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"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)


Atch 15 | 2,520    
17 Sep 2018  #601
There's no reason for French people to want to settle in Poland. They have a beautiful country, the most visited in the world, a wonderful culture. Just because they want to have a holiday in Poland is no reason to imagine they would want to live there.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 8,870    
17 Sep 2018  #602
But a flourishing tourism industry is still good for business. And the human effect isn't to overestimate either. Every tourist to Poland brings back impressions, knowledge, stories and images, put's Poland "on the map", connects it to the rest of Europe in a way politics only find it hard to achieve.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
17 Sep 2018  #603
no reason to imagine they would want to live there.

Yes notwithstanding regular terror attacks, years of state of emergency, sh1t and p1ss everywhere you go in paris, more arabic speakers than french in numerous areas including all of marseilles, hundreds of no go zones, nonstop rapes and stabbings, hordes of migrants crowding subways and train stations looking for their next victim. Sure the buildings are nice, if you can imagine them without the graffiti (poland has this problem too, but atleast none of thr other ones related to turd worlders) but everything else sucks.

a wonderful culture

Hahahhaha

most visited in the world,

And chinas is third a tad below US, doesnt mean its a great place to live and chinese people with some money want to gtfo especially to canada, us and in some cases europe. Thats why chinese kids are starting to become the biggest ethnic group in us colleges especially in california
Atch 15 | 2,520    
17 Sep 2018  #604
Not only do you not know London well, you clearly don't know France well either. Outside of a few pockets of a few cities it's a predominantly white country and it IS beautiful and extremely civilized.
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,724    
17 Sep 2018  #605
Not long ago, California used to be "predominantly white ....beautiful and extremely civilized". And, then, the Latino garbage moved in to make California the exact opposite.

Just give France more time...
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
17 Sep 2018  #606
France already has more africans and muslims than any eu nation. Its already done for. If you wanf to see what germany will look like in 10 20 years look at france. Arabic will be more widely spoken than gernan, even more terror rape and murder, more no go zones, more problems....

Not only do you not know London well,

All i need to know is that brits are a minority in their own capital. Then add the sharia courts, theresa May, sadiq khan, thought crime police, etc etc and you have a cucked first world country that use to be great and is now facing sh1thole country problems because of all the people from sh1tholes they let in
Dougpol1 25 | 2,000    
17 Sep 2018  #607
lol

Que? Poland is absolutely NOT a destination for retirees from other countries - Lol yourself

At least in poland they feel safe and know some third worlder won't try mugging them.

Nah - they are much more likely to be killed here in a road accident.
Miloslaw 7 | 544    
17 Sep 2018  #608
Atch is right Dirk,not only are you ignorant about The UK,you are also ignorant about France.
I have lived in London most of my life and know you are wrong.
As for France,I have family and friends there and even lived and worked there for a while and know you are wrong.
You cannot use capital cities like London and Paris to judge the rest of the country.They are different worlds.
France's Arab and African population have been there for years......way before you were born kiddo and most of them speak and write good French,as they came from the old French colonies.In the main,French Muslims have been there for a very long time.

Yes,there are problems,but not directly related to recent events.
Marseille and nearby Toulon were "North African" before I was born,for me it is part of the appeal......as a fluent French speaker,I felt safer there than in New York or Chicago.

Please state "in your opinion"when you post,because that's all it is and based on dubious information.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 8,870    
17 Sep 2018  #609
You cannot use capital cities like London and Paris to judge the rest of the country.They are different worlds.

I think that counts for the whole West...there are the growing mega cities, bursting with people from all over the world...and then there are the whole rest, still relatively homogenous native.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
17 Sep 2018  #611
I have lived in London most of my life and know you are wrong.

Wrong about brits being a minority in their own capital? Cuz last time i checked that was fact.

standard.co.uk/news/uk/census-reveals-white-britons-as-minority-in-capital-for-first-time-8405998.html?amp

And this is way back from 2012 their numbers have fallen even more since...

thesun.co.uk/news/2099502/white-british-population-has-fallen-by-more-than-half-in-just-20-years-in-parts-of-uk-as-countr4k829168y38590333y-becomes-more-segregated/amp

Youre being replaced in your own country and already have been in your own capital.. sad... but thats what you get for being cucked... thank God poland isnt in this mess. We may be a lot of things but were not stupid enough to become a minority in our own homeland

In the main,French Muslims have been there for a very long time.

Im aware that france has been cucked for a long time. Thats why you have more arab speakers in marseilles than french. And paris is next. If it werent for all the west african french speakers thatd already be the case.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
17 Sep 2018  #612
@Dougpol1

Than why are you in poland if its such a terrible place? It isnt for the money as youd make more back in uk. Could it be because on a middle income you can live in a nicer and certainly safer area in poland than in uk where otherwise youd have to live around third worlders and by default third worlder problems?
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,724    
17 Sep 2018  #613
.there are the growing mega cities, bursting with people from all over the world.

