Poland's election winning party: PIS proclamations

In the US when a party wins it places its own epople in positions of power. Since, for the first time, one party is able to rule independently, that should be the case here as well. Unlike a loyal oppostion, the poor losers are whinging, nitpicking and fault finding rather than putting their own mucked-up house in order. And they should apologise for i.a. hijacking people's retirement nest-egg (OFE) to shore up their budget deficit. That will be long rememebred by Polish voters.

They're more than welcome to do it, but bear in mind that politics is a long game. Putting Kukiz in the Culture Ministry would be an excellent way of silencing potential opposition, while also ensuring that he will carry out something that resembles their agenda.

More to the point : where is Beata Szydło? She's gone missing... hahahaa.

In other words acting a lot like PiS in opposition....

"A report, published on the official website of the Law and Justice (PiS) party, is highly critical of the grouping's campaign proposal to introduce a financial transaction tax (FTT)"

thenews.pl/1/12/Artykul/228154,PiS-expert-scraps-partys-policy-proposal

Some may say that they are already looking for excuses for failing to deliver what they promised.

"The original page has been removed from PiS's website"

And this shows lack of communication internally between them. That can't be healthy.

Merged: Poland's Ruling Party(PIS) Announces Makeup of Cabinet

Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Culture - prof. Piotr Glinski
Mateusz Morawiecki Development Minister - Deputy Prime Minister
Minister of Higher Education - Jaroslaw Gowin
Law and Justice deputy chief of the Office
Head of the Political Cabinet - Elizabeth Witek
Head of the Defense Ministry - Antoni Macierewicz
Minister of Justice - Zbigniew Ziobro
Minister of Energy - Christopher Tchórzewski
Head of the Interior Ministry - Law and Justice deputy
Minister of Agriculture - Law and Justice deputy
Foreign Minister - Witold Waszczykowski
Minister . The EU - Konrad Szymanski
Minister . Relations with Parliament - Adam Lipinski
Anna Streżyńska will be Minister of digitization
Dawid Jackiewicz will be Minister of the Treasury
Konstanty Radziwill will be health minister
Elizabeth Rafalska will be Minister of Labour and Social Policy
Mariusz Kaminski coordinator . Special services

i think its an excellent cabinet..especially when compared to Kopacz clowns,its champions league level vs local bums.
i like Kaminski and Ziobro most.after what they did to Kaminski in this farce trial,now its payback time and time to clean up Polish "justice" system from PO appointed crooks.

what you think of those guys?

Looks to be a promising line-up, although I'm not familiar with all the newcomers. But let's not forget that the Platfus losers will keep doing everything in their power to stoke the Polish-Polish war. The tiniest misstep, gaffe or sour expression and the nitpickers will zoom in and stir up a fuss. After all these years, they're qutie good at that. Fortunately, all the Platformers can do is rant, rave and fume in impotent frustration and fury.

Another good example showing how you have been brainwashed by anti-Polish propaganda. "Seizing complete control of everything" as you call it is what the party winning majority of seats in the Parliament is expected to do in any normal country, that's what they are paid for. Only in "reality" animated by TVNs/G(ó)W(no)s appointing members of government by the party that won democratic elections is somehow "dangerous for democracy".

Doesn't mean it's a good tactic in the long run for them.

Anyway, it's all good. PiS winning outright means that they'll have absolutely no possibility of blaming anyone other than themselves when it all falls apart.


I think you don't really get it, do you?

Still, your obsession with TVN/GW shows that you're just another typical PiS supporter.

You're not very familiar with them, are you?

Starting to sound very much like the Israelis. Any disagreement and you're labeled the enemy.


Like comparing migrants to a disease. Tiny misstep lol

It's important to remind people which media they should not listen/read if the want to know the truth.

Nobody compared mirgants to a disease (apples & oranges?) but correctely warned that an unrestrained influx of poorly educated people with poor personal hygiene potentially bearing exotic diseases from a subtropical region constitute a health threat to Europeans which they do. Only the dingbats who believe in the "someone-may-be-offended" PC dictatorship wish to suppress the truth. But utlimately the truth will prevail and, like the lying and scamming Platfusy, the liars will end up on the rubbish heap.


Anyone who believes the BS being concocted and churned out by Telewizja Nonsensowa (TVN) and Gówniane Wieści (GW) should have his head examined!

Yes, the problem with that media is that it actually is independent of political parties. What a disgrace - we all know in the Brave New Poland, the media exists solely for the government.

Yes, but soon Telewizja Polska will become Telewizja PIS, and the rest of the media will be scorned as Jewish-owned running dog lackies of the capitalist wreckers.

HAHAHA and all them medals Tomasz Lis Received from Komorowski.


Better PiS than PO as it has been until now.

In your Poland, people would only have access to PiS approved media.... For their own good of course.

Not at all. Fools will continue to have access to any media they like inlcuding GW (Gówniane Wieści) and Urban's Church-bashing smut sheet "Nie". Both

are great to line a dust bin or wrap yesterdays' garbage in.

While still pretending to be absolutely anti-communist, of course.


Of course. That's why they need to pay for it through their electricity bills, as it makes sure that they're free to consume the approved media.

Yes, her term as PM is clearly not what was really wanted by the PiS leadership. It is interesting and heartening how intense the blowback was to the initial suggestions of dumping her in favor of Glinski. I disagree with a lot (most) of her policy but in the campaign she was offering a different brand of PiS (which is what voters wanted - a change) and the party will lose a lot of support without her.

