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Crow 150 | 9,566
7 Dec 2020 #181
It looks strange for me to name any settlement after a mud.

Never exclude `vulgarism` when enter in the head of ancients. They were blunt, primordial, sincere, clear. For example, Serbs would say KURAJBER for the 9 the generation back in family (son, father, grandfather.... 9th generation). Word is in use even today and had to be old as time itself is old. KURAJBER is from KURAC (literally - di*k), One Who Have D*ck. So, ancients who invented word considered their 9th ancestor the One Who Have D*ck. See now why is Serbian oldest Slavic and European language.

But, in this case I would bet on BRLOG and also very possible BRVNO as original.

BRVNO is wooden trunk, with removed branches, ready for use in building the wooden house- log cabin. So, if you build wooden settlement you would maybe eant to name it BRVNO, or how I see that R is softened among Northern Serbs, it went to BERVNO.

But, I would still bet on BRLOG. Its in connection to animistic belief of ancients in animal protector. They built settlement and it was their house. They just sanctified it by giving name BRLOG, house of the Bear. That gave them sense of power and security. It had to be BRLOG.

In modern day Serbian... Let me give you some more ancient Sarmatian ..

1 - SIN (son), 2 - OTAC (father), 3 - DEDA (grandfather), 4 - PRADEDA, 5 - ČUKUNDEDA, 6 - ASKURDJEL, 7 - SUKURDJEL, 8 - REBALO, 9 - KUREBALO, 10 - KURAJBER, 11 - BELI ORAO (white eagle). It is ancient and it is today. Spot how KUR (di*k) is usual and at the 11th generation you have trace of animism, most admired animal protector- eagle.

Sorry, my mistake. KURAJBER is 10th generation before son. Most words I even can`t translate in English because don`t even exist in English. That way of thinking is with time lost in English, that is very young comparing to Slavic languages and Serbian.
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
7 Dec 2020 #182
our capital isn't named after a mighty powerful animal or something nice and honorable.

We really should have kept Bonn as capital (just kidding).

In all fairness, Berlin wasn't really all that remarkeable before German unification when it started to grow into one of the worlds largest cities.

Heck, Brandenburg was seen as a giant "sandbox" until the late 17th century since it had now industry and even agriculture was doing badly due to its' sandy terrain.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,455
7 Dec 2020 #183
, Berlin wasn't really all that remarkeable

I still think Berlin was a poor choice. It's required huge amounts of cash and continues to suck up even more, yet it's geographically far away from the economically important cities in Germany.

I'd have kept the federal capital in Bonn and designated Berlin as the historical capital. It would have allowed the government to remain in the West, while accepting that Berlin had a special place in German history.

By the way, any idea why Adenauer didn't push for Koln as the capital? He was a former mayor there, and it would have made a sensible capital.
Crow 150 | 9,566
7 Dec 2020 #184
Berlin is fine. I think it go back to rightfull owner. As well as the Arkona and Rujan. Bonn can continue wherever it go anyway. In well deserved Africa.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,386
7 Dec 2020 #185
Bonn would never have been the real capital of a unified Germany....only of West-Germany....to tiny and small and backwater....and they promised!

*sticks tonge out and runs*
Lyzko 31 | 7,843
7 Dec 2020 #186
Sorry to disagree, Delph, but historically as well as culturally, it makes a heck of a lot more sense than Bonn, even though Beethoven's birthplace:-) Baggage of the Third Reich notwithstanding, Berlin remains the first capital of the German Empire.
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
7 Dec 2020 #187
any idea why Adenauer didn't push for Koln as the capital?

Well, Cologne was among the candidates and Adenauer initially supported the bid. In the end it mostly came down to politics. The SPD wanted Frankfurt, while Adenauer's party was split on Frankfurt or Cologne and some for Bonn. However Adenauer warned that if Frankfurt was chosen, it would be seen as a political victory for the SPD, thus the CDU settled on Bonn as a compromise.

It also helped that Bonn had suffered much less destruction than Frankfurt and Cologne, and that there were representative buildings that were not occuppied by the Allies.

It's required huge amounts of cash

Berlin's city government is honestly a joke and incredibly incompetent, but that was not really forseeable in the 1990s.

federal capital in Bonn

I like Bonn, and as someone from NRW I'd love to have the federal government in my federal country. However I must objectively say that there is just no comparison with Berlin. Bonn with its' homely charm was a decent choice for post-war Germany, but it is simply not a fitting representative for a reunited Germany. It is also great gesture to have the place that embodied Germany's division more than any other as the capital of a reunited country.
Lyzko 31 | 7,843
7 Dec 2020 #188
Yes, Cologne might well have served as aneutral alternative, yet, as the old nostalgia says, "Es gibt nur ein Berlin", much less, "Ich habe 'nen Koffer in Berlin"
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #189
Berlin should have been flattened and blacktopped as a reminder that there are consequences to being barbarians. As of now, there are none.
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
8 Dec 2020 #190
Well, it was pretty much flattened along with most other cities.
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #191
...but not blacktopped beyond resurrection.
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
8 Dec 2020 #192
That is pretty difficult to do. The Romans burned Carthage to the ground and (allegedly) salted the Earth, yet the city was rebuilt.

