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POKO and LGBT lobby is trying to sexualize children in Poland. Now they aim for adoption


OP Spike31 2 | 875
16 Mar 2019  #31
PiS should hurry up and add other things to the constitution

PiS is one thing, and Konfederacja - which is a true radical nationalist-capitalist movement - is another. I hope they'll grow as much as PiS does on this LGBT fuel.

PiS, when standing next to Konfederacja, looks more like a centrist party.

The EU haven't seen anything like that yet. Well, maybe except Janusz Korwin-Mikke, whose presence and speeches at the EU parliament caused shock to eurocrats. I just wonder what they're going to say when they will see Grzegorz Braun in action :-)

It would be great if Konfederacja played the same role to PiS as Jobbik does to Fidesz in Hungary.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,386
16 Mar 2019  #32
Just joined their FB group last night. I predict that it will. Poles aren't too fond of pedaly. Plus they can help pis enact more nationalistic agendas.

Poland could use a national militia kind of like azov in ukraine. Theyd shut down the pro LGBT types real quick
mafketis 20 | 7,253
16 Mar 2019  #33
Poles aren't too fond of pedaly

But theyr'e not all morbidly obsessed like you are either.... you need to talk to someone about that.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,386
16 Mar 2019  #34
"Tu jest Polska, nie Bruksela tu sie pedalowania NIE POPIERA." It's that simple.

Poles simply won't go for fag marraige let alone adoption.

This only helps Pis. In 2015 it was preventing rapefugees invading Poland, now it's Jewish and eu sponsored ngos trying to undermine the Polish family, our constitution, and the desire od the majority of polish citizens.
OP Spike31 2 | 875
16 Mar 2019  #35
I can see that we're deriving from the essence of this thread.

So I will ask directly: what is you opinion on WHO [World Health Organization] Standards for Sexuality Education in Europe which is introduced to schools and pre-schools by LGBT lobby.

Here's a sample from it:

for children: 0-4 years old:

[at this stage children should learn about] enjoyment and pleasure when
touching one's own body,
early childhood masturbation


Do you support it or are you against it? As simple as that.

Source:

bzga-whocc.de/fileadmin/user_upload/WHO_BZgA_Standards_English.pdf
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
16 Mar 2019  #36
Spike, Spike.. such simple statements are typical of nationalists, who lack the intellectual capability of actually reading more than a few sentences.

As we already established, you've taken an isolated statement from the matrix without context. As anyone actually familiar with education knows, you need to read the whole document to understand the matrix, and the document makes it clear that it should be age-adjusted.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and in this case, you're obviously falsely representing what the document actually says.

Still, one has to wonder why you choose to live in Western Europe if it's so terrible ;)

This only helps Pis.

The opposite. PiS tend to do worse when they get involved in social politics, because it pushes them further to the right and away from the key electorate. It also pushes them into the territory of the nationalists, which means that the nationalists lose support as they can't compete against a much larger political organisation. It also means they end up wasting time and energy on fringe politics, leaving the ground clear for the main opposition - which is what they don't want to do.

The other problem, of course, is that PiS have very little credibility on this issue after the way they treated disabled children.
OP Spike31 2 | 875
16 Mar 2019  #37
who lack the intellectual capability

@delphiandomine, I take such a statement coming from you as a complement :-)

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

I completely agree. That's why I'm spending part of my spare time spreading the knowledge about traditionalist, conservatist and capitalist point of view. You can also benefit from it.

actually reading more than a few sentences

Then let's dig in, shall we?

We had theory lessons, so now it's time for "practical skills"

Matrix for children age 0-4, second column: Skills

[children should]
express own needs, wishes
and boundaries, for example
in the context of "playing
doctor"


source:

WHO: standards for sexuality education for Europe

A framework for policy makers,
educational and health authorities
and specialists

bzga-whocc.de/fileadmin/user_upload/WHO_BZgA_Standards_English.pdf
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
16 Mar 2019  #38
That's why I'm spending part of my spare time spreading the knowledge about traditionalist, conservatist and capitalist point of view.

And yet you actually push the PiS agenda almost non stop, which is anything but capitalist.

We had theory lessons, so now it's time for "practical skills"

You're just proving that you haven't actually read the document. It makes it crystal clear that the matrix should be age adjusted as appropriate. Children being able to talk about their own bodies is a crucial skill when combating child abuse, but you know, you'd actually have to read the document to understand that.
Ironside 48 | 9,750
16 Mar 2019  #39
push the PiS agenda

Why are you inserting PiS everywhere? they signed the Nice treaty. They suck up to the EU. They lay like a doormat for USA and Israel to trample over. Who care about them? You for some odd reason.

