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Gazeta Wyborcza of Poland losing readers


Harry
18 Apr 2016  #271
According to many PFers, you tell more lies than that every single day.

Perhaps you'd care to quote some of those supposed lies? Or are you unable to do that due to those lies being just like the supposed name change of GW you wrote about: just another product of your fevered imagination? I've already quoted you lie for the day from yesterday (the supposed name change of GW) and your lie for the day today (that my motto is 'another day, a dozen new lies'). It looks like you produce more fiction that Fakt.

Your latest is that Michnik's rag is the largest selling daily.

GW is the largest selling daily newspaper. Fakt is the largest selling daily publication but it's not a newspaper.

One of your lies was repeated by lower-case jon just yesterday that I sought employment with the kosher gang.

Well, if you really want to bring up your employment, didn't you post a while back about having worked for a news agency for 32 years? Given that only three news agencies have operated in Warsaw for that long, and you lack the citizenship required to have worked for two of them during that time, if your post is true, you would have worked for a certain news agency which just so happens to have a Jewish name, largely because it was set up by and owned, until quite recently, by a Jewish family. Are you sure you want to claim you have never "sought employment with the kosher gang"?
jon357 63 | 14,124
18 Apr 2016  #272
but you really met him? how not surprising.

Thousands have. Being a well-known MP and now the Mayor of a city. And all.

In your tiny little mind

In the "tiny little minds" of all those who buy it, and even more, those who use the website as a news source or even, like Po, as their email provider.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Apr 2016  #273
kosher gang

The international news agency is not generally perceived as Jewish although the baron who founded it was. But you claimed I was rejected for employment with Michnik's rag.

Mayor of a city

...City? They probably don't even have a cathedral there. Isn't that what distinguishes a city from a town. Słupsk is a provincial backwater. No decent city would want a pervert as a mayor.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,651
18 Apr 2016  #274
...City?

One of the oldest cities in Poland. I thought you'd know better than that, Polonius.
Harry
18 Apr 2016  #275
The international news agency is not generally perceived as Jewish although the baron who founded it was.

It was founded by a Jew and owned/controlled by Jews for more than a hundred and fifty years. It is far more Jewish than GW ever has been or ever will be.

you claimed I was rejected for employment with Michnik's rag.

It's not only me who can tell that entirely accurate story; and it's pretty clear to everybody on this board what the source of your hatred of Michnik is. And of course there's the fact that Michnik is a man of principle who went to prison rather than go against his conscience, entirely unlike you.

I thought you'd know better than that, Polonius.

Has he yet learned that it's not a port (due to not being on the coast)? Not that it's any surprise to see him sneering at a city in what he calls Polska B.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Apr 2016  #276
entirely accurate story

You are the one that told it so don't backpedal and try to pull a fast one like "I'm not the only one" or "everybody knows". The only thing everybody knows is that Harry is the biggest liar on PF. Another Harryesque lie: VIP lager. Stuff like: "He's probably on his second 6-pack by now." I have never consumed a single six-pack in one day in my entire lifetime. Hence a total lie. Another is the alleged Kosher connection. The only Polish papers I ever wrote for were "The World of English" and briefly English learners columns for 2 Polish dailies: the Catholic daily "Słowo" and conservative "Nowy Świat" (both long since defunct). Never had anything to do with Michnik's rag. So that's another Harryesque lie. And what about the lies about Jana Pawła II and 27 sq. metres and the Ukrainian connection. Everybody on PF remembers your feeble attemtps at denial. One could go on and on....
jon357 63 | 14,124
18 Apr 2016  #277
They probably don't even have a cathedral there. Isn't that what distinguishes a city from a town

Not in Poland. You ought to know that by now.

And of course there's the fact that Michnik is a man of principle who went to prison rather than go against his conscience

Very much so - one of the reasons he and the newspaper he edits are so respected.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
18 Apr 2016  #278
Michnik is a man of principle

The only principle Michnik knows is geszeft ist geszeft as he counts his sheckles of which there are fewer and fewer. Sales of GW are declining and the once pricy adverts from state-treasury companeis have dried up.

Not that he or his family will ever go hungry. They've got plenty of nest eggs strategically stashed away. !שלום
Harry
18 Apr 2016  #279
The only principle Michnik knows is geszeft ist geszeft as he counts his sheckles of which there are fewer and fewer.

Of course there are fewer and fewer: the attempts by the lovers of PIS to play with the economy have been driving the zloty into the toilet. Perhaps if you read GW instead of relying on government propaganda you'd have heard about that.

Not that he or his family will ever go hungry.

Yes, one can't imagine Michnik not even having enough money to paint his house.
jon357 63 | 14,124
18 Apr 2016  #280
sheckles

What are 'sheckles'?

Sales of GW are declining

All print media is declining, however as a news provider, the Polish Gazeta Wyborcza is doing fine.

it's pretty clear to everybody on this board what the source of your hatred of Michnik is

Yep, looks that way, doesn't it.
Lyzko 23 | 6,539
18 Apr 2016  #281
Sheckles are those things which manacle us to something and prevent us from being free.
Wulkan - | 3,251
19 Apr 2016  #282
All print media is declining, however as a news provider, the Polish Gazeta Wyborcza is doing fine.

After all, half-witted people who don't know how to use the internet have to read something as well.
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #283
That's what Poland's ultra-nationalistic press is for, such as it is..

Really Wulkan, anyone interested can look online and compare for themselves...
Wulkan - | 3,251
19 Apr 2016  #284
That's what Poland's ultra-nationalistic press is for

And which one is this?

