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Election marathon 2018-2020 in Poland


mafketis 37 | 10,904
10 May 2019 #571
Such obnoxious provocation with the clear aim to offend shouldn't be allowed.

Said like a true Soviet....
Ironside 53 | 12,420
10 May 2019 #572
tsk tsk as I said there are many ways freedom of speech principle can work, your attachment to the American model is touching but not very rational or realistic.
Jaskier
10 May 2019 #573
As usual in situations like that the effect is comical. If someone doesn't underatand that using so much government power to go after someone putting posters up is big overreaction then I feel sorry for them
Ziemowit 14 | 4,263
10 May 2019 #574
That's the point. They did nothing on seeing people hanging the portraits of their political opponents and yet they decide to send a squadron of police to catch some innocent lady with some great talent for painting the halo around the head of the Virgin Mary in new exciting colours of the rainbow. Is the rainbow a symbol of an oppresive regime like the swastika was? So the effect must have been comical.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
10 May 2019 #575
And why didn't the police tell the authorities that there was nothing they could act on, unless a crime was suspected to have been committed? Where did politically free policing go? Or maybe I'm being naive...UK police are probs the same (in the pay of their masters). This is one reason why many never co-operate with the filth.
Jaskier
10 May 2019 #576
It reminds me a bit of situations when for example the tax office goes after some old women selling few carrots from her yard getting maybe 200zl a month.

Even if theoretically you can ( the silly 'offending religious feelings' law or tax law) it simply looks petty and ridiculous
Spike31 3 | 1,811
10 May 2019 #577
Let's focus on really important things. S. Michalkiewicz and Konfederacja in Polish parliament speaking against illegal ACT 447. This act is a daylight robbery done by WJC [World Jewish Congress] poorly dressed as "compensations". Basically American Jews want to us to pay them for Polish citizens of Jewish background who lost their lives in German death camps during WWII:

youtube.com/watch?v=-WAmaqBoJ48

Konfederacja is the only political party that wrote a document stopping act of political capitulation against WJC and ACT 447. The rest of political patries are trying to ingnore it and PiS has only made few empty declarations with no legal power so far.

This is going to be a great test to see which politicias have Polish interest on their minds.
OP pawian 224 | 24,452
10 May 2019 #578
Yes, Konfederacja has launched a campaign against it. However, PiS has realised they might lose nationalist voters if they don`t react so they are preparing their own reply to the act and it is going to be announced next week.

However, in case anybody wanted to discuss the Act itself here, I need to remind you there is already a thread about it:
https://polishforums.com/usa-canada/acts-american-congress-83066/

so don`t go off-topic, please.
Ironside 53 | 12,420
10 May 2019 #579
They did nothing on seeing people hanging the portraits of their political opponents

That is a political debate, why would they do anything unless there is violence?
Jaskier
11 May 2019 #580
So where was violence in a poster of Maria with rainbow halo?
Ironside 53 | 12,420
11 May 2019 #581
ideological assault is self explanatory.
OP pawian 224 | 24,452
11 May 2019 #582
Such obnoxious provocation with the clear aim to offend shouldn't be allowed.

It is your opinion about Rainbow Madonna.

That is a political debate, why would they do anything unless there is violence?

It is your opinion about effigy- hanged EP members.

A nice example of double standard.

Get lost

I thought you are intelligent enough to know that I won`t . :)
Ironside 53 | 12,420
11 May 2019 #583
It is your opinion about Rainbow Madonna.

Not only mine, if it was only mine nobody would strive to do that to offend. Wasted effort just for a one person. Purposeful, premeditated act to offend a large par of the population is in fact an ideological assault. Should be banned and excluded from the freedom of speech legislation. (a future legation so far there is not such a principle in the Polish law, not clear cut one like in the USA).

By the way six colors are not a rainbow but an ideological banner. What? Are you pretending not to know that?

It is your opinion about effigy- hanged EP members.A nice example of double standard.

You are a simpleton. Comparing apples and oranges again. Those are politicians and that was a part of a political debate. PO has been know for displaying effigies of Pis politicians in a similar manner - that is a fair play. You kind is just simply a walking example of 'kalism' double standard.

that I won`t . :)

I know just an expression.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
11 May 2019 #584
Comparing apples and oranges again. Those are politicians and that was a part of a political debate.

