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Poland's post-election political scene


OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
10 Oct 2016 #2,251
Probably the best government Poland has had

Undoubtedly the best and unsurpassed in the number of scams, support for foreign interest groups, cronyism and dipping in the till. Even SLD couldn't come close.
jon357 74 | 21,770
10 Oct 2016 #2,252
There you go Po, the more you mention

scams

pervs

sluts

the less believable it all is.

As people say about PIS in general.
gumishu 13 | 6,134
10 Oct 2016 #2,253
You mean like the Newsweek poll where PiS got over 60%?

Polonius this was an internet poll - PiS supporters in the interwebs are much more active than those from other parties simple as that
this poll is therefore not representative of all the population
peterweg 37 | 2,311
10 Oct 2016 #2,254
all publicly paid posts to be filled through open public recruitment.

They did have to be, until PiS cancelled the law.
Ironside 53 | 12,363
10 Oct 2016 #2,255
PiS supporters in the interwebs are much more active

Tsk tsk, any evidence of that?
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
10 Oct 2016 #2,256
from the file

Files are kept only by snitcher creeps who want to have something on everybody. Gestapo/NKVD tactics to be sure. Not my cuppa.
jon357 74 | 21,770
10 Oct 2016 #2,257
They did have to be, until PiS cancelled the law.

That's actually quite alarming. I wonder if any of those posts are connected to infrastructure funding...
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
10 Oct 2016 #2,258
PiS supporters in the interwebs are much more active

Why do you think so? One should think there are more geeks, web-obsessed, pro-gadgetarisans and gung-ho computer nuts amongst PO and Petru backers than amongst more conservative and traditon-minded PiS supporters.
Harry
10 Oct 2016 #2,259
there are more geeks, web-obsessed, pro-gadgetarisans and gung-ho computer nuts amongst PO and Petru backers than amongst more conservative and traditon-minded PiS supporters.

For a start, PO supporters are far more likely to have this thing called a job which will take up a lot of their day.

Anyway, care to tell us why you failed to provide a link to this particular 'story' of yours?

Not my cuppa.

What kind of tea makes 59% more than 60%?
gumishu 13 | 6,134
10 Oct 2016 #2,260
Why do you think so?

it's easily noticeable while reading comments (and seeing likes under this comments) under articles in the main news portals - especially interia.pl
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
10 Oct 2016 #2,261
why you failed to provide a link

I was busy microchipping hairy attack dogs! LOL!!!!
Harry
10 Oct 2016 #2,262
this poll is therefore not representative of all the population

As is demonstrated by an actual poll by IBRIS for Radio ZET from yesterday which has the following results:
PIS 29.8
Nowoczesna 24.3
PO 16.1
Kukiz '15 7.4
SLD 4.7
Razem 3.9
PSL 5.1
Whatever Kowin is called today 1.6
wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1038663,title,Sondaz-IBRIS-dla-Radia-ZET-Topnieje-przewaga-PiS-na-Nowoczesna,wid,18535978,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=117e1f

Perhaps Po would like to tell us that 29% is also more than 60%?
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
11 Oct 2016 #2,263
IBRIS for Radio ZET

IBRIS and Radio BZDET are in the same "unreliable source" category as the Kosher Gazette and Telewizja Nonsensowa (TVN). It's therefore none too surprisng that you choose to cite them.
mafketis 36 | 10,694
11 Oct 2016 #2,264
the Kosher Gazette and Telewizja Nonsensowa (TVN)

I guess you prefer sources like TV Sram, the magazine W Siusiu or Biegunik Pisownik... as many Poles refer to TvTrwam W Sieci or Dziennik Polski....
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
12 Oct 2016 #2,265
Sram

Satire need not be vulgar or obscene unless, that is, its purveyor is vulgar and obscene by definition.
mafketis 36 | 10,694
12 Oct 2016 #2,266
unless, that is, its purveyor is vulgar and obscene by definition.

Well that particular TV station is pretty vulgar and obscene..... so what'sa your point, eh?
gumishu 13 | 6,134
12 Oct 2016 #2,267
I guess you prefer sources like TV Sram, the magazine W Siusiu or Biegunik Pisownik... as many Poles refer to TvTrwam W Sieci or Dziennik Polski..

those Poles are primitives even if they call themselves educated

primitives and haters
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
12 Oct 2016 #2,268
haters

No bigger haters can be found in Poland outside KOD, PO and Petru! They've had 8 years to perfect their "przemysł pogardy" (disdain and hate industry) and they wasted no time doing it.

Whether it's an historical commemoration, a solemn funeral for freedom-fighters, a teachers' protest or pro-abortion march, they are there ranting. chanting and spewing hatred at Poland's democratically elected pro-Polish government. The mangy curs will bark and yelp but the good-change caravan just moves along.
jon357 74 | 21,770
12 Oct 2016 #2,269
Well that particular TV station is pretty vulgar and obscene

I wonder what their viewing figures are.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
12 Oct 2016 #2,270
TV station is pretty vulgar and obscene

You have obviously never watched it. Not a single vulgaity or obscentiy can be heard there. Should a phoner say somerthing obscene, it gets beeped out.
mafketis 36 | 10,694
12 Oct 2016 #2,271
Not a single vulgaity or obscentiy can be heard there.

