You have total mess made by Trump. He is so stupid that he aliened the best assets of the US. The one that Russia nor China couldn't emulate. Something unique, European alliance, that what made America great. Without it you are not that great. Idiots. ---
Of course - nobody knows what the aim of that war is so who is going to join that dumbass mission ?
Let me see if I can explain it to you in simple terms. What is so hard to understand that Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism for the past 50 plus years ? (I personally remember watching it unfold on t.v. during the 1972 Olympics) The biggest terrorist organizations of the world (Hezbollah, Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Houthis, Kataib, Harakat, and Al-Qaeda in the past ) are armed, train in and financed by Iran. And the 'only' leaders of the world that have stood up to them are the Honorable Donald Trump and Netanyahu that said, NO, you will not be allowed to have a nuclear bomb to terrorize the world with. And some call this a pointless war. :-/ What are we suppose to do, wait until they actually develop a nuke or three to engage their threats ? These people have already stated that their goal is to "wipe Israel off the map" and "death to America". Hope that helped you understand the aim of that war.
The Black September Organization (BSO) was a Palestinian militant group founded in 1970-1971. The group's most infamous act was the 1972 Munich Olympics massacre, its training and operational bases were spread across multiple regions. The terrorists groups all started unfolding with Black September and grew like a cancer.in the Muslim and Palestinian countries when they saw how well hostage taking and cold blooded murder worked by killing innocent people.
How dumb can you be dude?
I guess i speak too generally for some people. I'll try harder to be more precise for you.
Let me see if I can explain it to you in simple terms.
What you think are simple terms are simply wrong. There is only one nuclear armed country in the middle east which daily brings death to the Palestinian people in its attempt to erase Palestine from the map. The events in Munich had nothing to do with Iran. If you want to punish somewhere for Wahhabi ideology start with your dictatorial allies in the Persian Gulf, again Iran had nothing to do with this perversion of Islam.
Trump withdrawing from the joint agreement caused todays problems, not forgetting the unprovoked attack on Iran during negotiations.
Trump and Bibi own this mess and Trump doesnt know how to extract the US from it. Another win for Trumpflation and Netanyahu.
Trump and Bibi own this mess and Trump doesnt know how to extract the US from it.
Yep. Attemtps to 7D chess this epic pooch scr3vv are just kind of sad.
Trump is delivering on some domestic issues but his foreign policy has been derailed into stoopid town thanks to Bibi, the US Israeli lobby, his own bad judgement and terrible choice or representatives like Steve Witkoff who seems to be a clinically diagnosable moron.
Trump got worried that Poland and other EU countries would stop overpaying for NATO, so they sent 5k American soldiers back to Poland. It is still overpaying. Poland should try to learn as much as possible from these soldiers about military equipment, including how to use and maintain it properly because at some point the bankrupt US may stop sending troops to Poland.
There is only one nuclear armed country in the middle east
Yup, to be used for defense and not offense like Iran wants to use them for to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and death to America. And that is why they can't be allowed to possess such a weapon. Is there any doubt in your Irish mind that Iran would use one against Israel after their latest massacre where Hamas, an Iran backed Palestinian militant group of terrorists crossed Israel's border to murder and rape innocent civilians while taking hundreds hostage ?
@johnny reb Israel is currently trying to erase the Palestinian nation in a genocidal onslaught which doesn't seem to bother you. In the past month we have had video evidence of unprovoked assault on elderly Christian nuns, desecration of Christian symbols and restrictions on Christian worship. The colonial powers are able to murder US citizens with impunity, rape with impunity and force farmers to dig up recently buried relatives. That's just for starters, it's all documented and mostly on video.
Your mystic skills only take you so far, Trumpflation is coming for you because the man ran headlong into a quagmire. Supporting this ridiculous aggression, cheering the murder of school kids and other assorted non combatants is not a good look. What is worse is trying to blame others for your own mistakes you didn't see coming with all your mystic powers.
Nope, not in the least bit. When the Hamas militants and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad crossed the border from the Gaza Strip into Israel illegally on October 7th and raped and cut Israeli's babies heads off and kidnapped innocent Israelis it was game on. Those animals should be culled and that is exactly what Israel is deservingly doing. F with a truck and you get dumped.
They attacked first and turn around and try to shift blame. It worked on useful idiots that actually protested, only to find out Soros and the Democrats were funding and promoting Hamas propaganda in the USA.
I wonder when Soros will be charged with a crime, has to be soon:)
You do you know that has not been corroborated with actual evidence? The media simply tan with what some Israeli military officer said.
promoting Hamas propaganda in the USA.
