European News and Poland Thread - part 5

He isn't. They forgot to tell that the so-called Free World is Zionist.

... well, Polish bishops certainly are. ;)

You mean the esteemed cardinal ryś? Co on pierdoli? ci zydzi złwapali go z prostituką albo chłopcem?

@Amiga

I was kidding.

Cardinal Ryś is an upright shepherd of the Church and a wise theologian. He and the episcopate said nothing more than what John Paul II and Benedict XVI taught about the Jews before. Lefebvrists and Braunists are reading too much into the document in question, as usual.

If you're saying israeilis/jews are gods chosen people then you're saying they can do whatever they want and christians in comparison are pieces of sh*t.

Your conclusion does not logically follow from the premise.

Being God's chosen people, as they undoubtedly are, is a covenant that entails responsibilities and obligations, not something that implies moral superiority or gives permission for unethical behaviour. It also doesn't mean that other groups are worthless or inferior.

Of course, Catholic Church is the New Israel and we have the new and better covenant through our Lord Jesus Christ; we are no longer under law but under grace (say what you want but I'd rather follow 10 commandments than 613 ;)) but that doesn't necessarily render the old covenant invalid. God is extratemporal and He moves in mysterious ways.

However, if you feel that you're ready to try and argue that John Paul II (a saint) and Benedict XVI (future doctor of the Church) were wrong in their theological statements on judaism, then go ahead. Good luck with that.

Cardinal Lynx is a heretic and should be burned at the stake, together with anti=pope, WTF?
I was ready to sort out the secular world, but it seems I have to take care of the clergy, too.
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No, we Catholics are chosen people; they used to be till JC. After that, they are only former chosen people; it matters because they were first, so what is left of them is supposed to stick around to witness the second coming of Christ. That is their title, reserved ticket in the first row, nothing more, that's all that was promised to them.

LOL, you don't understand that jewish ethics is totally different to christian ethics, so to us it does appear unethical but to them they are following the will of god
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There's video of evangelical children being taught in class literally, "the jews are chosen by god they are better than us"

So Jews are Gods Chosen People but Christians are Gods Super-Chosen people? LOL Why did not the cardinal mention this?

I attended Saturday Vigil in a joint polish/english mass. When the exodus reading was read out in english with polish subtitles, you know about parting of the sea. Izraelici was mistranslated to Israelis (Izraelczycy) which refers to citizens of the nation-state of Israel. Even the term 'Israel won a great victory' was used.' Like WTF? Coflating the biblical Israelites to Israeli citizens is heresy Yet this happened in a catholic church! I emailed the priest about it's important for the parish to be awarer about what sort of message it's puting out but no response yet, This happened because of fools like Ryś. His letter was problematic in not just what he said , but what he omited, esp anythihng jesus being the path for redemption. He even said the biggest problem is anti-semitism instead of the child genocide is gaza and the destruction of iranian society.

Meanwhile tens of thousands of christians are being ethnically cleansed in Lebanon and their ancient villages destroyed and not a peep from the church because 'chosen people' 'pray for peace' blah blah blah.' Impotent f*cks.


Or I'll just convert to Orthodox. Sick of this proto christian-zio sh*t. The catholic church has been infiltrated by Freemasons and Illuminati for centuries anyway.

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Careful there, Iron.


That's what I said:

JC? What's that? I know that some Jewish rabbis refer to Our Lord Jesus Christ as JC (or JCPenney) but I wouldn't expect that from you!

Anyways, if you want to argue with the giants like John Paul II and Benedict XVI, and call cardinals heretics, then knock yourself out, Iron, but you are stepping on thin ice... very thin ice indeed.

He's stepping where any man with a conscience and a brain needs to step.

What do you mean? I studied mussar for quite a while and it is, all in all, an admirable ethical system. You are probably talking about some fringe rabbis' interpretations of certain talmudic teachings but they are a tiny minority - we have our hate-spreading idiots in the Catholic church too.


