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mafketis 29 | 10,018
4 Dec 2020 #121
The problem is it's not theirs

The irony of Mr. Sarmatia's viciousness toward Ukrainians...
Crow 150 | 9,565
4 Dec 2020 #122
The problem is it's not theirs to take or give away

Don't. It will be. Its inevitable.

Lenka, dobra sestro, its alright. Rus was born in Kiev. Its their and even more, same way some things there belongs to Poland. So, much better Poland get those things instead that Vatican hold Poland while Germany taking it.

The irony of Mr. Sarmatia's viciousness toward Ukrainians.

Sarmatism is older then Ukraine. If Ukraine is turned to Sarmatism instead to germanism, Serbs would talk differenrly. What remain healty Ukraine and what is Ukraine would be Ukraine.
Lenka 3 | 2,737
4 Dec 2020 #123
Its their

No, not anymore.

much better Poland get those things

Even better if Russia leaves them alone
Crow 150 | 9,565
4 Dec 2020 #124
No, not anymore.

Don't be romantic here but realistic, darling.

World is in tuemoil. In a few years there would be parts of global Caliphate in Europe. Russia must consolidate to be able to confront Caliphate. Its in all Our interests. If out of order Ukraine would be flooded with chaotic process of settling refugees from Israel and Germany. Ita a big game. Ukraine as it is not capable to cope with it, to remain Slavic. Its already object of germanization.

So, lands of what is now Ukraine goes to Russia, Poland and some will remain Ukraine eventually, if capable to be healthy.

Even better if Russia leaves them alone

Serbs see Ukraine as weak point of Slavic world. It is decided to be corrected. Same more things and countries, too.

One of reasons Ukraine was destablized was plan to weaken region demographically and then flood it with non Slavic refugees when chaos occur. But, Slavs ie Sarmats arent stupid. We know.

Fragmentation of Yugoslavia was also part of that plan. But, Serbians stood and hold. Evil plans would be ruined.
Lenka 3 | 2,737
4 Dec 2020 #125
Don't be romantic here but realistic, darling.

I am. Much more than you are.
Russian aggression on Ukraine would only straighten Polish fears and the gov would quickly turn even more to NATO.
Not to mention that even most nationalistic parties accept the borders we have
Novichok 1 | 4,386
4 Dec 2020 #126
The problem is it's not theirs to take or give away

The western part of Poland was not Poland's to take, either.
Lenka 3 | 2,737
4 Dec 2020 #127
True, but it was Germany that invaded Poland so tough sh*t
Novichok 1 | 4,386
4 Dec 2020 #128
I like your bluntness. But that was a rationalization of Poland's aggression - which I wholeheartedly agree with, btw. I would go a lot further and erase Germany as an independent state. Twice was enough.

Russia has a major problem of a slow-moving snake, or cancer if you prefer that analogy, called NATO - pushed from behind by the globalist mafia with scum like Soros in charge. Russia also remembers that every aggressor had to roll through Ukraine to get to Moscow. They also remember that Ukraine liked and helped Hitler. With all that, Russia is remarkably civil these days. It should have taken Ukraine overtly by brute force the moment the West pulled that stunt in 2014, as I recall.

Yes, I like Russia a lot more than Germany, the UK, and France.
Lenka 3 | 2,737
4 Dec 2020 #129
rationalization of Poland's aggression

Defending is not aggression. Once a foreign army goes through your borders you have the right to kick their as*. It's completely different than 'oh I like this place, let's have it'.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,384
4 Dec 2020 #130
A russian Hitler worshipper!

I've seen once a Doku about you guys in Moscow and Sankt Petersburg....crazy stuff! ROFL
Ironside 51 | 11,510
5 Dec 2020 #131
They will give the rest to Poland.

lol!
I have seem what they allegedly offered and I must say they think Poland's politicians are morons( well they are not wrong) but still they offer is not enticing at all.

only straighten Polish fears

What fears? Some fearmongering by politicians trying to score some cheap points.

I like Russia a lot more than Germany, the UK, and France.

Because you don't understand them and their ways. You have stuck on the way things were done in the 19th century. Now is more about so called economical exploitation. You seem to be talking slogans and claims uttered by the politicians of said countries' on its face value.

Russia is nothing to be admire or like. Beside their politicians and spies that are doing well on a diplomatic stage, If we talk economy or running their own country not so much.
Novichok 1 | 4,386
5 Dec 2020 #132
If we talk economy or running their own country not so much.

I am talking only about the instinct of self-preservation. Period.
Once you (editorial) lose it the way the US and Western Europe did, you (editorial) are a dead man walking. Russia has problems, but its instinct of self-preservation is intact. All else is crap. The same applies to people. A person who lost the will to live and protect those who depend on him is human garbage.

The above is basic to life and is never outdated. The Western white man has surrendered to the hordes and betrayed his race.
Ironside 51 | 11,510
5 Dec 2020 #133
True,

youtu.be/V67r48_4Ol4

True,
Crow 150 | 9,565
5 Dec 2020 #134
Russian aggression on Ukraine would only straighten Polish fears and the gov would quickly turn even more to NATO.

Eh, aggression. In a world without international order you don`t have term `aggression`. When NATO countries attack its legal even when UN says its illegal.

Not to mention that Ukraine was part of Soviet Union. Borders were drawn there by the wish of communist leaders. Only naive expected those borders to be `eternal`. But NATO says should be `eternal`.