And there is also loads if Israeli propaganda in the USA.
Do you guys think the mass killing in Gaza by Israel, the starvation, and the complete destruction of Gaza is proportional? Or do you think proportionality shouldn't even be considered?
is proportional? Or do you think proportionality shouldn't even be considered?
These kind of questions shouldn't even enter the heads of Christians:
"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect."
does not say you should allow yourself to be killed by your enemies.
This is not what Israelis are doing though. They're not just defending themselves. They're taking revenge on Palestinians.
You were asking about "proportionality" of Israel's response, yes? But what Hamas did was evil. So are you saying that If Israel did something "proportionally evil" to Palestinians then it would be acceptable? 🤨
"genocidal onslaught which doesn't seem to bother you"
Nope, not in the least bit.
Don't need to comment further, you have confirmed my opinion of you.
never has been a Palestinian nation
You do realise that a nation and country is not the same thing? But I don't expect anything rational or considered from a supporter of genocide with an easy listening taste in music. I mention music as you seem to like ersatz stuff
They attacked first and turn around and try to shift blame
Are you not strong?
Do you not consider yourself a Christian?
Have you ever spent 20 years inside an open air prison, watching yourself, your wife and your children be humiliated?
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To describe Israel's behavior in accurate terms - in polite society - almost guarantees being condemned as an antisemite.
Why! Why?
Why should good people close their eyes to the horrible crimes they are committing? Is there no space to discuss the deaths, the torture, and starvation?
What is wrong with us - if this is how we structure our discourse?
Certainly Jesus would never close his eyes to such enormous suffering - unimaginable in his age, where Romans would crucify some dozens and be done with it.
We are engaging in cruelty impossible in Biblical times - through lack of access to technology.
We are worse, and more hateful, and more aggressive than ever before. How come no one on your side is awake to this?
If you are attacked, you have a right to not only defend against but proportionally harm the attacker. The attacker is not innocent.
What Israel is doing in Gaza is exceedingly disproportionate. Israel is mot simply going after Hamas, but is also killing innocent Palestinians. The killing of innocents is never acceptable.
You do realise that a nation and country is not the same thing?
Yes, but Palestine has never been either....please try to prove me wrong..... :-)
@Bobko
Typical Russian anti semite.The word Pogrom is a Russian word.Enough said....
Israel is mot simply going after Hamas, but is also killing innocent Palestinians.
If you had said that Israel was killing innocent Arabs or Jordanians I might have had a tad more sympathy for your posts,but Palestinians are are non existant made up race.....check your history....
The Country That Never Was: Debunking the Myth of Arab Palestine
The world keeps hearing about "Palestine," as if there was once a sovereign Arab nation that was conquered, colonized, or stolen. But here's the undeniable truth: there has never been a sovereign Arab country called Palestine. Not in ancient times, not under Islam, not under the Ottomans, and not before 1948.
The name Palestine has a long history but it was always a geographic term, never a national one. It referred to a region, not a country. To understand the power of this historical distortion, we must go back to where it began.
Putinist RuSSians say the same thing about Ukrainians
We never wanna gas them, or exterminate them.
Yes, we want to turn them into Russians.
But if they don't want to become Russians, you think we will gas them or throw a big stick of dynamite into their bedroom?
Russia has been, for better or worse, dealing with Ukrainians for half a millennium. I don't think we ever tried to kill them off like cockroaches - and Holodomor doesn't apply - because it killed as many Russians and people in other places.
Whenever we caused massive casualties - we always made sure we went through the same - big difference.
But if they don't want to become Russians, you think we will gas them or throw a big stick of dynamite into their bedroom?
Yes,of course you would, because you are barbarians.....
Anyway, back to the non existant state of Palestine.
Countries, international organizations and legal bodies commonly call the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem the "Occupied Palestinian Territory" because they are parts of the former British Mandate of Palestine that were not incorporated into the State of Israel in 1948 and have been subject to Israeli military control since 1967 (UN and UN agencies use the term) [1] [2]. The Palestinian Liberation Organization proclaimed a State of Palestine in 1988 and many states recognize it, but debate about full sovereign statehood and the legal status of those lands persists among states, Israel, and some scholars.
It's always incredible saddening to see you two fighting because Milo doesn't recognise the Red Army's immense sacrifices taking back Poland and Eastern Europe from the Nazi scum, and liberating the death camps, and Bobko doesn't perhaps acknowledge enough that Poles didn't want to end up a satellite state of the USSR after WW2.
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