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Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland


johnny reb 16 | 3,125
13 May 2019  #601
Is it mentioned anywhere?

Genesis 9:13.
delphiandomine 84 | 17,591
13 May 2019  #602
Well done.

Perhaps someone can tell me why the PiS neo-Communists would hate biblical symbols so much.
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
13 May 2019  #603
PiS neo-Communists

An oxymoron if ever I heard one.

The Bolshevik Coalition aka the recontructed PZPR includes neo-Communists as well old style Communists like Leszek Miller and Włodzimierz Cimoszewicz among others.

rp.pl/Wybory-do-PE/190329673-Horala-Grupa-rekonstrukcyjna-PZPR-1989-teraz-nazywa-sie-Koalicja-Europejska.html
delphiandomine 84 | 17,591
13 May 2019  #604
An oxymoron if ever I heard one.

wiadomosci.wp.pl/akcja-piotrowicze-kto-z-pis-nalezal-do-pzpr-6067060569051777a

Need more help with your understanding? As we've been here before, perhaps you can explain to us if you think it's acceptable for the children of the nomeklatura to be holding high positions in the Polish government.

As we're also discovering, Morawiecki senior was protected by the SB during the 1980's.
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
13 May 2019  #605
akcja-piotrowicze-kto-z-pis-nalezal-do-pzpr-

I think bolek has once explained those communists in PiS ranks are good because they converted to PiSlamism. While those communists who refused to renounce their nasty ideology are bad. :) I admire the way those rightards see the world - black vs white. It makes life so much easier!
Ironside 47 | 9,550
13 May 2019  #606
Perhaps someone can tell me why the PiS neo-Communists would hate biblical symbols so much.

Wow, out of your meds again?

- black vs white.

You what? You are supporting PO, what the hell are you talking about? Ability to form an objective views based on facts is not yours, you wouldn't recognize a fact or the truth even if it would hit you repeatedly with a hammer on your forehead. So shut it!
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
13 May 2019  #607
So shut it!

Tell your Kremlin bosses that I won`t and you`d better be appointed to another site because here you are blown. :)
delphiandomine 84 | 17,591
14 May 2019  #608
I think bolek has once explained those communists in PiS ranks are good because they converted to PiSlamism.

Yes, it's quite interesting that he has no problem with actual real Communists in PiS just because they belong to PiS. One has to wonder where he would draw the line, or if belonging to PiS is enough to cover up for all previous sins.
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
14 May 2019  #609
akcja-piotrowicze-kto-z-pis-nalezal-do-pzpr

You are probably too young to remember but before 1989 there were 3.5 million members of PZPR - the vast majority of whom became members to get a job which you had to do to have a decent job. There is no indication that Piotrowicz adheres to Communist ideology and there is no reason to call him a Communist.

Incidentally one aim of PZPR was to ban religion. Notice anything similar with the latest speeches from the Bolshevik Coalition? They are intent on denigrating the Church and getting religion out of public life, just like the old Communists.
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
14 May 2019  #610
Islam controvercies in Election thread? :) Come on.

Get back to topic:

PiS mostly displays posters advertising particular candidates, while general PiS ads are rare.

You have the right to European living standards.



bolek_tusk 3 | 243
14 May 2019  #611
you have so little experience of what is going on in Poland

I'm actually watching Ewa Kopacz admit that she had no idea why 300 mld zl disappeared from the public purse under the last PO-PSL even when she was in charge.

God only knows why there is so much support for the Bolsheviks who stole all this money.
Dougpol1 28 | 2,670
14 May 2019  #612
your recent posts here

This question is now central to the governments's credibility. They have to act. This is election material. If they don't act, and demand that all complaints to the bishopry are sent to the public prosecutor or the police, then this is a national scandal which surley cannot be allowed to continue.

Which political party is for full disclosure of complaints against the clergy?
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
14 May 2019  #613
Good question. Some elements of Koalicja: Nowoczesna, Left. PO is hesitating whether to deal with the topic resolutely, they are afraid of starting an all-out war against the Church because they remember Palikot`s failure. So, they dont` know what to do, after all many of its members voted against more tolerant abortion laws in recent years. That is why Tusk wasn`t glad when his lecture at the university had been preceded by an open anti Church speech by Leszek Jażdżewski.
Dougpol1 28 | 2,670
14 May 2019  #614
That's a great anwer Pawian. And it makes me ashamed to realise that Poland has been my home these 30 years and there is still no inclination to restrict or punish these criminals. Something is very seriously wrong here in this modern age if these people are not going to be prosecuted as the law demands.

Therefore it seems we can all act according to our own consciences and wilfully disobey the law according to our mores, while of course being savvy and avoiding detection....
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
15 May 2019  #615
God only knows why there is so much support for the Bolsheviks who stole all this money.