What protestant Zionists teach their children is completely irrelevant. If they add another heresy to an already existing one, that's their problem.


Again, there is nothing new or unorthodox in the episcopate's letter. I agree that the moment they chose was unfortunate for political reasons but bishops don't have to (and maybe even shouldn't) be concerned too much about politics.


Well, you could do worse than that I suppose. But still, you would be joining a schismatic Church, putting your soul at peril.


This is undoubtedly true. Saint Maximilian Kolbe talked about it many times.

As for the quotation from the photo - I really don't believe Manis Friedman said that. Yaron Reuven, yeah, Yosef Mizrachi - sure, but not Friedman, he's a Jewish Boniecki lol. Tell your mates who make those memes to choose their 'villains' better. Do some research FFS.

BS, it's mainstream since October 7 and openly taught by Army Rabbis and others. It's just how the jews think, that's o.k every culture should have itheir own morals, even if it means killing kids in war is encouraged, i mean we do the same with abortion.


I asked Grok.

"Yes, the quote is real and accurately attributed to Rabbi Manis Friedman.
It comes from his response in the May/June 2009 issue of Moment Magazine in the "Ask the Rabbis" section. The question was: "How Should Jews Treat Their Arab Neighbours?"

Chabad-Lubavitch is the biggest hassidic organisation in the world and are known as the rabbis of washington and the jewish oligarchs in america. They're also really into the end times, the greater israel project and building the third temple where the mosque is now. .

Earlier he sent Rubio to prop him up. This week, Vance is being deployed to Budapest to likely give a speech in Orban's support.

Less than ten days to elections, and an American vice president is parachuting in to save Orban...

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I wonder if people in the Trump administration, understand that Peter Magyar is a former Orban protege and longtime Fidesz party member?

His wife is the former Fidesz Minister of Justice.

Did someone (Orban), somehow convince Trump that the opposition are some kinda woke queers hoping to flood Hungary with Papuans?

The choice in the Hungarian elections, is between an older and more corrupt conservative, and a younger and still less corrupt conservative.

Liberal politicians seem to have no way of winning elections in that country.

Is this worth such blatant election interference that even Vladimir Putin would blush at it?

Hm... looks like even moderate rabbis have their moments of madness sometimes. However, AI says that he later claimed the wording was misleading, taken out of context, and he meant something else. One way or another - some Ukrainian Orthodox priests blessed the weapons with which UPA murdered Polish civilians and encouraged them to do so. What does that prove about Orthodoxy? Exactly nothing. Only that in every religion there are people with various degrees of mental retardation.


No, it's not. Trump is embarassing himself, and I hope Orban loses the elections.

It never stopped me before.

Magyar has a very strong lead.... but because of the gerrymandering done by Fidesz over the years - he really needs to win big to force them out.

Orban could easily lose the popular vote by a wide margin, and still remain in control of parliament.

They redrew districts in such a way, that heavily populated, opposition-dominated areas got jammed tightly into a small number of districts. Rural areas, instead, were spread over many constituencies and turned into little Fidesz Festungs.

What it does in practice, is (1) the opposition wins some districts with huge margins, (2) Fidesz wins many more smaller districts with smaller but sufficient margins.

Orban also created 106 single-member, first past the post districts. This matters because because the opposition is still rather fractured internally, while Fidesz runs as one unified bulldozer bloc.

Then he changed to rules in a more sneaky and subversive way, by devising a system that compensates losers by taking the excess votes from districts they won, and adds it back to the national tally.

Finally, you have the Hungarians abroad. Orban's most reliable tool.

If you are Hungarian citizen who is working abroad (more opposition leaning typically), then you have to come to an embassy and vote in person. However, if you are ethnic Hungarian living in a neighboring country, but a Hungarian passport holder - you can vote by mail.

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TLDR - Magyar's "commanding lead" as reported by the mainstream press, may not be quite sufficient enough to overcome all the tricks deployed by Fidesz.