It all depends on the definition of vulgarity and obscenity being used. I used to actually recommend it to younger people to see what the news in PRL times were like (just change 'church' for party and you're set.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
12 Oct 2016 #2,272
democratically elected pro-Polish government

MORE GOOD NEWS FROM THE GOOD-CHANGE PiS GOVERNMENT:

--Work will soon get under way on the new Vistula Lagoon canal joining it to the Baltic. That will turn land-locked Elbląg into a honest-to-goodness seaport, create thousands of jobs and enable a local tourist and fishing industry to flourish.

--Following the smashing success of Family 500+, the govenrment's flagship Housing+ programme will soon get under way, First crack will be given to families with many children and other less well-to-do applicants. The monthly rent will go towards the purchase of the flats unless the tenants wish to keep on renting.
Harry
12 Oct 2016 #2,273
land-locked Elbląg

Wow: the 18% regime moved fast!

The Harbour of Elbląg is the biggest Polish harbour on The Vistula Bay.

port.elblag.pl/page/show/2/general-information?lang=en

But now they've cut the channel, where are regime going to find the funds to maintain the channel, upgrade the port infrastructure, build rail facilities and drastically upgrade the road connection? There wouldn't be any money at all from the EU for a project that will destroy a Natura 2000 site, even if PIS weren't busy p!ssing off the EU.

FYI, mods, Po has already created a thread about this 'news', he was laughed at there too.
Timmie
12 Oct 2016 #2,274
Harry: But now they've cut the channel, where are regime going to find the funds to maintain the channel, upgrade the port infrastructure, build rail facilities and drastically upgrade the road connection?

Of course. The Gdansk and Gdynia ports also have the not full business. They have the competition. So it is not important for the third port!
Harry
12 Oct 2016 #2,275
The third port is already Swinjouscie. If Poland actually had the billion zloty to spend that this insane plan is estimated to cost (hint: it doesn't), that money could be far better spent bringing Swinjouscie up to Baltimax standard, given that Swinjouscie already has good road and rail links and is close to the large Berlin market. However, Swinjouscie doesn't vote PIS.
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
13 Oct 2016 #2,276
PIS weren't busy p!ssing off the EU.

The KOD-style wreckers and other Hairy Bollocks can always be counted on for one thing: to take the anti-Polish side of any dispute. If there's a Franco-Polish helicopter row, PO will back the French side. If a Jewish-Polish conttroversy arises, they will naturally support the Jews. If the government launches a major programme, they will be sure to tear it to pieces through sheer spite, envy and resentful frusutration. When IPN open their files, they will defend those who persecuted the Polish nation duirng PRL. Who has such friends, needs no enemies!

controversy

One could add: if a disagreement emerges between Warsaw and Brussels, we all know which side the KOD-style wreckers will be on. In fact, through their snitchery they had probably masterminded and heated up the controversy in the first place!
Harry
13 Oct 2016 #2,277
the KOD-style wreckers

It's strange, 'lonius, the last time I read the word 'wreckers' it was in PZPR propaganda about Solidarnosc. Is there a reason you're harking back to the language from then? Is it the current attempts to have a centrally planned economy? Is it the giving jobs by PIS based not at all on ability and instead solely on political reliability? Is it the wanting to have France and Germany as enemies? Is it the plans to build free housing and give it away based on political loyalty? Is it the politicizing of the civil service? Is it something in your own past that you're reverting to? Or are you just talking poo?
OP Polonius3 994 | 12,367
13 Oct 2016 #2,278
build free housing

More Hairy Bollocks! No free housing. It is to be low-cost housing to let or buy with rent going towards purchase.
What woudl you call the idiots who are using every opportuntiy to obstruct the democratically elected govenrment to preserve their cushy status quo?
Your heroes, the scmaster party, have again been caught red-handed. One of their city hall official Marzena Kruk siphoned off 38 million złotys in the real-estate restitution scam. Just the tip of the iceberg. Tusk-era prosecutors and shyster lawyers were also involved.

MORE GOOD NEWS

Although the KOD-ite chanter-ranters keep spewing their venom in defence of their bygone staus quo, the Morawiecki plan continues to move ahead. Prime Minister Beata Szydło told a press conference that a major industrial deal with Mercedes-Benz is "moving full steam ahead". The deal meets the government's Morawiecki plan which envisages the injection of over a trillion złotys into the economy. She said the plan would rebuild the industrial sector, generate new major investments and create new jobs in Poland. Carmaker Daimler AG, parent of Mercedes Benz, announced they intend to invest around $550 million in the first phase of the development in southwestern Poland, and create several hundred new jobs. According to the company's plans, the construction will be completed in 2019. The plant will reach full operating capacity by 2020, producing several hundred thousand engines per year.

PZPR propaganda about Solidarnosc

Yet another Hairy Bollocks lie? You weren't even around back then but were living in one of the commonwealth countries (Australia, RSA?) reportedly trying the evade the long arm of justice. We all know you hate Poland, Polish people, traditions, culture, religion, lifestyles and food but at least respect the language and spell

Solidarność correctly. Save your misspellings for Anglo-jabber!

where are regime going to find the funds

Russia has contested the Vistula canal plan, so now you and your fellow Pole-bashers have yet another non-Polish side to support. Have fun!
jon357 74 | 21,770
14 Oct 2016 #2,279
Quite a demonstration today outside Jaro's house. It looks like Poles aren't going to lie down and put up,with PIS.
nothanks - | 633
14 Oct 2016 #2,280
I would not trade our government with any of our allies. We are spoiled

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