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Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland


delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
20 May 2019  #661
A voice of reason from you, @delphiandomine warm up my heart :-)

Well, let's not pretend that it hasn't had an effect on PiS. They were forced to defend themselves, and at the same time, it's probably given Konfederacja the advantage over Kukiz'15. Whether Kukiz can reply is another question, but that stunt with the yarmulke probably finished off Kukiz'15.

Can't fault the Konfederacja political strategy here - they found something to snatch some votes from PiS with, while also knocking K'15 out of the way. It might not be a nice tactic, but votes are votes.
OP pawian 157 | 9,016
20 May 2019  #662
I truly support Konfederacja against PiS. I would like them to get even 10%. These votes will be lost for PiS. Thanks God there is such entity as Konfederacja - without it, PiS would attract most of those radical nationalists. Scoring a good result now, Konfederacja will survive till autumn national elections in a good shape and will further steal votes from PiS, weakening its chances for reaching for power in the Parliament and the whole country.

At the same time, Biedroń`s Wiosna should get as low result as possible, That will teach them a little lesson and make them join the Coalition before autumn. Together, they will be able to sweep PiS off power.
Spike31 2 | 860
20 May 2019  #663
@Pawian, you switched you opinion quickly from: "Konfederacja doesn't have a chance to get into EU Parliament" to "I hope they will get at least 10%". Ach, the power of public opinion polls :-)

Obviously, the main purpose of the EU Circus elections is to flex muscles and to gain political popularity. The real power comes with autumn Parliamentary elections in Poland.

We don't know the results yet but let's speculate a bit.

PO will get more % of votes in the EU elec. than in the upcoming parliamentary elections. Partly because countryside PiS electorate doesn't care about the EU parliament elections at all, but they will mobilize for autumn elections.

Your hopes and calculations are quite far-fetched. If Konfederacja canibalise Kukiz 15 completely, PiS will have no other option that forming a coalition with Konfederacja who will gain expotential political power thanks to being the only political force that PiS could effectively cooperate with.

Basically PiS will have to grant a few important seats to Konfederacja leaders and agree to some "radical" (in their opinion) postulates such as deregulation of economy, laxing gun laws, much more independent foreign politics, tighter grip on immigration from outside of Europe and more..
OP pawian 157 | 9,016
20 May 2019  #664
you switched you opinion: "Konfederacja doesn't have a chance" to "I hope they will get at least 10%".

:):)
That only shows how two most important organs clash inside my body.
The first part (which I didn`t say in this style you "quote", but never mind) could be from my heart, while the second comes from my brain. ):

PiS will have no other option that forming a coalition with Konfederacja

Not so fast. :):) Both PiS and Konfederacja will be gravely outnumbered by successful EU Coalition, hopefully supplemented by Wiosna. They will form a coalition on Kaczyński`s sofa. hahaha
Spike31 2 | 860
20 May 2019  #665
This is how a political opinion polls in Poland are being made :-)

youtu.be/M0mOy53awI0
cms neuf - | 846
21 May 2019  #666
Konfederacja supports lax gun laws ?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
21 May 2019  #667
Yup, they're obsessed with the topic. Probably to do with their own inadequacy.
cms neuf - | 846
21 May 2019  #668
So on their website in the stupid 1 minute video there is a one second clip of some dude firing a gun.

Again if that is their strong belief they should be shouting about it in a manifesto and on facebook.

I think like the Brexit party they have decided the best thing to do is not to write down any policies - if some of the half million odd who are thinking of voting for them are anti gun then that's another few votes lost.
johnny reb 16 | 3,433
21 May 2019  #669
Konfederacja supports lax gun laws ?

The camel has his head in the tent, just a matter of time now.
Spike31 2 | 860
21 May 2019  #670
Here's an interesting public opinion poll for, bear with me, gazeta wyborcza.

twitter.com/aozga/status/1130396292193181696/photo/1

35% of young Poles age 18-24 wants to vote for Konfederacja.

By far the most than for any other political party in Poland. 25% in a wider age group of 18-34. The future is bRight.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
21 May 2019  #671
The camel has his head in the tent, just a matter of time now

Great more poles will practice their dome shots.

