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Poland's post-election political scene


Wulkan - | 3,250
20 Jul 2017 #3,541
Mr Michnik: shall I ask if he remembers you?

Does Michnik speak English, I doubt you'd understand his stuttering Polish, your broken Polish won't help him understand you either.
mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,542
Politicians appointing judges -- horrors, how anti-democratic!

In this case, yes, because it's obvious that PiS wants direct single party control over the judiciary. There was a feature on tvn about checks and balances in these other countries that don't exist in PiS's rule-of-party-instead-of-law "reform" .
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
20 Jul 2017 #3,543
There would needed to be grounds

Indeed, 22 billion in lost VAT revenues during the PO/PSL regime. Poland could have built a dense motorway network with that money. BTW Morawiecki announced today that Poland has a 6 bln zł budget surplus for the first time. Yes, the Polish economy was in ruins after PO/PSL got done with it, but not now! What say ye Mayfixit? Any "clever"(?!) way of trying to explain that away?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,544
judiciary system sorted..now its time to repolonise media.onet.wyborcza,wp.pl ,tvn ,michnik ,soros out of Poland..pls..enough of fake news media

finally someone is taking care of red scum..reopen bereza kartuska
mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,545
judiciary system sorted..

Let the show trials begin!
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,546
yep...and send scum to bereza..start with de- legalising PO criminal org...and foreign paid traitors from kod and nowoczesna..yumm yumm
The Polonian
20 Jul 2017 #3,548
direct single party control

You're not following developments. Appointing a judge will require 3/5 support meaning that no single party can appont a jdge without the aid of other parties.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,549
You're a fine party asset.

nahh..but criminal PO scum need to be prosecuted...yet again,it was reported today about PO scumbags were using ABW agency to spy and prosecute opposition members(blaszczak this time)...how long this will be tolerated?how democratic is using security agencies to spy and criminalise on opposition?
mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,550
nahh..but criminal PO scum need to be prosecuted

You are PRL through and through. Beton!
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,551
mafketis

since ,you are fanboy of PO"democracy guardians" could you explain to me,what is this standard of democracy when ruling party use security agency for spying and forging documents in order to prosecute opposition leaders? thats Zimbabwe standards of democracy...
mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,552
et again,it was reported today about PO scumbags were using ABW agency

reported by who?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,553
free media"
tvp.info/33261306/abw-chciala-dopasc-blaszczaka-i-nielegalnie-go-inwigilowala-sledztwo-w-prokuraturze
prosecution on the way for PO scum
yet again we learn that PO criminals were using national security agencies for fighting and attempting to destroy opposition.
jon357 66 | 17,078
20 Jul 2017 #3,554
The Polish pro-democracy vigils are happening right now around Poland, plenty of people out on the street, all very civilised and decent.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,555
PO scum,not only invigilated opposition leaders and their families through ABW,but tried to force false statements on members of public against Blaszczak,in order to prosecute and blackmail him.

also,it was found that PO used ABW to invigilate 68 journalists....hows that for free press?
mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,556
free media"

you mean the party organ....
jon357 66 | 17,078
20 Jul 2017 #3,557
hows that for free press?

A hell of a lot freer than now. Have you actully watched the news on TVPiS? About as impartial as North Korea.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,558
today nobody is useing security agency to attack press journalists and opposition leaders.....
PIS-42%
scumbags-18%
yeaaaa,
jon357 66 | 17,078
20 Jul 2017 #3,559
nobody is useing security agency

Do you really believe that for even one second?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,560
ooohh boy,,it only show how ignorant you are in regards of Poland political scene.
its not for the forst time...its well know fact that PO were using security agencies to prosecute opposition.
read about " szafa lesiaka "scandal..its standard behaviour by those criminal scumbags
jon357 66 | 17,078
20 Jul 2017 #3,561
This is today's Polish pro-democracy protest in the centre of Warsaw. A crowd as far as the eye can see.

using security agencies

What do you think the PiS junta are doing right this minute...



mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,562
What do you think the PiS junta are doing right this minute...

But he's in favor of that.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,563
What do you think the PiS junta are doing right this minute..

drinking champagne
jon357 66 | 17,078
20 Jul 2017 #3,564
I doubt that somehow. All the reports say they're seriously worried by the scale of opposition to their proposal, as well as the international response.

The protests this evening in Warsaw were huge, this week each one has been larger than the last. It could well be turning into a Warsaw Spring.
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,565
. All the reports

reports from Harry.Delph?
hahahah...just watched Szydlo message to polish people..she said: " we are not gonna back down,and we not scared"
few UB cnuts and their useful idiots paid by soros are not scaring anyone
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
20 Jul 2017 #3,566
You are PRL through and through.

Groundless accusations thrown to the wind. It is the judicial reform is finally cleaning up the court system of PRL holdovers, including those who tried and sentenced anti-communist dissidents and Soldiairty acticists according to PZPR dictates. The shouters, screamers and rumpus raisers are defending the post-communist status quo.
mafketis 24 | 9,387
20 Jul 2017 #3,567
It is the judicial reform is finally cleaning up the court system of PRL holdovers, including those who tried and sentenced anti-communist dissidents and Soldiairty acticists according to PZPR dictates.

Names, besides Piotrowicz. How on earth do you think that putting the court system under the direct control of a political party is a good idea? Beton!
OP Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
20 Jul 2017 #3,568
Mr Michnik: shall I ask if he remembers you?

We're all dying to hear your arcane report. What did the Soviet agents' son and Stalinist murderer's brother have to say? Did you look up to find out what you were shouting, screaming and chanting? Any word on when PiS plan to withdraw the judicial reforms and reinstate the PRL-era commie judges they wanted to remove? Were you still sober by the time you crawled back home?
gregy741 4 | 1,204
20 Jul 2017 #3,569
z. How on earth do you think that putting the court system under the direct control of a political party is a good idea?

cus every gov agency need to be under control of people.if not,its turn into pathology,oligarchy -like bs
since people cant control directly ,they have their representatives
who in turn forge political parties.who create government if they win election...simple.
see?
jon357 66 | 17,078
20 Jul 2017 #3,570
How on earth do you think that putting the court system under the direct control of a political party is a good idea?

Indeed. No party stays in power for long, and they may well find that their opponents will one day use it against the, In every way a bad idea,

under control of people.

Read up on the concept of parliamentary democracy and an independent judiciary.

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