Because even if they stole some money, it is peanuts compared to what new PIS bolsheviks have grabbed so far. Voters can see that PiS isn`t the same as the previous government. No, they are much worse, like killer leeches, with no constraints whatsoever.

it makes me ashamed to realise that Poland has been my home these 30 years and there is still no inclination to punish these criminals

You lived in Poland for 30 years and you still don`t understand its culture? Sth doesn`t hold water here. It would be sad to conclude you have wasted all that time.

if these people are not going to be prosecuted as the law demands.

Give us more time, things are changing, slowly but they are.
Spike31 2 | 877
16 May 2019  #616
Because even if they stole some money, it is peanuts compared to what new PIS bolsheviks have grabbed so far.

A dumb argument "we stole your money but they are stealing even more now". So the defence goes: "we are thieves but they may be bigger thieves than us so we're clearly better".

If you don't want thieves and socialists [same thing actually] in a government vote for Konfederacja
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
16 May 2019  #617
A dumb argument "we stole your money but they are stealing even more now".

I said it to bolek who constantly rants about PO but closes an eye when PiS is involved. PiS got to power promising they would act decently but didn`t keep their word.

As for voting Konfederacja because they are clean, well, I `d rather not try them out. :):)
delphiandomine 84 | 17,591
17 May 2019  #619
That's his face after getting the next trench of cash from beyond the Bug.
Spike31 2 | 877
18 May 2019  #620
Donald Tusk "the president of Europe" has broke the European Union law and directly supported one of the political parties in the upcoming elections.

newsweek.pl/polska/polityka/donald-tusk-na-marszu-koalicji-europejskiej/hckfhhq
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
18 May 2019  #621
Yet, we still love him. :):)

PS. If PiS broke the law only in such a trivial way as Tusk ,we would love them too. :)
Ironside 47 | 9,550
18 May 2019  #622
Yet, we still love him. :):)

That just hilarious. What a bunch of sleazy creatures. I honestly wonder are that F up in the head and Soviet or just regular morons? That an honest question.

Give us more time, things are changing, slowly but they are.

Sure right. LOL You will change what? You are useless punks, that way people voted PiS. Because eight years of PO rules expended them for losers who are unable to solve any problem or any issue. They were just robbing taxpayers blind.
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
18 May 2019  #623
I honestly wonder are that F up in the head and Soviet or just regular morons? That an honest question.

How can a Kremlin troll like you demand honesty? You are one big piece of trecherous bile that hates Poland and patriotic Poles. :)
Ironside 47 | 9,550
18 May 2019  #624
How can a Kremlin troll like you demand honesty?

Your words are just a commentary on a state of a steaming pile of s..., you're exposing yourselfers here for what you really are. Other than that it is a pathetic BS.
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
18 May 2019  #625
:):) So, after we reminded each other what we think about you and me, we can get back on topic, fully relaxed. :):) E.g., who would you vote if you had the voting rights in Poland?
bolek_tusk 3 | 243
18 May 2019  #626
I said it to bolek who constantly rants about PO

I rant about PO because there is plenty to rant about. Here is a selection of their misdeeds:- (about 115)

pikio.pl/pis-wylicza-wszystkie-afery-po-jest-ich-naprawde-duzo-pelna-lista/

Kindly provide a list of the bad things that PiS have done, or shut up about your claims which have no basis in fact. PiS's unwavering popularity over the last four years shows that they have earned the trust of the general public.
Crow 136 | 7,388
18 May 2019  #627
I have no nerves for elections in Poland. For already too long in Poland politician after politician humiliates itself and Poles, while urinates on us Serbs. So, I will close my eyes. Just tell me when elections are over and please let me know that somebody normal got power in Poland. Thank you.
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
18 May 2019  #628
PiS's unwavering popularity over the last four years shows that they have earned the trust of the general public.

You must have been away for some time: :)

PiS behind EC.
wnp.pl/parlamentarny/sondaze/koalicja-europejska-zostawia-w-tyle-pis-kukiz-15-poza-parlamentem-europejskim,504.html

Kindly provide a list of the bad things that PiS have done,

Not now. The coming EP elections are lost for PiS anyway, so I don`t need to strive so much, I have more interesting things on my mind. But I am going to start a new thread about PiS` all lousy jobs before national elections. :):)
Ziemowit 12 | 3,313
18 May 2019  #629
The coming EP elections are lost for PiS anyway

For the first time, at least in the EP elections in Poland, the main players realized that it is frequency at the polling stations that will decide the outcome of the EP election. Thus, their strategy is directed at that simple observation. The film made by the Sekielski brothers seems to be acting unfavorably for PiS at the moment and not in the sense that PiS voters will stop voting them, but through mobilizing the electorate of other, supposedly less pro-RCC parties. This way Biedroń's party "Wiosna" in particular seems to be presently on the rise.
OP pawian 156 | 8,511
18 May 2019  #630
Yes, the recent developments are fascinating, the situation is changing from day to day, I wonder what this will all lead to.

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