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Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland?


Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #361
:-)!!!\

Anyhow, let's hope that a Le Pen defeat will signal a further weakening of far-right support throughout Europe, namely in Germany come this Fall.
Joker 3 | 2,324
7 May 2017 #362
Not much of a happy ending for anyone who can see three moves into the future....

The terrorists will be emboldened to commit even more deadly attacks upon the citizens of France.

Anyhow, let's hope that a Le Pen defeat will signal a further weakening of far-right support throughout Europe, namely in Germany come this Fall.

While you live inside your imaginary safe zone.
Bieganski 17 | 890
7 May 2017 #363
Did you hear about Macron's associate dying shortly after the leaked e-mails were published ?

Interesting. A few months ago there were also reports of Macron having a gay lover. This is very plausible given his childless marriage to a woman a quarter of a century older than he is. It would also explain his unquestioned support among some posters here on PF.

Merkel too is old and childless (old-school lesbian perhaps?) and fully supports Macron.

Obviously these two fringe characters have no personal investment in Europe's future and so cannot relate to the average person from their own demographic group. Their preference for replacement immigration from the third world is little more than taking the attention-seeking fad among Hollywood celebrities in adopting African babies to a geo-strategic level.
jon357 74 | 22,051
7 May 2017 #364
Absolutely. All the computer hacking that points to Russia (and their 'asset' Assange) all those 'alt-right' stooges in America and the dodgy individuals behind them, all the ham-fisted attempts to shift the Overton Window rightward were too crassly transparent in the end.

Good that it's taken this French election to turn the corner.

Otherwise things would be very bad for Poland.

edit

It's official, Macron 65.1%, Le Pen 35.9%
Joker 3 | 2,324
7 May 2017 #365
It would also explain his unquestioned support among some posters here on PF.

Fortunately, the posters on PF don't resemble anything close to reality.
jon357 74 | 22,051
7 May 2017 #366
reality.

Reality is Macron 65.1%, Le Pen 35.9%
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #367
@Joker, no place is "safe" any longer, at least not in the way you and I understand the meaning of the word. However, far-rightist agitation certainly doesn't make things any less dangerous. Strong-arm bully tactics only beget more of the same.

Sort of reminds me of the justification for many years of the late John Gotti's("The Dapper Don", "The Teflon King") living protected for so many years in his neighborhood of Ozone Park, Queens, despite his legion killings and brutal crimes. Allegedly, he was best friends with local law enforcement and kept the streets "safe", yet at what a cost!!
Joker 3 | 2,324
7 May 2017 #368
Reality is Macron 65.1%, Le Pen 35.9%
I guess its a good day for gays and liberals of France:)

You get what you ask for, good luck!
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #369
Because someone presents an intelligent, well-thought out counter argument, you figure they must be gay and or a liberal? While we're calling one another names, just what persuasion are YOU???
TicTacToe
7 May 2017 #370
Not surprising really that it was that. I'm not surprised at all. France though is in for some serious shocks if it thinks because Macron has been voted president that things will change, I think not.

An all time low turnout of voters too
cms 9 | 1,255
7 May 2017 #371
If by liberals you mean people who love freedom then yes it is a good day. France invented liberty, felicitations to them on their wise choice to reject a return to the 1930s.

As I said on the day of moron Trumps inauguration, the world look very different by the end of 2017 and we are on the way there. The Dutch and now French voting for the future and not for divisive undereducated demagogues who offer no credible policies.
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #372
According to yahoo.news, Macron just declared victory!! VIVE LA REPUBLIQUE! VICTOIR!
Joker 3 | 2,324
7 May 2017 #373
you figure they must be gay and or a liberal?

Or maybe you didn't bother to read all of the above posts?

Before you start accusing ppl

reports of Macron having a gay lover. This is very plausible given his childless marriage to a woman a quarter of a century older than he is.

Bieganski 17 | 890
7 May 2017 #374
Reality is Macron 65.1%, Le Pen 35.9%...You get what you ask for, good luck!

Q: How many troops does it take to defend France?

A: No one knows; it's never been done before!

This time however there will be no treaties to negotiate or Allied forces to come over the horizon to liberate Paris and free France.

Macron offers nothing for France's youth (or by extension Europe's youth) but joblessness, despair, and demographic replacement. He should just drop the pretense and mail them cyanide pills.

