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"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)


Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,021
Okay....it's darkest night, you sleep peacefully but then your home is broken in by burglars, you and your wife are threatened and you both are scared to death till you see the criminals are white? What are you gonna do then? Thank the lord? Offer them tea?

REALLY???? :)
mafketis 37 | 10,894
7 Oct 2018 #1,022
.so thanks, but no thanks!

He's an idiot, pay no attention.

Dirk.... adult talk, stay away!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
7 Oct 2018 #1,023
What are you gonna do then? Thank the lord? Offer them tea?

No. They will die just as fast.
I used "black" to remove any element of hesitation from the mind of a typical Euro weasel who would reply to my example with: but what if this is my buddy next door who got drunk and broke into my house thinking it's his. That's why "black". Got it?

In the US, we don't retreat. Under the conditions I described, you fire and call 911 to pick up the bodies before they start decomposing and start smelling bad. I have no legal obligation to ask questions.

But, predictably, with your Euro mentality, you derailed my question with that why "black" bs. Now you know why. So what's the answer? Yeah, I know. Call the police, pray and sweet-talk to the m-f***** who are about to rape your wife and kill you to make sure there are no witnesses. Or run for your life, leaving her behind.

You, Euros, literally make me sick.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
7 Oct 2018 #1,025
You just make me sick. Just like the Chinks eating dogs.
This is my "Welcome" mat for the people who come uninvited at the wrong hours of the day. What is yours? Oh, you don't have any.



Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,026
Never needed one.
Nobody in my whole 'hood needed one ever. Is it that what makes you sick?

It seems YOU have a problem...good luck!

PS: The worst thing happening last week in my neighbour hood was a cyclist who was killed by turning truck...that's it.
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
7 Oct 2018 #1,027
often contradict any inner sense of justness!

You are jumping to conclusions here. We do not know yet the outcome of either investigations.

@Rich Mazur

I pity your grandchildren. You are more likely to hit them than any possible intruder.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,028
You are jumping to conclusions here.

Alone the fact that a father rescuing his daughter from an attacker get's an investigation, has to defend his action, is just wrong!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
7 Oct 2018 #1,029
Never needed one.

Neither did I because the m-f***** know entering most places here is a one way trip. That's how it's supposed to work.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,030
What I don't get is why are you so angry at Euros like me that you get literally "sick"?

Because we don't want weapons? Because we don't need weapons? Why?
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
7 Oct 2018 #1,031
Someone reported him to the police, and the police now investigates. What is wrong about this? This is how a justice system should work. If it is deemed as appropiate self-defence, he has nothing to fear.
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
7 Oct 2018 #1,032
Because we don't want weapons? Because we don't need weapons? Why?

Because you are pacifists who need us. And we are really getting tired paying for it.
Just look at the post above. Here is you answer.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,033
If it is deemed as appropiate self-defence, he has nothing to fear.

That reminds me about two cases I read about....

One was back at the infamous Silvester party in Cologne where one young man described that he didn't help his girlfriend which was attacked by some Nafris...the other one the boyfriend of this girl which was raped recently by this african on the meadows during camping (you know the court just ended recently). Who raped the girl and ordered the young man to stay in the tent...and the young man did!

There is something severely wrong here. And in my opinion it's these laws, when a man can't know anymore when he wants to defend someone dear in danger if he is still on the right side of the law when he helps, and not that he gets an accusation for helping afterwards.

These cases belong together....and THAT IS WRONG!
Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
7 Oct 2018 #1,034
This is why you will never tell the Americans to start packing and go home.
youtube.com/watch?v=BHOntiWtND8
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,035
Well...should the AfD get even more votes a NATO membership and the US presence in Germany will surely be a topic again, the sympathies with Putin's Russia are just to great.
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
7 Oct 2018 #1,036
and the young man did!

What do you mean?

I assume you mean the case in Bonn? I followed the trial and to me it seems that the guy made the right call (and his girlfriend agreed). Many people always imagine influenced by movies that they can play a hero if given the chance, but reality is very different. If someone comes at you with a knife and you are unarmed, you either run away, or do everything he says. The rapist had a knife at the throat of his victim either way, playing the hero might have got both victims killed.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,037
Tacitus....

The man sat in the tent hearing how the bastard raped his girlfriend...doing absolutely nothing! You can't tell me that's okay!!! I beg you...
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
7 Oct 2018 #1,038
What should he have done? He had no weapon and the culprit told him that if he heard any noise from the temt, he would cut the girls throat.

I do not know about you, but I have some experience in martial arts. One of the first things you learn is in practical self-defense is that fighting against someone with a knife unarmed is suicide.

But yes I know, you would have taken the bastard out like Bruce Lee. Though even Bruce Lee once said that he would never fight against a semi-competent armed assailant if at all possible.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
7 Oct 2018 #1,039
Well, I wan't better for my girl, she made a self-defense course...in that she LEARNED how to disarm an attacker with a knife, and the family is glad about that. There are kicks against the forearm possible which changes the knifed attacker into a screamer without a knife.