Lenka. Lenka, darling.

Not to mention that even most nationalistic parties accept the borders we have

Caliphate and Nazis won`t care for borders. Just wait.
Novichok 1 | 4,386
5 Dec 2020 #135
Caliphate and Nazis won`t care for borders. Just wait.

Spot on. She is still thinking that conquests are only by tanks and planes, not by the hordes that act like cancer.
Crow 150 | 9,565
5 Dec 2020 #136
Lenka is from Poland, isn`t she?

Anyway, she is fine. Just mainstream on certain topics. None of us is immune to media pressure and focused education.
Vesko Vukovic 1 | 155
5 Dec 2020 #137
but the version published by historians who point out in annotations every lie, copied idea and logical fallacy which Hitler included.

archive.org/details/adolfhitlerweimargermanywasaparadise..._201907

archive.org/details/AdolfHitlerYouSaidIWasADreamer_201903

Ok so what here that Hitler stated is a lie, fallacy or isn't true?

When Hitler and the National Socialists came to power, he basically said we're going to hit on the jews because that's where the money is. That's how he succeeded to make Germany great again.
Crow 150 | 9,565
5 Dec 2020 #138
he basically said we're going to hit on the jews because that's where the money is

Hitler lied. He was by certain Bank circles from western Europe and USA set on power not to hit Jews but Slavs. Aim was to reduce Slavs and steal their resources. Jews were moved and some died in the process but final aim was genocide on Slavs.

See, Napoleon and Hitler were on the same job, in the same business. After all, France comes from Franks.
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
5 Dec 2020 #139
Ok so what here that Hitler stated is a lie, fallacy or isn't true?

Hitler lied or distorted the truth constantly in Mein Kampf. About himself, the past, his crude comparisons from the animal kingdom and so on.

That's how he succeeded to make Germany great again.
@ Vesko Vukovic

Going after the Jews was one of the most disastrous decisions he made, even before the Holocaust. It robbed Germany of so many of its' best and brightest minds via expulsion and migration.
Crow 150 | 9,565
5 Dec 2020 #140
Hitler, Germany, ... non of that would happen is Sarmats in time killed all Romans who always had a dream to merge Europe and Egypt and Black peoples. That obsession later was passed onto entire western Europe and the EU. Our ancestors greatly failed. But fortunately, at least, they managed to establish a clear border along the Central Europe and Balkan, when they sow something is amiss. That is why Sarmats ie Slavs used name MUTE (Nemci) for the first Germanics. Not just because of the language but also because of the delusion they recognized.
Novichok 1 | 4,386
6 Dec 2020 #141
Quoting from dailymail.com:

The Tories, even before then, had been worse than feeble. But Cameron wanted office at any price. And the price was that his Tories would be allowed back into the office, provided they swallowed the Blairite programme and did not try to reverse it.

This was not so hard. For decades they had done nothing actually conservative. To switch to being actively Left-wing was not a huge leap.


Now, let's replace Tories with Republicans, and we have an exact copy of the UK mental disorder here. Two parties pretending to be opposition and the stupid voting mob buys it and eventually cheers when "their" guys win. Sure.

We were helping the wrong side.
Crow 150 | 9,565
6 Dec 2020 #142
Just sow on TV. Eastern Germans have warm feelings for Russians, on the contrary to western Germans who hate them. It was also said how are eastern Germans dissapointed in western Europe and EU.
Vlad1234 16 | 756
6 Dec 2020 #143
Eastern Germans have warm feelings for Russians

I think it depends on cultural exposure and personal encounter. Western Germans rarely meat them in person and never watched Russian movies/TV programs. Therefore they used to believe that all people from the East are the aliens from the movie "Alien".
Ironside 51 | 11,510
6 Dec 2020 #144
Germans

BB are you disappointed in western Europe and EU?
Tacitus 2 | 1,387
6 Dec 2020 #145
Therefore they used to believe that all people from the East are the aliens from the movie "Alien".

Naw, we don't hold anything against Russians themselves, their depiction in West German media was usually sympathic than e.g. Hollywood films. It is just that we have a more critical and less romanticized view Russia, seeing it as the corrupt state run by oligarchs with a revisionist agenda that it is.
Crow 150 | 9,565
6 Dec 2020 #146
BB are you disappointed in western Europe and EU?

Sure he is. In secret he pray Berlin to become part of Poland. Or if Poland fail to follow right direction, part of newly emerged Kashubia or Lusatia ;)
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,384
6 Dec 2020 #147
BB are you disappointed in western Europe and EU?

Being disappointed would mean having other/higher expectations....in that regard no, I'm not. For me personally both "delivered"....I like my life!

And we all know it could be so much worse...
Ironside 51 | 11,510
6 Dec 2020 #148
Sure he is. In secret he pray Berlin to become part of Poland

Good on him!

Being disappointed would mean having other/higher expectations

I know, you cannot speak your mind as in Germany big bother is watching you. I feel you bro! Hopefully your secret prayer will be answered./
Crow 150 | 9,565
6 Dec 2020 #149
And we all know it could be so much worse...

How true. And non can tell from where that can hit you. What is today good, tomorrow may be bad and vice versa.

Being disappointed would mean having other/higher expectations

Wise words.
Bratwurst Boy 12 | 11,384
6 Dec 2020 #150
I know, you cannot speak your mind

Do you think I'm lying?


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