Before you start accusing ppl

Indeed, this information can be found with a simple search. Sure, he denied the claims but that is only to be expected of a politician. They never tell the truth.
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #375
And what pray does Le Pen offer France's youth, for pity's sake???! Hate, Vichy-style revisionism, xenophobia etc..???
TicTacToe
7 May 2017 #376
Hard Brexit here we come.....
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #377
If France ever decides to dare attempt a repeat performance of what Britain's undertaken, we might as well all be whistlin' Dixey instead of the MarseillaiseLOL
TicTacToe
7 May 2017 #378
I'll give France a week and then the union's of France will be whistling dicey.
Bieganski 17 | 890
7 May 2017 #379
At the very least Le Pen would have ensured France's youth weren't having to compete at home with third worlders for jobs at slave wages. Or having to see their future pensions raided and diverted to pay for their demographic replacements.

You think Macron will be able to prevent hate and xenophobia among those facing long-term unemployment, hopelessness and poverty? Wake up!

Of course Macron and the leftist media will simply go into totalitarian crackdown mode on anyone who dares to question him or his regime.
Lyzko 45 | 9,417
7 May 2017 #380
As I recall, the Nazis destroyed all trade unions, tossing their heads into concentration camps! Had Mme. Le Pen declared victory, what subtle form of manslaughter might we expect on the program, huh? All free thinkers to be thrown into prison?!

And this is the same country that produced the likes of Voltaire and Jean Moulin??? Anti-Semite though he surely was, Voltaire surely wouldn't have sought to revise his own country's history:-))
Wulkan - | 3,203
7 May 2017 #381
Predictable, France has been doomed for a while anyway, even Le Pen's victory wouldn't help. France is now both legs in the new world order. Kind of funny I must say :-)
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
7 May 2017 #382
The Dutch and now French voting for the future and not for divisive undereducated demagogues who offer no credible policies.

It's a clear rejection of the Russian-backed populism that our non-Polish posters on here have been pushing down our throats. One has to ask why they were so adamant that Le Pen offered the best hope for Poland when every Polish person (including the government) knew that Le Pen was the party of Russia.
TicTacToe
7 May 2017 #383
As you recall the Nazis destroyed all the union's, hmmm and that's what EU backed Macron wants to do. Interesting.
TicTacToe
7 May 2017 #384
@delphiandomine
Well considering a factory in Macrons home town is closing and moving production to Poland, this he wants to stop, is good for Poland ?
mafketis 37 | 10,882
7 May 2017 #385
Machron appears to be maintaining a healthy lead and so this encouraging

Not really, it's a tragedy that France was reduced to this choice..... the ethno-religious tensions aren't going to subside because Macron has no policies that even come close to addressing them.

When bad stuff happens (and it will, it's baked into the system right now) it will be the fault of those in favor of short term fixes rather than addressing the systemic problems

Europe is building up to a very large ethno-religious conflict and Macron's victory just brings that closer....
Bieganski 17 | 890
7 May 2017 #386
It's a clear rejection of the Russian-backed populism

Hilarious!

So will Macron be declaring war on Russia over election interference? Nope. Won't happen. Ever.

That being the case you can be the first one on here to make your pledge tonight that when Macron is next seen smiling and shaking hands with Putin in a photo-op hoping to seal a trade deal with Russia you will come back on here to withdraw your support for him and apologize to the forum for backing a French president who was never a friend of Poland.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,163
7 May 2017 #387
The continued rejection of the right wing continues in Europe. It's clear that Russian-backed populism has had its day, and with the AfD in electoral trouble in Germany, it seems that 2017 marks the year of the fight back against such parties. Austria, the Netherlands and now France have clearly rejected such parties, and the reaction from Russian trolls online is plain to see.
mafketis 37 | 10,882
7 May 2017 #388
for backing a French president who was never a friend of Poland.

It's not exactly like Le Pen was a friend of Poland. Poland has no friends at present in the West, partly this is due to the west and partly due to Poland. But that's the situation at present. Better realize what it is than have pleasant delusions....
Bieganski 17 | 890
7 May 2017 #389
It's not exactly like Le Pen was a friend of Poland.

But unlike Macron she wouldn't be meeting with Merkel and that big creep Juncker to threaten Poland with sanctions for not taking in unneeded migrants from outside the EU. At least Poland has PiS in government to push back and put Poland's interests first.
mafketis 37 | 10,882
7 May 2017 #390
At least Poland has PiS in government to push back and put Poland's interests first.

Don't be silly. PiS can't even keep Hungary as a friend.... (see anti-Tusk jihad failure).


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