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Jesus Christ is Now Officially the King of Poland


OP dolnoslask 5 | 2,678
14 Dec 2016 #91
ts trend in France.

It's not a trend France has chosen democratically to be a godless nation, their choice should be respected, in the same vein Polands democratic choices should be respected .
Wincig 2 | 197
14 Dec 2016 #92
@Crow, & Dolno

Unfortunately, when you read the full article (in French, sorry), you will see that it is a little more subtle than what the headline in English says

lemonde.fr/societe/article/2016/12/03/haute-savoie-la-justice-ordonne-le-deplacement-d-une-statue-de-la-vierge-d-un-parc-communal_5042930_3224.html

And Crow, if there is trend, it is going in the opposite direction right now; Fillon, who has good chances to be the next French President, is a staunch catholic
OP dolnoslask 5 | 2,678
14 Dec 2016 #93
when you read the full article (in French, sorry),

There you have the advantage.

The BBC is also a well known propoganda government sponsored machine like RT.
blueredcat123
15 Dec 2016 #94
Amen Poland!
blueredcat123
15 Dec 2016 #95
This is extremely exciting. It is great to see so many unapologetic Christians commenting here too.
blueredcat123
15 Dec 2016 #96
The "level heads" talking nonsense about separation of Church and state can go to an EU techno-utopia. Though, on arrival, I suspect they might find they do not like being out in the cold but enjoy being the cold in the warmth better.

Also, the assumption that there is a neutral position that a nation can have is totally false. Yes or No. Against or With.
Crow 138 | 8,066
15 Dec 2016 #97
And Crow, if there is trend, it is going in the opposite direction right now; Fillon, who has good chances to be the next French President, is a staunch catholic

I`m not convinced. Today`s France is predominantly Catholic and spot the situation. Sad.

I only see that Julius Caesar done great job in Galija. He killed and massacred enough of true Europeans down there. Disguising Egyptian bastard. As all Romans.
cms 9 | 1,271
15 Dec 2016 #98
Of course there is no equivalence between the BBC and RT - i dont often watch BBC telly but listen to many podcasts on BBC that are critcal of the UK govt and many that are objective. You do not get that with RT.

blue red cat - there are many successful nations that practice the separation of church and state - and not just in the EU, it is a cornerstone of American public life. Examples of theocracies are far less appealing places to live - Iran and Saudi for starters.
Wincig 2 | 197
15 Dec 2016 #99
blue red cat

+1.. although having "In God we trust" as their motto makes the US a mildly convincing example of separation between church and state..At least, it is true that both deeply religious people and complete atheists can feel at home in the US ..
TheOther 6 | 3,821
15 Dec 2016 #100
it is true that both deeply religious people and complete atheists can feel at home in the US

Until you do a little research and find out that rapists and pedophiles have a better reputation in the US than atheists...
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
16 Dec 2016 #101
a little more subtle

For those not too fluent in French could you briefly explain on what that subtlety is based?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
16 Dec 2016 #102
separation of church and state

The formulation "separation of church and state" does not appear in the American Declaration of Independence. the US Constitution nor any other official state-shaping document. The only obłlique reference was that the state should not establish a religion such as the Chruch of Englnad or Lutheranism in Scandinavia. It was leftist s, atheists and Masons that overinterpreted that statement to try to remove religion from the life of the nation, but they have not succeeded, And never will!
OP dolnoslask 5 | 2,678
16 Dec 2016 #103
try to remove religion from the life of the nation, but they have not succeeded, And never will!

Amen
Wincig 2 | 197
17 Dec 2016 #104
@Polonius3
The statue was commissioned from public funds by the mayor of Publier without a debate and decision by the council. So a group of inhabitants of Publier attacked the decision in front of the judge (tribunal administratif). That is what triggered the whole case.
Crow 138 | 8,066
12 Jan 2017 #105
At a time of crisis for Christianity, when Vatican and Russia, Vatican and Serbians, too, solving their problems and unites against terrorism, at a time when newly elected Polish president announce his desire for stronger Poland thru Intermarium, in time when Poland struggles to establish control of refugee influx into Poland, when we see media pressure on Poland in western European media, violence of opposition in Poland, when Polish officials declare Christ to be King of Poland, ... we see NATO increase its militarily presents in Poland.
Ishallsurvive
22 Dec 2017 #106
However Christ refuses to take this job.
Crow 138 | 8,066
22 Dec 2017 #107
We don`t know that. How I see things, with Jesus as King, there are no obstacles for Svetovid to become at least PM. Good old boy would love it for sure.
Ishallsurvive
22 Dec 2017 #108
WTF Jesus will create new earth + new heaven, he will send all his church(honest ones to this new place) I highly doubt the fact he wants to stay with people who are influenced and look up to basretards like Americans and EwU
DanafromTexas
22 Dec 2017 #109
I am from the USA, but it seems to me that the Polish language and the Catholic Church have been critical in preserving Polish identity, despite centuries of being divided and ruled by the great empires. Now that Poland is not under the heavy hand of someone else, it is free to acknowledge and celebrate its own distinct culture. Obviously, there are some EU rules that Poland has accepted, and I do not know exactly what they allow.