Really Wulkan, anyone interested can look online and compare for themselves

Yes, GW is for deluded idiots.
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #285
So you keep saying, Wulkan. And that doesn't make it true.

It's still Poland's main newspaper, still independent and still evidently irritating you.
Wulkan - | 3,251
19 Apr 2016  #286
It's still Poland's main newspaper

You still haven't defined "main".

still independent

German capital

still evidently irritating you

I couldn't care less about GW, but it's fun to watch you getting frustrated when seeing some painful truth about your favorite rag.
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #287
That's actually rather lame, Wulky.

It's still the top selling quality newspaper, still the only one with an international reputation, and yes, still an independent media source. One with a highly respected editor too, a man interned by the communists during the Solidariy years.

German capital

Floated on the Warsaw stock exchange.

And all this however much you dislike the fact that it doesn't reflect your extremist (and as a long-term economic migrant to the UK) very out of touch views. And in Po's case because they wouldn't give him any work for the obvious reasons...
Wulkan - | 3,251
19 Apr 2016  #288
Floated on the Warsaw stock exchange.

Hah, yes you are not a stock trader so how could you know that it doesn't make any difference.

still the only one with an international reputation

source? :-)
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #289
On you to disprove it, boy.

If anyone unfamiliar with it is interested, their website is: wyborcza.pl
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Apr 2016  #290
still independent

But not of the Soros mob.

Not in Poland

Anyway, in case you're interested, Biedroń's whistle stop does not have a cathedral. In the 1990s there was talk of creating a Diocese of Słupsk and elevating St Mary's Church to a cathedral but it didn't work out. Słupsk ended up in the Koszalin-Kołobrzeg diocese.

they wouldn't give him any work

Shall we ascribe that lie to you or your Brit Bully master? The list of his lies is so long that you'd better take it for him and lighten his load.

What are 'sheckles'?

Misspelling. Should've been: shekels.

Gazeta Wybiórcza

Like the crafty shysters they are, the Czerska Street mafia are now trying to worm their way out of their scandalous attack on Poland's widely respected First Lady.

They write: "We did not regard the gossip about the Duda family as a fact and we did not build our narration upon it. We merely called it up as part of the message functioning within public space, mainly online. We informed out readers that those rumours were being spread by a person known for disseminating slander. We did so not to repeat them but to disavow them... We apologise to those readers who misinterpreted out intetnions."

Slick, glib and slippery as befits that band of shysters. Why doesn't GW "merely" print the gossip and rumours about Michnik and his KPP-rooted mafia circulating in public space, notably online. That would fill at least two weekend issues of the paper. And nothing would boost sales of those issues more. One could imagine huge queues otuside news agent's and black-market sales of those issues at treble the normal price. But only a goy would do something that flash-in-the-pan stupid. If Michnik wanted to cash in, he'd serialise the rumours, assuring a boost in sales over an extended period.
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #291
But not of the Soros mob.

What are 'the Soros mob'?

As far as I know, the excellent Mr Soros is a fund manager, not a media tycoon.

The list of his lies is so long that you'd better take it for him and lighten his load.

From you that is rich...
mafketis 20 | 7,252
19 Apr 2016  #292
"We did not regard the gossip about the Duda family

So..... Duda's not slippin' it to Kaczyńska after all?

Kind of a shame, it was the first interesting thing I'd ever heard about him....
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #293
So..... Duda's not slippin' it to Kaczyńska after all?

The Duda/Kaczynska thing is nothing new and is hot news due to the wife leaving. Perhaps Po thinks the country's main newspaper should have remained silent on the topic everyone was talking about. Basically take the North Korea approach.

But only a goy would do something that

Obsessed with Jewish people....

Kind of a shame, it was the first interesting thing I'd ever heard about him...

Yes, and in every other country the rumours would be front page news (remember John Major and "Clare's Kitchen"?) so no reason to ignore the elephant in the room here.

PiS really would prefer a return to PRL censorship and media manipulation - they are quite transparent and shameless about this.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Apr 2016  #294
o the wife leaving

Some proof or more kosheresque hearsay and gossip? BTW, R U 1 2?
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #295
kosheresque

R U 1 2?

Do explain...

As I say, there are sadly some who would prefer a return to PRL-style government control of the media...

Fortunately, that isn't going to happen.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Apr 2016  #296
PRL censorshi

As we all know, it was the Platfus gang that censored numerous documentaries and continued the "półkowniki" (shelfer) policy of the commie regime. Only now are these PO-censored films being aired on the telly.
mafketis 20 | 7,252
19 Apr 2016  #297
Only now are these PO-censored films being aired on the telly.

And how are the ratings for tvp?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Apr 2016  #298
GW are again displaying their "objective" adn "balanced" reporting. Recently Michnik's rag reported that Poland's Catholic had an approval rating of 55%, but embellished it to read: "only 55%". Funny they never say KOD enjoy the support of "ONLY " 40% and PO of "ONLY" 12%.

The rag's regular readers have been brainwashed so they don't even notice such tendentious, subliminal phrasing and tend to uncritcially accept what they read as true.
jon357 63 | 14,124
19 Apr 2016  #299
And how are the ratings for tvp?

Exactly. And though Po and other authoritarian ultra-nationalists may dislike the idea of a highly respected newspaper that doesn't share their views, the media independence they despise is not about to go away.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,448
19 Apr 2016  #300
media independence

Money talks and Soros' billions DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Soros-style media independence means that his spies, plants, contacts and subservient NGOs see to it that the leftist, PC, globalist, multi-culti and pro-perversity line is promtoed, all others are muzzled. You'd love to see that happen in Poland as we all know, but don't hold your breath.


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