Just because someone is waving a knife in front of you that shouldn't force you into a state of shock and neither be an invitation for the attacker to do with you what he wants.

And seriously, if you aren't ready to defend your loved one in her hour of need, even if it means danger to yourself, frankly...your "love" is worth ****!

Would you had stayed in the tent because the rapist asked you to? Leaving your girl all alone at the mercy of this bastard? Could you live with yourself after that?
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
8 Oct 2018 #1,040
LEARNED how to disarm an attacker with a knife, and the family is

So she learned to counter a few highly telegraphed moves with no killing intent in a controlled situation. This is not going to help her at all if she ever finds herself in such a situation.

One real problem is that self-defense courses inflict on you a false sense of self-confidence. This overconfidence gets people killed!

Case in point. Just read this article, it is a real eye-opener.

cracked.com/personal-experiences-2124-6-things-you-need-to-know-about-self-defense-from-expert.html

frankly...your "love" is worth ****!

My love is also worth **** if i would get them killed because of my own overconfidence. I remember reading a lot of comments about this case where people accused the friend of cowardice. But nobody ever made a reasonable response what the friend actually should have done, given the situation.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
8 Oct 2018 #1,041
That rape must have taken minutes...minutes in where the bastard was busy, surely no longer with his hands on her neck...there must have been stones and sticks around...surely ANYTHING would had been better than doing nothing and keep sitting and listening to his crying girl...

Call it "cavemen" if you so want, but there are some basic actions which define you as a human being. NOT to keep sitting when your girl get's hurt is one of them.

PS: Another possible conncection to that "safety first" - thinking...the widely lamented decreasing will of "Zivilcourage". Because that's what it is. Fear of getting hurt, fear of doing the wrong thing and fear of getting accused from the state, getting punished for helping afterwards. So, better keep sitting and look the other way when someone is about to get hurt! Cowardice is so much safer!!!

THAT IS JUST WRONG!
Tacitus 2 | 1,382
8 Oct 2018 #1,042
Ghe culprit told him that he would cut her throat if he heard any noise from the tent. According to the testimony of the girl, he heard one noise and put the knife to her throat. She told him to finish and leave, which she did.

his hands on her neck.

The girl claimed otherwise. She also did not cry. According to her testimony, she tried to calm her rapist down and get it over with. A remarkeabky brave woman if you ask me.

surely ANYTHING would had been better

Like getting her killed?

It is easy for people to claim, removed from the situation, that he could have done something. Even with hindsight, you also do not have a clear answer. He was ordered to lie on the tent, and the culprit told him he would kill her if ge heard anything. Not much room for action there. But of course, you would have saved her... . Just like all the people who claim, that back in WWII, they would have either joined the Resistance are hidden some jews... .

the widely lamented decreasing will of "Zivilcourage"

That is no excuse in any case. You can always call the police nowadays.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
8 Oct 2018 #1,043
A remarkeabky brave woman if you ask me.

Brave or resigned, maybe she knew she couldn't count on her boyfriend.

But of course, you would have saved her... .

I would had at least tried something, I can promise you that...

And I would do that for any helpless girl. The same as I wish that when my girl is threatened there is somebody around willing to help her...and no coward with many arguments ready why he shouldn't/couldn't help!

Maybe that's really a difference between Ossis and Wessis....
mafketis 37 | 10,894
8 Oct 2018 #1,044
I followed the trial and to me it seems that the guy made the right call (

And someone made a very wrong call when they let the sex-criminal into the country (or decided to 'tolerate' his stay|). I very much doubt this was the first blemish on a spotless record...
Crow 155 | 9,025
8 Oct 2018 #1,045
Hoh, to put cross on myself and spit on the ground, look image that I got via my Sarmatian connection. People are upset of French influence in Poland

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Rich Mazur 4 | 3,053
8 Oct 2018 #1,046
The problem with the Euros is that you and your sick ruling elites desperately and deliberately try to blur the difference between the good violence and the bad violence. To you, all violence is bad. And the foreign garbage invading your homelands knows it. Hence, the rapes and the no-go zones.
Crow 155 | 9,025
8 Oct 2018 #1,047
Without picture that I gave with text, my previous post is like a naked.
Miloslaw 19 | 4,925
8 Oct 2018 #1,048
Trolls like RM way overplay the immigration problem in Europe.
Is it a problem?Yes!
Do we need guns to defend ourselves?No!
What country were victim to the largest and most horrible terrorist attack ever?The USA.
Did their guns save them?No!
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,831
8 Oct 2018 #1,049
Yeah...how many thousand get shot every year? Is that good or bad violence?
Spike31 3 | 1,813
9 Oct 2018 #1,050
So Ze Germans became cucks. I guess that's better for the future of "Mitteleuropa" but it also means that we'll have to face a Caliphate of Germany behind our western border in the future.

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