I have spent some time in Costa Rica, which, according to its constitution, is a Catholic country (like the Vatican!). The people are very tolerant and kind, including to homosexuals and people of other religions and nationalities. They do permit other religions to have their own churches, but they also have a black Madonna (carved stone) who is the patron saint of the country, and the towns have their own patrons. This would be impossible in the USA, because our constitution requires separation between the church and government. I am Lutheran, not Catholic, and find nothing oppressive about being in a Catholic country. I like thinking of the Mother of God as Queen of Costa Rica and Empress of the Americas, even if no other countries officially recognize her like this.

Poland has a history of being more tolerant than some of its neighbors. Surely this religious ceremony, which doesn't touch your constitution, will not change this aspect of Polish character? The kind and good people will not change. Hopefully, haters will find greater opposition if they try to riot and cause injury to others under the banner of Christ or in His name.

My opinions are made with love and admiration for Poland and its people, but from an outsider's point of view. I hope nothing I said offends anyone, it is not my intention. Merry Christmas everyone.
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
22 Dec 2017 #110
The Poles do indeed remain a stubbornly proud and fiercely independent people, that's for sure! That conservativism has certainly protected them thus far against the slings and arrows of outrageous multiculturalism which has bombarded the entire continent, often at the expense of social peace.

What's the humane solution? Unfortunately, I can't say.

Texans are similar to an extent, wouldn't you say?
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,490
22 Dec 2017 #111
Texas has its own land bureau the us federal government is constsntly fighting to take more and more states rights from texas. Much like the eu is trying to do to poland. Thankfully poland and the v4 have become wealthy and are fiercly resisting multicultualism, migrants from outside of europe, gay marraige etc. Slavs never were never all that accepting of such things. Its the same in czechy ukraine russia etc. Slavs want to remain the rulers of their own country and be homogenous in terms of demographics. Its our country and if politicians who were elected bc they had a populist protectionist euroskeptic platform then thats clearly what the majoriry of voting citizens desire.
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
23 Dec 2017 #112
Thanks for your reply, Dirk! Suspected as much, to be frank. As Texas once wanted to secede from the rest of the US, so too Poland seems to want to remain separate from the rest of the EU:-)
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,490
23 Dec 2017 #113
Some Texans wanted to secede since immemoriam.. but now its more that they just want to have a lot of state rights. The thing is it was basically gobbled up by the us. Most ppl dont know it was its own country before the republic of texas. It had like 10 official and regional languages i cluding czech and creole. I didnt find out till recently

Texas is rly diverse mostly white texans some mexicans who dress texmex and some blacks but they all get along for the most part. Ppl r very friendly. Also the state is rich all of texas is worth roughly 400 bil more in terms of gdp than russia.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,490
23 Dec 2017 #114
The good thing is in a way us is a bit more stable than poland. These lil european countries any little thing flairs up and its a big deal. Esp now with nato poking the bear and tripling its presence around russia since the 90s despite mutual treaties
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
23 Dec 2017 #115
You're probably right on the mark there, Dirk.
johnny reb 21 | 3,934
23 Dec 2017 #116
Jesus Christ is Now Officially the King of Poland

Jesus Christ has 'always' been the King of Poland because He is the King of kings.
Ishallsurvive
23 Dec 2017 #117
In your bed time stories "YES" but in reality if he ended up in Poland you would prosecute him, burn him and crucify him all over again just as the pagan Romans did, Pilate did not want to kill Jesus, in fact he wanted him to be on his side, who wouldn't want God on his side, He did kill him anyway on the request of the crowd ;) so as believers in him who would prosecute him you are equal to Pilate and maybe worst because you believed in him and knew he was the alpha and omega but still refused to obey him due to greed. I mean what a great deal that you made with your Saviour haha jk

NOT :D
Lyzko 25 | 7,145
23 Dec 2017 #118
This is of course, the Christian conception, Johnny!

There's more than one faith, as well as more than one point of view:-)
On that note, a Merry Christmas to you and a Happy Festivus to the rest of us.
johnny reb 21 | 3,934
1 Jan 2018 #119
True but there is only one mortal man that died and arose again and ascended into heaven to sit at the right hand of His Father God Almighty.

His name is Jesus Christ, the King of Kings because no other god of any other religion ever beat mortality like Jesus did.
Of course it is a Christian concept, Poland is a Christian country that celebrates the resurrection. (Easter Sunday)
Crow 138 | 8,066
1 Jan 2018 #120
Jesus Christ has 'always' been the King of Poland because He is the King of kings.

Do you believe, dobri brate, that Christ and Svetovod mutually recognize each other? I sometimes contemplate on their relationship


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