...and without the consent of the people. That would be understandable in North Korea, China, and the USSR. Not in the EU and the US.

Consent of the people...What a joke.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 8,870    
17 Sep 2018  #614
Here I disagree....it seems to be very well with the consent of the people. Just think a minute about it. People make their choices with their feet, a true saying, not only for the poor and opressed but also for the rich and privileged.

When big parts of the youth in the West can't wait to pack their bags and leave their villages and towns to join a multi-cultural, multi-ethnical moloch then that is a choice, then that is a consent.

These mega cities are growing, that is a fact...also a fact is that our native still mostly white, cultural traditional land is dying out slowly (at least in Germany but I doubt that is only a german phenomenon)...one hasn't to like or understand it, but I think the youth makes their choice, that changing our societies towards a multi-ethnical one happens not only with their consent but with their support.

It is hard to find a different interpretation for that development...

(I start to think of the backyard of the building mega cities as some kind of reservation for the natives:)
Miloslaw 7 | 544    
17 Sep 2018  #615
@Dirk diggler

You really twist and turn and take comments out of context to further your agenda,whatever that is.....but you still talk b####cks....
Poland may not have these problems,but The USA does.....and most of those are home grown....please attend to your own back yard before critisizing others.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
17 Sep 2018  #616
Fine don't take my word for it even though ive been to uk several times, take a british guys word for it

youtu.be/3UG_N9H4XYY

And again, it doesnt change the fact that brits are a minority in their own capital. They even allow muslims to have a parallel legal society via sharia courts. Now thats a level of beta cuck beyond even germany....
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,724    
18 Sep 2018  #617
then that is a choice, then that is a consent.

Let me correct it.

Migration of any kind should require an informed consent. Would you believe that in an a street survey, half said they would like to abolish the 1st Amendment? That's how stupid young people are today. By informed consent I mean a full disclosure (1) how many will be admitted, (2) how they will be selected, (3) deportation policy, (4) where they are going to live, (5) where they are going to work, etc. Then, a referendum with 66% agreed before the first one is allowed in.

That's informed consent.
Asking a young guy if likes Muslim migrants is like asking pope if he believes in God.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
18 Sep 2018  #618
Poland may not have these problems,but The USA does.....and most of those are home grown....please attend to your own back yard before critisizing others.

The usa cant get rid of blacks, which are the ones disproportionately driving the murder rate and violent crime kind of like how muslims and 3rd worlders are in europe. Difference is you guys decided to let them in by the literal boatload in recent years. The us has policies to keep illegals out. And if they do come in illegally or even legally we dont reward them with food houses and money like uk germany sweden etc do. And besides i really dgaf about the us. The only thing i care about is the us economy and stock market, which is doing better under trump than ever under obama.

that changing our societies towards a multi-ethnical one happens not only with their consent but with their support.

I dont recall a referendum or vote ever been held that ask the citizens do you want to bring in a million third worlders. If it was im willing to bet in most majority white countries the answer would be no.

The left keeps pushing this bs that migrants are the answer to a labor shortage, that they'll be working and paying taxes which will fund our pension, that theyre the answer to an aging population, etc. Its all bullsh1t. In reality these people are nothing more than votes for leftist parties. First off the fact is that most of them are unemployed, have few valuable skills, tons are illiterate and very few want to assimilate so how could they possibly contribute to the economy? The government spends 25 bil a year on migrants that figure sure as hell isn't being offset by the taxes on migrants wages seeing as the majority are unemployed and will be for 5 years or even longer on average. Furthermore we dont need to import third worlders due to an aging population. Japan korea etc manage just fine. And if they want more native babies they should encourage the youth to have them like poland did with the 500 plus which immediately boosted birth rates.
delphiandomine 86 | 16,553    
18 Sep 2018  #619
It didn't work - money.pl/gospodarka/wiadomosci/artykul/maly-baby-boom-500-demografia,21,0,2404373.html - the positive effect was very short lived, especially as prices have risen dramatically under PiS (not a bad thing in itself, it means the economy is converging more with Germany's)
Tacitus 1 | 641    
18 Sep 2018  #620
It didn't work -

No surprise here. Germany has been trying for years to boost birth rates with similar measures, it doesn't make much of a difference.
mafketis 16 | 6,008    
18 Sep 2018  #621
As I keep saying (will someone finally listen to me?!?) the coming challenge is to figure out how to make an economy work with a declining number of people. It's quite doable considering how close advanced societies (like Germany) are to a post scarcity economy anyway.

The idea that populations have to always keep growing to keep the economy afloat is pure voodoo and unsustainable (since the Earth is a finite place - it cannot sustain an ever increasing number of people). Germany with between 50 to 60 million people would be a much greener and more pleasant place than Germany with over 80 million.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 8,870    
18 Sep 2018  #622
No surprise here. Germany has been trying for years to boost birth rates with similar measures, it doesn't make much of a difference.

