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"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)


Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
11 Oct 2018  #1,081
@Bratwurst Boy,

A most informative map, thank you:-) Was no longer aware of the subdivisions.

@Tacitus,

Indeed, a great many foreigners do for sure work as doctors and enginieers....no doubt at almost half the salary of a German:-)
It's nearly the same here in the States; many Koreans, Hindus and Russians work as doctors, teachers, lawyers, and engineers. If though you
believe they earn the same as a native-born US citizen, you're dreaming, hate to put it to you bluntly.
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
11 Oct 2018  #1,082
AMEN, take any tabloid with a "super" grain of salt, no pun intended.

Maybe it did happen this way it was reported, and then again maybe it didn't.

On the other hand, Americans abroad, in Europe as elsewhere, have a less than sterling reputation.
Sure, all occupiers and conquerors behave badly, but only the US has pretended that "we are loved throughout the "free" world!"
BULL CRAP!

Ask a German old enough being raped by US servicemen during the first years of the allied occupation after the war. The Russians were bad,

the Americans though were often not much better. We simply have better PR at our disposal than the former "Russkies".
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
11 Oct 2018  #1,083
Sure, all occupiers and conquerors behave badly, but only the US has pretended that "we are loved throughout the "free" world!"

1. Straw man argument.
2. Name another "occupier" who behaves better than the white Americans.

No, I am not trying to start another race war here. I am merely acknowledging the fact that the black American soldiers come from the same 'hoods where the overall crime rate is seven times higher than in the white areas and the murder rate is 17 times greater.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,663    
11 Oct 2018  #1,084
It's nearly the same here in the States; many Koreans, Hindus and Russians work as doctors, teachers, lawyers, and engineers.

You have got to be kidding me... All those people make the same amount in white collar professions an Asian or Hindu doctor or teacher makes no less than a white doctor at a hospital. What differs is the company, region, experience, negotiating power, etc. The only people who make less for the same job are blue collar latinos. And even now they've wised up and started joining unions, making their own companies, etc. Try finding a Mexican who will work for $100 a day now...not gonna happen.
Crow 143 | 7,293    
11 Oct 2018  #1,085
How to make Merkel cry

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Tacitus 1 | 641    
11 Oct 2018  #1,086
Perhaps Trump told her sonething about Poland in this scene. If so, he most likely asked her a) where poland is on a map and b) if they should simply offer it to Russia with the Ukraine.
Crow 143 | 7,293    
11 Oct 2018  #1,087
Germany is doomed same as pig is doomed in Tehran

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Ziemowit 12 | 3,023    
11 Oct 2018  #1,088
A most informative map, thank you:-) Was no longer aware of the subdivisions.

Berlin is not Brandenburg, so it should have been marked in white rather than in red as it is along with the rest of Brandenburg. Thus the map is incorect.
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
11 Oct 2018  #1,089
The map reflects current political breakdowns within certain circumscribed locations, Ziemowit.
Within every "city", there's usually a "Kreis" or "district", not really translatable in one English word,
example, "city of Berlin, "Kreisstadt" or district of______, province of Brandenburg" etc..

No, the map is actually correct:-)
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
11 Oct 2018  #1,090
The map reflects current political breakdowns

Political? Another euphemism for "racial"?
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
11 Oct 2018  #1,091
?? Sure we're on the same homepage, dude?
What has the province or "Land" of Brandenburg to do with anything racial?? Plenty of Turks, including "Turkish-Germans" along with others, live in the so-called Mark Brandenburg region. In fact, the reasons for considerable racial tensions in places such as Koenig-Wustenhausen outside Berlin proper had to do with the fact that

many dark-skinned recent immigrants lived in and around those areas.
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
11 Oct 2018  #1,092
?? Sure we're on the same homepage, dude?

Just asking. I am so happy that, as opposed to the US, Europe does no see any correlation between crime and race or ethnicity and that the German and the Swedish men rape their women at the same rate as the foreign garbage you all thought would be your doctors and engineers - just more exotic.
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
11 Oct 2018  #1,093
Always easy to scapegoat and target the more vulnerable aka those who seem to stand out from the random crowd.
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
11 Oct 2018  #1,094
What does your comment have to do with the subject of crime rate vs race/ethnicity? Is there a correlation or not? If you decide to answer, please, no sob stories. We can discuss those later.
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
11 Oct 2018  #1,095
Clearly there isn't, Rich!