35% of young Poles age 18-24 wants to vote for Konfederacja.

I told everyone that the Polish youth is more nationalistic than ever. The liberals can thank their own crazy policies especially those that involved flooding Europe with turd worlders.



OP pawian 157 | 9,016
21 May 2019  #672
35% of young Poles age 18-24 wants to vote for Konfederacja.

Yes, they are mostly males who lack proper education and are unemployed or have menial jobs. Their career prospects are lousy. They blame everybody else for their misfortunes except themselves. Their favourite parties/politicians are those who promise to introduce "order" in the country.

I told everyone that the Polish youth is more nationalistic than ever.

Yes, the less education one has, the bigger chance he (yes, he, not sher) professes radical nationalism.
Fortunately, the group are also the laziest voters - they simply don`t participate. :):)
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
21 May 2019  #673
Is that why pis won in a landslide? I have no doubt konfederacja will exceed 5% and nor do most pollsters and political commentators.

The youth are the future. And the future is nationalistic. That's clear as day. Polish youth are sick of the Jewish extortion, the importation of homo agenda, turd world migrants and all the other crap the EU wants to force on the Polish people.

yes, he, not sher

There's plenty of young women who support nationalist policies, or at the very least do not want Poland to become inundated with migrants and pedaly
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
21 May 2019  #674
The youth are the future. And the future is nationalistic. That's clear as day.

Again. You are being shy with the truth. Only the uneducated young and the spoilt young brats whose daddies set them up with a place in medical or lawyer school vote PIS. I happen to live here and know a fukk load more about Polish society than you will ever hear from grandaddy and I can vouch by personal experience that you are talking through your arse. Again:) :)
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
21 May 2019  #675
I happen to live here and know a fukk load more about Polish society

Yeah you definitely know more about polish society despite being unable to communicate with the majority of poles or even understand the news unless it's in english and therefore is extremely biased and doesn't cover the situation accuratel, usually because someone with a variation of Stein, witz, man, gold, silver, green, Cohen, etc produced it Puhleease...

And actually no, it's the people all sorts of people from eastern poland that carried pis into a supermajority.

Only the uneducated young and the spoilt young brats whose daddies set them up with a place in medical or lawyer school vote PIS

I can say only fags and seniors who want socialism vote for pis. Doesn't matter who they are - 1 vote is 1 vote. And at the end of the day Poland will be as follows - conservative, nationalistic and Catholic. Regardless of who is in power the majority of poles are firmly against importing turd worlders and lgbt agenda. That's good enough for me to be proud of my motherland and it's people.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
21 May 2019  #676
And at the end of the day Poland will be as follows - conservative, nationalistic and Catholic

Doomed then. and doomed to repeat history. Congratulations.
Except there are clever people here here are working to make damn sure that does not happen. And yes, some are coming back - like Tusk, we hope.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
21 May 2019  #677
Except there are clever people here here are working to make damn sure that does not happen.

Doesn't happen? It's already happened lol. Good luck changing the opinion of the majority of the country that doesn't want non European immigrants or gay marraige.

like Tusk, we hope

You claim to know sooo much about Poland and polish society yet you're unaware that tusk is a has been, even amongst the 'liberals' which really are just quasi conservatives who want to enrich themselves with EU funds and throw a bone to the fag lovers and Jews every once in a while for more votes and sway I don't blame them. It's just sad do many people get fooled by them. But regardless, tusk is a nobody now in Poland. He knows it himself that's why he's not even in this election despite all his bluster. He knows he'd lose because even po voters don't like him anymore. And after being merkelrs lapdog he won't sway any conservatives that's for sure.

One thing he said that was wise is that the migrant relocation scheme is doomed
Miloslaw 6 | 1,795
21 May 2019  #678
like Tusk, we hope

Tusk is largely hated in Poland.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
21 May 2019  #679
unable to communicate with the majority of poles or even understand the news unless it's in english

Actually Dirk, I habitually buy Dziennik Bałtycki. I like a good read of the morning in the office before classes. I can't pretend I understand everything, but it's written in a certain style that gives me what I need. But thanks for your concern! I rememer Ironside sneering at my lack of Polish too, but I'm ahead of you "nationalists" I'm actually here - on the ground. While you are babbling about some mythical land that still only exists in your warped minds.