The single fee covers all radio and television sets in a single households. One can stop paying the fee by getting rid of one's radio-TV receivers.

The nitpciking Platfus losers kept grumbling about Kaczyński running things from the back seat so the govt line-up was annoucned by both him and Szydło. The PiS govt is a team operation. The "power" (siłowe -- what would that be in proper English?) ministries are manned by Kaczyński's tested colleagues, whilst the economic ministers were selected by Szydło from amongst her associates. She was in charge of drafting PiS' economic programme, so each side of that winning tandem did what they do best. The result: a great government line-up!

At the minute, yes. But the PiS proposals entail forcing everyone to pay regardless if they have a receiver or not.


Which is very embarrassing, considering that the Constitution makes it clear that the most powerful office in the country is the Prime Minister. The repeated sidelining of Szydło is becoming an absolute joke. Duda's sychophantic words towards "Premier" Kaczyński says it all.


No good translation, as far as I know - it's a rather Communist concept to associate those ministries with power.

A team operation? We saw who took the limelight at 9.01pm. It wasn't Szydło.

We all know how PiS works. PO had a contest to determine the leader of PO in the Sejm. PiS elects Kaczyński unopposed. Says it all.

The point is that it's not up to the losers or any outsiders to decide who speaks, announces or does anything on the winning government team. Kopacz's embittered resignation speech told it all. Reps of all the remaining parties and privately even some PO stalwarths felt it was very petty, mean-spirited and in extremely poor taste. Luckily all the losers can do is sit by, gnash their teeth, spew their vitriol and pretend they don't see how their Platform is rapdily disintegrating from within.

Gettng back to the topic, after day 1 of the new Sejm, we can see...

PiS have gone against parliamentary convention and refused to allow the PSL to nominate a vice-marshal (speaker). Polish parliamentary tradition dictates that every party with representation in the Sejm is allowed to have a deputy speaker.

The second dodgy dealing concerns the oversight of the security services. Under the PO/PSL Government, this was done by a committee made up of 9 members from all parties, with a rotating presidency to ensure that the security services answered to the Sejm and not the Government. PiS have reduced the members to 7, while also abolishing the rotating presidency.

They've also planned to bring the Constitutional Tribunal (the highest legal authority in Poland) under the control of the government, and they've also failed to complete the nomination process of previously appointed judges.

In other words, we can already see that PiS are completely breaking all the rules of democracy.

I agree -- that was not a good move. PiS are not angels, after all. Not only in poor taste, but it may backfire at some point when PiS hope that PSL support some government initiative.

Let make it clear PiS in fact is a centrist party and always has been.


Nonsense Delph they are doing what they are doing in the best tradition of the last 25 years and PO standards.

The thing anyone is better than PO and voters have spoken.

EU peacekeeping forces must step in to bring back democracy and human rights !!!!11

Centrist? With a hard left economic policy and centre-right to right wing social policy, centrist is not what they are.


Ah yes. PO, that introduced the idea of parliamentary scrutiny over the secret services, PO, that introduced the idea of the rotating chairmanship to ensure no funny games, PO, that respected the convention of every party having a deputy speaker... and so on.

Poor Ironside. Even Polonius saw fit to condemn the actions of PiS.


That's why the voters made sure that PiS can't change the constitution, isn't it?

Yes. They aren't in any sense centrist.

what does "centrist" actually mean? In France, we say that those claiming to be "centrist" are ashamed to acknowledge that they are right or left wing ;). As a matter of fact, now, in Europe, everybody claims to be "centrist" "lol"

PiS is clearly on the left in terms of economics and on the right in terms of societal issues. A Pole recently told me that in Poland "right" or "left" usually referred to the party's relationships with the Church

Yes PO that is guilty of so many transgressions against the sprit of the law and corruption that I lost the count, more than you have hairs on your head.


I don't see his condemnation, never mind. I don't have to condone or condemn anything because I'm not PiS constituency and I didn't vote them, I'm glad they have majority and I'm waiting to see what they are going to do with it.


Hmm voters or forces behind the curtains?

Constitution sucks.


They are not hard left economically. Not at all.
Social policy? I gather you mean progressiveness like in gays privileges and gender nonsense? They would be center-right according to western standards but in Poland they are simply better reflecting opinions of the majority of Poles on those issues. In Poland they are firmly in the center, they might claim their are right but most parties in Poland claim to be that, even PO because left for many means communism.

PO was mostly based on opportunists without spine or morals and they were seemly copying what give them support from the western media and some western circles but their standing wasn't based on convictions, if burning on stake of gays would became a fashion again in western countries they wouldn't have bated an eye, it would be those PiS people you are bashing who would not stand for it.


Means they are reflecting ideas and views of majority of an average Pole. They are not radical in any way, if anything their are very timid in articulating Polish interests and rather soft in applying policies Polish national interest demands.

The suck up to the USA and Israel. That can't be good, mind you still better than PO a puppet of Germany and France.


In Poland left do not sits well with majority of voters and centrist do no apply to people who are being swayed by emotions in their political choices, hence PiS and PO like a many other parties in Poland claim to be right.


Which country left do you compare PiS to? France? Britain? The difference lays in the pudding. What do you mean by economics?


Yeah because Polish society is more "right" when you are talking about sex, gender related issues and also because those are problems of the rich society.