The future of the world doesn't lie in ever growing numbers of humans.....breeding like rabbits won't secure our future (just ask Africa).
Atch 15 | 2,520    
18 Sep 2018  #623
ive been to uk several times

It's quite evident from the things you write on this forum that you don't know the UK well unlike many of us here who DO. You really have no clue what you're talking about. I'm willing to bet that you've never been even to one village within fifty miles of London.

brits are a minority in their own capital

Wrong.

Of the 8.88 million people living in London at the time of the most recent UK estimates, 3.32 million(37%) were born outside of the United Kingdom.

Of these, approximately a third were born within European Union countries, while the other two thirds were born outside of the European Union.

The most common country of birth for London residents outside of the UK is India.


When you talk about 'foreigners' in London, they are not all Muslims, refugees and welfare spongers. They are a huge mixture of nationalities and most of them are there to work or study. Many of them will not remain permanently in London so the demographic shifts all the time.

The largest 'foreign' population in the whole of the UK is Poles, followed by Indians, Pakistanis,Irish and Germans. 86% of the population of Britain is white, mostly British with a smattering of 'other white' as in European, American, Australian etc.The Poles, Irish and Germans combined far outnumber the Indians and Pakistanis. Those are the facts Adrian whether it suits you or not. Most crime in the UK is committed by white or black Brits, not by Muslim hordes and that's also a fact.

The irony is your obsession with the racial profile of a nation whose population is nearly 90% white when your own homeland of America has barely 60% white people and huge racial tensions that are not found in the UK as you would know if you'd ever lived there.

if they want more native babies they should encourage the youth to have them like poland did with the 500 plus which immediately boosted birth rates

The problem with those kind of programmes is that they generally encourage people at the lower economic level of society to take a casual attitude towards expanding their families. Those are often the kind of households who later have difficulty in keeping their children in education and raising them to make a contribution to the societies they live in. Also when the welfare programme runs out, as it will, there is even more misery for the children born into those families as their parents struggle to provide for them.

The successful programmes are those that provide good quality free childcare and training programmes for out of work mothers to encourage them to get into the workforce.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 8,870    
18 Sep 2018  #624
....the last time Germany paid and awarded women for having more and more babies was during the Third Reich, as Hitler needed soldiers for his armies.
Dougpol1 25 | 2,000    
18 Sep 2018  #625
on a middle income you can live in a nicer and certainly safer area in poland than in uk

It's very pleasant here but I nearly get run over every time I cross the street at the bottom of the road to buy the milk. Other than that, you do have a point about "nice."
Rich Mazur 5 | 1,724    
18 Sep 2018  #626
The future of the world doesn't lie in ever growing numbers of humans.....breeding like rabbits won't secure our future (just ask Africa).

Especially now with almost everything going auto.
To your sentence above, let's add ...neither does it lie in importing labor. If you (editorial) need more labor, take work to where labor is. When the work is done, let labor stay where it is - at home.
Dirk diggler 7 | 3,662    
18 Sep 2018  #627
the last time Germany paid and awarded women for having more and more babies was during the Third Reich, as Hitler needed soldiers

Yeah and it worked. 1 mln babies were born the year the program started

@Atch

The number of white British people in the capital fell by 620,000 - equivalent to the entire population of Glasgow moving out. The consequence, as revealed by the latest census, is that white Brits are now in a minority in London, making up just 45% of its residents.Feb 20, 2013

Minority in own capital according to census (old one at that) = cucked
Add sharia courts and thought crime police thats a level of cuck unseen in europe....

Of the 8.88 million people living in London at the time of the most recent UK estimates, 3.32 million(37%) were born outside

Does not make them brits. Just because a somali was born in uk theyre still a somali
Dougpol1 25 | 2,000    
18 Sep 2018  #628
It's quite evident

That post 623 is clear good sense and a concise summary of the facts. Thanks Atch.
I would add a rider, for Dirk's information, and that is that unfortunately a lot of racist Brits are sick of hearing Polish everywhere, which clearly contributed to Brexit - so screwing us all over - and they don't equate Asians as being "foreigners" when they can speak the vernacular (as they are in fact born British)
Dougpol1 25 | 2,000    
18 Sep 2018  #629
white Brits are now in a minority in London

But normal people don't care a jot about the colour of ones' skin Dirk. We are all the same. After all, you are clearly dirty in colour inside, and could be mistaken for a "white" man.

British people are in a majority as Atch showed. You are just backtracking. Admit that you were wrong and we can move on.

Just because a somali was born in uk theyre still a somali

Under British law - they are British. Sorry that offends you. Better stay in America, and don't bother visiting the UK if you feel that way?
mafketis 16 | 6,008    
18 Sep 2018  #630
But normal people don't care a jot about the colour of ones' skin Dirk.

Tell an African American that a normal person doesn't care about the color of their skin... I'd like to be a fly on the wall....



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