Again, many people necessarily jump to fallacious conclusions, e.g. there was a knife fight in Berlin, therefore, foreigners MUST have been involved, etc.
This sort of thinking only fuels a racist agenda. Where does it end?
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
12 Oct 2018  #1,096
Again, many people necessarily jump to fallacious conclusions, e.g. there was a knife fight in Berlin, therefore, foreigners MUST have been involved, etc.

OK, so the perps were native white Germans?
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
12 Oct 2018  #1,097
Clearly there isn't, Rich!

Let me get it correctly. You are saying that, in Germany, the crime rates among the native white Germans are materially the same as they are among the Turks or Syrians, for example?
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,663    
12 Oct 2018  #1,098
there was a knife fight in Berlin, therefore, foreigners MUST have been involved, etc.

It ends once they leave the european continent willingly or we have another battle of vienna. You can bet 9 out of 10 times that if someone pulled out a knife and started stabbing people or raped a woman its gonna be a foreigner, not a native European

Stereotypes are all based on repetitive actions of a population whether that's poles drinking, muslims blowing people up, blacks going to prison, asians getting good grades etc.

And yes, there was numerous events in the past few days all weirdly hardly reported on...

In UK a cultural enricher waved a 12 inch knife threatening to kill people.

Another uk paki raped a 76 year old woman with dementia.

Another muslime is on trial for being an isis member and plotting attacks...

Sorry lyzko, but white europeans don't do this kind of sh1t... like ive said, not all muslims in Europe are terrorisrs, but basically all terrorists in europe are muslims.. not to different with rapists, those stabbing people etc

Clearly there isn't, Rich!

Clearly there is as university of zurichs stats show migrants to be 92% responsible for the increase in violent crime. Oh and.dont forget about all the terror.attacks in europe - almost all were by muslims
Tacitus 1 | 641    
12 Oct 2018  #1,099
You can bet 9 out of 10 times that if someone pulled out a knife and started stabbing people or raped a woman its gonna be a foreigner, not a native European

Utterly ridiculous. Are you really that stupid to believe this?
kondzior 8 | 914    
12 Oct 2018  #1,100
This is a part of being mudslime.
[in before lefist [liberal] admin deletes this post]
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,663    
12 Oct 2018  #1,101
Utterly ridiculous. Are you really that stupid to believe this?

Are you that blind and so brainwashed to where you cant comprehend the reality that migrants and foreigners commit far more violent crimes than european natives? Ive posted a bunch of sources from uni atudies to all sorts of media outlets left right and center all saying that yes migrants are disproportionately responsible for violent crime.

Prove me wrong then. Show me that foreigners and migrants arent responsible for the majority of violent crime, rape and terrorism in western europe because last time i checked they certainlt are.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 8,870    
12 Oct 2018  #1,102
Wiki has a long article about that....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_and_crime

The article mentions also a study done by Zurich University of Applied Sciences, is it that you refer to?

...A January 2018 Zurich University of Applied Sciences study commissioned by the German government attributed over 90% of a 10% overall rise in violent crime from to 2015 to 2016 in Lower Saxony could to refugees.[80]....

Interesting stuff....

...Sex crimes made for less than 1 percent of all crimes committed by refugees, while homicide registered the smallest fraction at 0.1 percent."[83]....

So, it seems the raping, murdering refugee is really not that common...more often it's the thief.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,663    
12 Oct 2018  #1,103
Bam!!

m.dw.com/en/german-study-links-increased-crime-rate-to-migrant-arrivals/a-42006484
gatestoneinstitute.org/12570/germany-crime-trump

According to Germany's 2017 crime statistics, more than 1,100 foreigners were charged with murder or manslaughter, as opposed to around 1,500 suspects holding German passports. Given that Germany was home to roughly 10 million foreigners as opposed to 70 million German nationals, these are staggering numbers.

So yes migrants are about 6x 7x more likely to be charged with manslaughter or murder..