So you are saying that Polish politicians are above the law?
Ironside 53 | 12,420
11 May 2019 #585
please try to follow, I'm saying that Polish politicians or politicians in general should be a fair game as long as there is no violence.
OP pawian 224 | 24,452
12 May 2019 #586
Korwin has odd views on many topics and certainly isn`t my hero. But he still deserves some respect for one important thing - he is able to speak English, heavily accented but communicative, sth that is not so obvious for many Polish politicians, especially new candidates of PiS in this year`s elections.

The second thing for which I could spare him some appreciation is his sense of humour - crazy at times but also witty.

An interview with Korwin.

youtu.be/D97RsccfIS8
Miloslaw 19 | 4,971
12 May 2019 #587
@pawian

You can say what you like about Korwin, but he is a true Polish patriot and fully understands why The EU is a bad institution.
OP pawian 224 | 24,452
12 May 2019 #588
Severe logical incongruity in your sentence I have found. :) Do you know what? A true Polish patriot knows that the EU is the best thing that happened to Poland within 300 last years. :) Anybody who says the opposite is a Kremlin troll. It is so sad you support the Kremlin like that fool Iron.
Crow 154 | 8,996
12 May 2019 #589
he is a true Polish patriot and fully understands why The EU is a bad institution.

Is it possible to me to agree in something with this Miloslaw. Seams so. Korwin may be for positive changes in Poland. He loves Serbs and support Serbia`s sovereignty. He would also find way to coordinate with Hungary. See, he could be true man for Poland.

patriot knows that the EU is the best thing that happened to Poland within 300 last years.

Don`t speak like that dobri pane brate. EU is golden cage and Poland is like a cricket that sing in golden cage. But, cage is cage. Euthanasia. Extinction. Assimilation.
Dougpol1 31 | 2,640
12 May 2019 #590
he is able to speak English, heavily accented but communicative

Jesus Pawian - he speaks English just as I speak Polish. Do you think the interviewer really understands what he is saying? No clarifcation needed? Lol
OP pawian 224 | 24,452
12 May 2019 #591
Do you think that as a Pole I understand his peculiar English better than a British person does? :)

BTW, don`t call me Jesus - I am finished with that preaching.
bolek_tusk 3 | 225
13 May 2019 #592
Is the rainbow a symbol of an oppresive regime like the swastika was?

It certainly is! The LBGT fascists seem to have a disproportionate amount of power in the world.

It won't be long before we start using the term LGBTQIA in Europe since it has already taken root in the US.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
13 May 2019 #593
It certainly is!

Perhaps you should read the Bible once in a while. Considering a Biblical symbol to be a sign of oppression is certainly the rantings of someone who isn't familiar with the contents of it.
bolek_tusk 3 | 225
13 May 2019 #594
An interview with Korwin.

This is the best Korwin speech I've seen

youtube.com/watch?v=3YTe5YNHBQA

The expression on the woman's face at the end is priceless :)

Perhaps you should read the Bible once in a while.

And your point is....
Spike31 3 | 1,811
13 May 2019 #595
PiS has realised they might lose nationalist voters if they don`t react so they are preparing their own.

Great. So the political and social pressure makes sense. As long as this law gets written and properly enforced I'm content.

That said, we should still vote for Konfederacja so they could become a nationalist watchmen of a Government and make a constant political pressure from the Right side.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
13 May 2019 #596
vote for Konfederacja

Latest poll gave them what, 4.2%?

They probably won't even make it to the national elections as a single unit.
Ironside 53 | 12,420
13 May 2019 #597
Considering a Biblical symbol to be a sign of oppression

try holy water sometimes, it could be helpful to you or you disappeared in the puff of smoke, just go for it. By the way six colors has nothing to do with a rainbow but all to do with ideological banner.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
13 May 2019 #598
You count the colours every time you see a rainbow?
Ironside 53 | 12,420
13 May 2019 #599
only when some fanatical ideologues are involved as they start yapping about the Bible or whatnot, that rainbow from the Bible has seven colors, LBGT 'rainbow' has them six, are you telling me they are stupid and don't know how to count?
delphiandomine 88 | 18,131
13 May 2019 #600
How do you know how many colours the rainbow in the Bible had? Is it mentioned anywhere?

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