production 10 % since January 17
zloty to dollar up 12 % since January
unemployment at lowest since 1991

Not one of those things has the slightest bit to do with the PiS junta. Nothing.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
9 May 2017 #2,956
but it has a lot to do with PO scum
you remove scum,life gets better
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,957
Except, you're talking about a respected government being voted out due to low turnout and replaced by an incompetent and anti-democratic junta who will be out at the next election.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
9 May 2017 #2,958
Except, you're talking about a respected governmen

no..thy were never respected ,they were prostitutes who would do and say anything to please others..being tapped on shoulder by EU trash "leaders" is not respect
Ironside 50 | 10,939
9 May 2017 #2,959
I wonder what is that all about tunnel between Szczecin and Wolin? 200 000 000$ for something like that? Cheaper and safer would be to build a bridge or even few bridges if need arise. Is that some kind of scam?

by an incompetent and anti-democratic junta

Stay off your meds dude.
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,960
thy were never respected ,they were prostitutes

They were and are respected. And wil return as soon as the voters get the chance to vote out the clowns.

Cheaper and safer would be to

Remember job creation is important, I-S. Perhaps not for the PiS junta, but important for the country.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,961
a respected government

Indeed, respected by scmasters, foreign-interest groups, former nail-pullers (SB & Co.), assorted PRL hang-overs and other unsavoury types who have oen claim to fame: tehy are great at churning out clever propaganda, nice-sounding PR and fake news designed to sugar-coat their scams and slander the most noble of their opponents. The proof: it took a quarter of a century for Polish society to realise all the III RP was nothing but one big cover-up for a self-serving clique, now passing itself off as the "total oppostion".
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,962
Indeed, respected by

those in the last three polls who put them above the PiS junta.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,963
a respected government

Indeed, respected by scmasters, foreign-interest groups, former nail-pullers (SB & Co.), assorted PRL hang-overs and other unsavoury types who have oen claim to fame: tehy are great at churning out clever propaganda, nice-sPR and fake news designed to sugar-coat their scams and slander the most noble of their opponents. The proof: it took a quarter of a century for Polish society to realise all the III RP was nothing but one big cover-up for a self-serving clique, now passing itself off as the "total oppostion".
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,964
For Poland to be criticised so strongly (including by Trump's America!) is a very clear indication of just how badly things are going for the PiS junta.

The United States and other countries criticized Poland at the U.N.'s Human Rights Council on Tuesday

washingtonpost.com/world/europe/poland-faces-questions-at-un-human-rights-forum/2017/05/09/a13f0fec-34b5-11e7-ab03-aa29f656f13e_story.html?utm_term=.9869c2b1bd11
Ironside 50 | 10,939
9 May 2017 #2,965
Remember job creation is important

Building bridges create jobs but doesn't stink like a swindle.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
9 May 2017 #2,966
I wonder what is that all about tunnel between Szczecin and Wolin?

It wouldn't be much cheaper to build a big enough bridge. Most Zawacka in Toruń cost about €180 million, and it might not be high enough to ensure unobstructed access to Szczecin, especially as the Tall Ships are always there.

A tunnel makes much more sense there, as you simply don't have to worry about clearance issues.
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,967
in the last three polls

Just shows the PO scmaster faction haven't entirely lost their propaganda skills and are still able to pull the wool over some people's eyes. (Głupich nie sieją -- sami się rodzą - goes a well-known on Polish saying!)

Thankfully, following the aberrational margin-of-error fluke your ilk got so euphoric about, things are back to normal (as yours truly had predicted -- scroll back) with a healthy 7-point lead for PiS and growing. Co daj Boże!
delphiandomine 88 | 18,858
9 May 2017 #2,968
with a healthy 7-point lead for PiS and growing. Co

How was the poll conducted?
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
9 May 2017 #2,969
clear indication

Rather an indication of the harm a power-greedy minority can cause to their own country through slander plus snitching. Targowica was not an extremely large conspiracy -- just a hadnful of no-holds-barred traitors.
jon357 66 | 17,040
9 May 2017 #2,970
Rather an indication of the harm a power-greedy minority

Like the PiS junta. Roundly criticised today in the United Nations for various of their abuses. However much you try and fail to distract from that.

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