Orban was certainly being consulted by Republican (US) and United Russia (Russia) political technologists when building this system, because it's all the same tricks.

I don't understand why you would hope for him to lose. It makes no sense to me.

Nothing he does is harmful to Poland; in fact, quite the opposite. He stands against the European Commission, which is a good and needed thing to do. Those people are ineffective and are leading the EU into disaster. Not to mention that for the past couple of years, they have been making illegal grabs for power and influence that they have no right to.

In short, the EU, in its current form, is the biggest obstacle on the road to prosperity and strength for Poland. We can't afford to flatter ourselves, especially with those pesky Russians to the east. Meanwhile, the Ukrainians are more trouble than they are worth. Their only value lies in distracting Russia from focusing on us.

Where is that?

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Did you know you just linked to a far right propaganda site


Apart from supporting r*SSia...

I just wanted to know where that happened....such a nice town from the look at it....somewhere in Poland....

Really, where does he support Russia?

He and his FM have both visited russia, and repeatedly called for an end to sanctions, has said Ukraine can't win, has no sovereignty and is not a real country etc etc
Haven't you been paying attention?
There's tape of Szijjarto (FM) talking to Lavrov about removing an oligarch's worthless sister from a sanctions list..

There's an absolutely rational explanation for this foreign policy stance.

Hungary.... and Slovakia, and Serbia (outside the EU) - make ridiculous amounts of money from the Russian hydrocarbon trade.

This keeps their states afloat, despite the EU withholding covid and defense fund disbursements.

Because it's a bilateral deal with Russia, shadowy and grey as it is, they can be masters of the divvying up of these funds. They can direct it to friendly businessmen, vulnerable populations, etc.

Being friendly with Russia is literally existential for Orban, and a bit less so for Fico.

One estimate I seen - before the Ukrainian cut off of Russian energy supplies - is that the Orban government could be making as much as $20-30M a week on Russian energy trades.

$20-30M a week, is more than enough to die for, and do all sorts of crazy things for.

Imagine you are Orban's son-in-law, Istvan Tiborcz....

You already are the richest businessman in the country (maybe not officially). You own half of Budapest's hotels, key industrial enterprises, and financial holdings (benefiting significantly from Brussels disbursements).

Some people would say - "Stop now! You have enough!"

But that is why these people are not Istvan Tiborcz.

Imagine your wealth increases by $5-10 million a week. What would you do to stop the person that wants to put an end to it?

I don't know what he would do - but I would reach out to the Kremlin and promise everlasting fealty if only the Tsar agreed to destroy all my enemies....

... and for this kind of job, even Donald Trump is a worse ally than Vladimir Putin.

Warsaw, rosary for Ukraine, mostly Wojownicy Maryi (Mary's Fighters). Statistically, hundreds of those men had their families' members slaughtered in Wołyń and they are kneeling, praying for Ukrainians. It does make me proud, I admit.

There were parallel events in Szczecin, Gdańsk, Elbląg and other cities back then.

By the way - Mary's Fighters are badass. You don't want to mess with those guys. Their original rosaries, especially the large ones, can be used as weapons not only in spiritual sense. AntV, whom I will have the honour of meeting personally tomorrow, has one of those and can confirm. :)

Hug him for me!

Wow! Thank you Torqi, I knew I could count on you....and....WOW!


...yeah.....greetings from me too! :)

@Bobko

Will do. :)

@BB

Happy to help!

corruption.... the awful miasma that spreads anywhere where there are russians.... tell me about it....

Well, did it work? He got some kickbacks from Russia. Dude is working in the interest of his country as he sees it.
Now, seems that sanctions are things of the past, and as a matter of fact, only suckers like Poland really enforced them to that extent. Wasn't Trump talking about ending sanctions while he decided to F it all for us with his war on Iran?
We all should be making money in this war.
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In Poland or in the US? Whichever it is, give him five from me!
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