But dont forget about rape and terrorism

bloomberg.com/amp/view/articles/2018-01-03/germany-must-come-to-terms-with-refugee-crime
bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-45269764
Sweden rape: Most convicted attackers foreign-born

And what about terror? There were only TWO terror attacks comitted by natives - breivik and a english dude showing a crowd of muslims what being culturally enriched with a car feels like. All the rest were foreign muslims.

wjla.com/news/inside-your-world/crime-stats-show-increase-in-violence-against-women-in-sweden-after-refugee-crisis

Thank God Poland hasnt taken in a ton of muslims. Otherwise you better believe we wouldnt have a perfect ZERO islamic terror attacks and our rape stats remain the same while Germany's swedens etc have skyrocketed. 1200 women assaulted in just one night in one german city - thats about half the sexual assaults that occur in all of poland per year.
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
12 Oct 2018  #1,105
Dirk & Co.

Before you start quoting more stats from sometimes questionable sources which tend to feed what we already want to be believe is so (even if it isn't, like some sort of self-fulfilling prophecy), just keep in mind what Disraeli is alleged to have stated: "There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics."

I'd be curious as to the news agency in Sweden which "confirms" what white Swedes, along with those already bigoted, all too often wish to believe. Undoubtedly, as with Fox News here in the States, CNN etc. there's a political agenda afoot which promotes selective news reporting, that is, reporting only crimes committed by foreigners

in urban Sweden to fan the flames of racisim, instead of reporting those crimes in RURAL Sweden, for instance, where doubtless crimes also take place, committed by Swedes, but often unreported to the media, e.g. wife beating, disorderly drunkenness and the like.
Tacitus 1 | 641    
12 Oct 2018  #1,106
Interesting how Dirk contradicts himself with his own articles... .
Lyzko 17 | 4,920    
12 Oct 2018  #1,107
Tacitus, he's an American!

I always admired your educational system, especially in France as well, which continually impressed me as teaching students the bread-and-butter basics of logical,
cogent, above all, consistent, argument...in English, not to mention the student's mother tongue.

Europeans whom I've met over the years, are typically far more articulate and infinitely better informed about world affairs than the average American could ever hope to be, especially now when we have a so-called "president" (missed his calling long ago as an itinerant insult comic) who doesn't believe in science aka global climate change, moreover, who admits to having about between a fifth and sixth grade reading comprehension level.

If it smells at the bottom, it stinks at the top.
johnny reb 16 | 3,274    
12 Oct 2018  #1,108
better informed about world affairs than the average American could ever hope to be,

That's because of the Commie Liberal Saul Alinski instructors that have dumbed down the students in America's educational systems.
The instructors teach to tear down Historic statues, burn History books, that we must tolerate men in the ladies restrooms, have taken prayer out of our schools, to support the bastardizing of our Constitution to mention just a few of the gross dumbing down of American students so what do you expect.

Until we get rid of these Commie Instructors we will continue to fall behind like we did in obama's lost decade.
Trump is our only hope to get rid of these odious instructors that are nothing more then useful idiots themselves.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,663    
12 Oct 2018  #1,109
How am i contradicting the FACT that migrants disproportionately cause more violent crimes than native europeans? How many french christians massacred a group of innocent people in a coordinated attack? How many german Lutherans drove cars into crowds and attacked christmas markets? How many polish roman catholics blew themselves up while yelling praise jesus?

ZERO!

And its no different with rape. It is a FACT that most the rapes and sexual assaulys are caused by foreigners and not native europeans.

It's sad how blind and brainwashed you are to the point where you cant even admit that migrants and foreigners are disproportionately responsible for violent crimes namely terror, rape, murder etc

there's a political agenda afoot which promotes selective news reporting, that is, reporting only crimes committed by foreigners

Political agenda or not, it doesn't change the FACT that muslims are comitting basically all the terror attacks in europe. Ot also doesnt change the fact that foreigners are disproportionately responsible for violent crime.

Its no different than the us where blacks are only 13% of the population yet responsible for tye majority of murders.

Please tac, tell me how those articles contradict what i wrote and also answer the last question i asked - prove that migrants and foreigners do not commit disproportionately more violent crime, rape and terror than natives. You wont answer the question because you cant - it is fact that foreigners are disproportionately responsible for these crimes.
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,725    
12 Oct 2018  #1,110
The evil of immigration in any form can be shown even without proving that they commit crimes at the rates higher than the natives. Which is, of course, true. All you have to show is that those crimes are 100 percent preventable, self-inflicted and protected as normal for the foreign human waste nobody wants.

If the victims were only the political wh***s who let the garbage in and their kids, it wouldn't be so bad. The problem is that these bastards are safe. It's the rest of us who gets f*****d by those "doctors" and "engineers" from the s***holes that are yet to discover the benefits of toilet paper.



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