Tusk is largely hated in Poland.

You're probably right Miloslaw. When you return here for visits in your shiny car they probably hate you too. Unforgiving people, the Poles.
Dirk diggler 9 | 4,335
21 May 2019  #680
mythical land that still only exists in your warped minds.

Only exist in our warped minds? You say you're on the ground so take a look - Poland is homogenous, Christian and the majority of people do not want turd world migrants or legalization of degenerate marraiges that is a fact. Poland is socially conservative. It has been and judging by the fact that the youth are more nationalistic than ever it will be for a long time.

When you return here for visits in your shiny car they probably hate you too.

Do you not see all the new Porsches, mercedes, BMWs driving around? It's become the norm. This isn't the prl.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
21 May 2019  #681
on the ground

In Tri-City. By far the best place in Poland to live. The locals might drive like maniacs and be demonstrative, but PIS has no truck here.

Hated and despised, and that's how we like it!
Spike31 2 | 860
22 May 2019  #682
Yes, they are mostly males who lack proper education and are unemployed or have menial jobs.

Well, given it was true - and it's not, that would only mean that the current system is bad and it is alienating young and energetic males from contributing to Polish economy and society. But I understand that you only wanted to insult them [us] and not to look for a real answer.

I can clearly see that you are lost because instead of fighting with your imaginary enemies that are easy to dismiss and ridicule you have to face young eloquent people and very reasonable ideas and political solutions which they share.

It is easy to observe in public political debates a huge difference in knowledge and an intelectual potential between young national-conservatist politicians like Konrad Berkowicz, Slawomir Mentzen, Krzysztof Bosak and a young "elites" of the left.
cms neuf - | 846
22 May 2019  #683
I think a large Konfederacja vote from young people is possible so the 35 percent does not surprise me. Younger right wingers are not going to vote for PiS - especially in the current climate with the church and corruption issues.

What is concerning me is that PiS have given away tens of billions of public money and the net result is maybe a one percent move in their support. So how much more of my dough will they funnel into the unproductive parts of the country to ensure a victory ?

Not sure how the Morawiecki affair will end up but it takes the Warsaw kamienica thing and Amber Gold off the table as a propaganda weapon.
gumishu 11 | 4,987
22 May 2019  #684
Not sure how the Morawiecki affair

what affair bought years ago from a private owner by a private owner - this is an affair?
Ironside 47 | 9,613
22 May 2019  #685
I habitually buy Dziennik Bałtycki.

In German hands.
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
22 May 2019  #686
Yes........ So what? The largest media group in the world is owned by an Australian? And?
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
22 May 2019  #687
Well, well, well. PiS are getting terrified of Konfederacja, as seen here:

twitter.com/KrystPawlowicz/status/1130790079092404224

Damaging stuff like this is making the rounds, too: twitter.com/PracPol/status/1130833837230047234

Perhaps the most interesting: a lot of "I voted for PiS in 2015 but never again".
NoToForeigners 6 | 960
22 May 2019  #688
@delphiandomine

Overwhelming majority of Poles don't want refugees in Poland (both camps!)
Overwhelming majority of Poles don't want LGBT deviants in Poland,
Overwhelming majority of Poles don't want foreign countries to interfere with Poland's internal politics,
Overwhelming majority of Poles feel Poles first European later...

and You marxists can't do anything about it.

CYA Sunday! I can't wait to see u leftards crying and throwing toys out of pram.

(joking! U arent Polish, cant even speak Polish and cant vote in Poland)
Dougpol1 30 | 2,830
22 May 2019  #689
Really? Actually Pesel holding foreigners can vote in Euro and local elections. Sorry to burst your nationalist bubble. Try harder.
delphiandomine 83 | 17,596
22 May 2019  #690
cant vote in Poland

You know, I can still get the paper to vote in your electoral district instead. Perhaps I'll do it for fun - it's just a short hop along the A2 ;)

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