The Americans nuked Nagasaki and Hiroshima yet those cities still exist.

Besides, it is rather interesting that you consider Nazis barbarians, given your previous comments.
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #193
Europe and specifically Germany should forever be under the US and the Soviet supervision since you guys can't be left alone. Then keeping Berlin flat and uninhabited would be easy.
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
8 Dec 2020 #194
Maybe the US, but the SU is certainly not a role model, let alone a moral authority. Her successor Russia is also the one that currently destabilizes Europe.
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #195
Bad Russia. NATO snaking toward her has nothing to do with it, right?
cms neuf - | 1,624
8 Dec 2020 #196
What are the Soviet rapist troops going to supervise ? Illegal stills making vodka out of old potato peel from the army kitchens is about the only thing they were good at. Their last few outings have been defeats to medieval tribesmen and a war in Syria they knew how to start but not how to finish

Anyway they have their hands full with the illegal occupation of Crimea.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,386
8 Dec 2020 #197
Besides, it is rather interesting that you consider Nazis barbarians, given your previous comments.

That are russian Nazis for you....Hitler was coooooool.....but the Germans fighting for him?? Raze them!!!

Crazy people....especially as that are the same who cry about the current ongoing destruction of Germany by them foreigners, as if they would care about it's fate...it's kind of schizophrenic, isn't it...
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
8 Dec 2020 #198
NATO snaking toward her has nothing to do with it, right

Of course not. It is purely because Russia still wants to act like a 19th century country instead of a modern country.

it's kind of schizophrenic

True. I guess you have to be schizophrenic in order to be a Nazi in Russia in the first place.
Crow 150 | 9,566
8 Dec 2020 #199
Russians are wise. They build Nord Stream with Germany and later take it all. Take entire Germany.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,386
8 Dec 2020 #200
Take entire Germany.

What are they gonna do with it then?
Vlad1234 16 | 756
8 Dec 2020 #201
Probably Old Polabian was an infant terrible of the Slavic language family. Not even Czechs could remind anything similar to their claimed mud/swamp vocabulary. It would be interesting to ask an alive Polabian native speaker, if it is still an alive language.
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #202
who cry about the current ongoing destruction of Germany by them foreigners

Nobody is crying about the current ongoing destruction of Germany by them foreigners. Many are mad as hell that the guilt-ridden German morons with Merkel leading the parade turned Germany into a re-distribution center of the foreign human surplus.

You want them? You keep them and f**k off the sane part of Europe.

Clear enough?
Lyzko 31 | 7,843
8 Dec 2020 #203
Atonement for past wrongs is hardly a spigot which can be turned on and off at will, Novi! Germany has every right, both constitutional or otherwise, to draw upon her recent past and not "move on" until she's good and ready!
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #204
hardly a spigot which can be turned on and off at will, Novi!

Let them atone. Poland has nothing to atone for and would like to keep German atonement in Germany. The problem is that Germany would like to share their atonement with their victims.
dolnoslask 6 | 3,074
8 Dec 2020 #205
Germany would like to share their atonement with the ex-victims.

Yep It does seem that way, at least they are quiet for now.
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #206
My hope is that from now on, even the virtue-signaling weasels will be wondering, oh my God, what have we done! Good, serves you right, a-holes.
Lyzko 31 | 7,843
8 Dec 2020 #207
"Poland has nothing to atone for.." I guess that Jedwabne and Kielce were somewhere off on Mars, thereby absolving Poland of any responsibility, eh?
Novichok 1 | 4,387
8 Dec 2020 #208
I guess that Jedwabne and Kielce were somewhere off on Mars,

You guess wrong. Both are in Poland. Now what?
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,386
8 Dec 2020 #209
Clear enough?

I will remind you when you start next time to try to "wake up the Germans on this board"....you hypocrite. Every foreigner is better for Germany than your kind, you whining loser!

*cry...sniffle...cry...them brown muslims...are coming...gulp....sh'ts pants...they will destroy us....I'm sooo scared....sniffle...cry....I need to bore other people on the forums about it endlessly...help*

LOSER!
Crow 150 | 9,566
8 Dec 2020 #210
What are they gonna do with it then?

I think they populate wast lands in Russia with refugees from western Germany, when they start to abandon Caliphate. Later they came, liberate and that what remain in western Germany and in eastern Germany they re-educate. Then they create some new Slavic state of entire Germany. Probably Lusatian Serbia. Then? Who knows, they maybe decide to merge southern and northern Serbia and create Great Serbia. Then it become Greater Serbia. He, he


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