However don't let your obsession divert this topic from it proper course.

LGBT activist and revolutionaries and all their leftie allies are in a full fledged attack. I'm actually glad they go for a jugular in their all at once approach. It will cause a backlash the bigger their gain the bigger backlash. Good!

There is nothing good in their agenda or ideology. Its evil, totalitarian and not healthy.
Jaskier
16 Mar 2019  #40
express own needs, wishes

Yeah who would want kids to be able to say 'I don't like what you do. Stop '. How dare they have boundaries
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
16 Mar 2019  #41
Bingo.

You have to wonder why 'traditional conservatists' would be against that.
Jaskier
16 Mar 2019  #42
Because most of them don't understand and instead get cought by nice sounding, scaring slogans that they can throw against their political enemies.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
16 Mar 2019  #43
Because most of them don't understand

Pretty much. Spike is a fantastic example in this thread, because he's focusing on one single part of an entire document.
Ironside 48 | 9,750
16 Mar 2019  #44
Yeah who would want kids to be able to say 'I don't like what you do. Stop '. How dare they have boundaries

Why are you posting such an obvious crap? Making a strawman and fighting with it . Did he actually meant that? I doubt it. Hell, I'm sure he didn't. If he did he would support LGBT ideology. Why don't you stop spewing nonsense and think for a few moments it won't kill you.
Jaskier
16 Mar 2019  #45
Can you be a bit clearer please? For example I have no idea what 'he' you are talking about?
OP Spike31 2 | 875
16 Mar 2019  #46
Good. I made you read the document, at least a part of it.

However don't let your obsession divert this topic from it proper course.

Diversion is his second name :-)

Yeah who would want kids to be able to say 'I don't like what you do. Stop '.

Sure, depraving elements are mixed with other elements which are more neutral. But those depriving elements alone are enough to condemn the manual as a whole regardless of the rest of the document.
Jaskier
16 Mar 2019  #47
It's still a 1000 times better than Polish one in which, if I remember correctly period is called 'tears of uterus' or the manual for abused women distributed by conservative circles that teaches girls to be respectful towards the guy that abuses them.

And I'm still waitong for those awful bits you are talking abouts
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
16 Mar 2019  #48
But those depriving elements alone are enough to condemn the manual as a whole regardless of the rest of the document.

That sounds almost identical to the justification provided by Communist authorities to ban Western literature.
OP Spike31 2 | 875
17 Mar 2019  #49
To me it sounds more like: if someone take a p**s in a whisky barrel we get rid of the whole beverage despite the fact that the rest of the liquid in that barrel is still technically a scotch :-)

I think I cannot explain it in simpler terms so I hope you understand now.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
17 Mar 2019  #50
It's such a pleasure watching nationalists repeat the same rhetoric as Communists.

They are, after all, rather similar in so many ways.
OP Spike31 2 | 875
20 Mar 2019  #51
"Drag Queen Who Read to Kids at Houston Library Is Convicted Pedophile"

thenewamerican.com/culture/family/item/31768-drag-queen-who-read-to-kids-at-houston-library-is-convicted-pedophile

Those are the "educators" who would want to educate our children in "tolerance"
delphiandomine 83 | 17,653
20 Mar 2019  #52
thenewamerican

The New American (TNA) is a print magazine published twice a month by American Opinion Publishing Inc., a wholly owned subsidiary of the John Birch Society (JBS), a far-right organization

Why do you even bother posting such lies?
OP Spike31 2 | 875
20 Mar 2019  #53
The news is real. The fact that is not being published by liberal-left mainstream media is understandable since they don't inform anymore but rather "creating a narrative". Would you only believe it if it was on a front page of The Guardian?

Here's a link from Fox News

foxnews.com/opinion/todd-starnes-sex-offender-reads-to-kids-at-librarys-drag-queen-story-time-how-the-heck-did-that-happen
mafketis 20 | 7,253
20 Mar 2019  #54
Why do you even bother posting such lies?

That case is not a lie and has been reported in legitimate media...

msn.com/en-us/news/crime/texas-library-apologizes-after-registered-sex-offender-participated-in-drag-queen-storytime/ar-BBURGDM


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