About fifty injured after two trains collide in Poland

Who is responsible ? Government !Their management or lack of such is a main reason Polish Railways decline !

Don't be ridiculous. Saving lives costs money, you can spend a infinite amount and make travel so expensive that nobody travels and you have 100% safety.

30 lives in six months is nothing, how do you define needless deaths? how much would it cost to save them and where will the money come from? Surely it better to spend money improving road quality, after all 30 dead is a normal three days road death toll or a bad Saturday in Poland.

That's because this route(Przemyśl, Rzeszów, Kraków) is the main route from and to Ukraine(Lviv, Kiev).

That much I knew. But for some reason I thought that all the trains from Warsaw were now 'change at Krakow for Przemysl'.

you wouldn't be saying that if your mother/father/brother/sister had been travelling on the train.


Both need to be done.

I'm still mystified why EIC trains run through to there - I can only assume that there's some sort of political signifiance behind that one.


A fair assessment. SLD, AWS, PO, PiS, all of them have failed to deal with the monster that is the railways here.

In fact, funnily enough, the PZPR probably did the most for railways in Poland. It was the post-communist governments that devastated PKP.

We I can almost definitely say that it wouldn't have been. In fact i doubt anyone on this forum knows anyone who have died on the railway, you are more likely to win the lottery.

In contrast I know a handful of people who have died on the roads and even know someone who died hang gliding and someone who died drowning in her bathwater.

I suspect that most, if not all of those who died on polish railways last year a) committed suicide b) trespassed on purpose or c) was driving a vehicle when they were hit by a train. Barely possible to prevent that sort of thing.

R.I.P

Yep, i know a few that have died and plenty that had life changing accidents - all road associated.

I always thought that was an urban myth.

"It takes just six inches of water to drown".

Ask Whitney Houston.

My friend had an epileptic fit in the bath.

There does seem to be a blatant disregard for human life in Poland from what I have seen. I think it's the A1 they are building over from Germany to connect up with the section to Poznan. Where they were building the bridges cones funneled the traffic and narrowed off the road directly under the new bridge. Not in a smooth fashion over a distance but abrupltly over 50m approx with nothing seperating the traffic from both directions other than luck. We drove this route several times and each time I had the urge to spell out my utter disbelief at what I was seeing to my Polish partner who was a non driver so was oblivious to the danger. Low and behold on our last drive down this route we have a head on collision between two trucks.

This WAS going to happen. It was OBVIOUS it was going to happen so the attitude must of been SO WHAT!

One of my friend's music students was pushed off a train on the way back from a lesson. An evening one to Otwock. The people robbing him just opened the door and pushed.

Since then there are security guards on the Warsaw commuter routes, but usually they just sit in the front carriage and do nothing.