US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland

The deployment of the patriots is a strategic political move, not as a deterrent, but to reinforce the military alliance. Same goes for the shield. Why Poland wants that is a good question to ask the government. Poland is worried about the big boys, and always will. I'm guessing with a strong military, they will be more willing to defy economic and military threats.

Military threats from whom?

Russia, and a perceived threat from Germany. There is no immediate threat, but we'll see what happens in 20 years when we're all swimming in debt.

I've just stepped out of a 65 year timewarp. Now, where were we? ;0 ;) Sth about threats from missiles? ;)

Yes, should Poland have to deploy troops in the battlefield, there will most likely be a need for air defense artillery.

Anyway, you asked. Remember, Poland is the only country with an inter-EU air defense identification zone. You figure that one out, and you'll probably have an answer as to why Poland wants Patriots.

How long has this zone existed?

Third Republic has always had it as far as I know.

Yet they haven't had Patriot missiles all this time? ;) ;)

They have 50 year old SA-3s at the moment

Let's not forget China. They're taking over economically, importing everything including GARLIC into the EU for Chrissake. They now own the national debts of a number of countries, especially African. Now that the peril jaune has discovered the power of the purse, we'd better learn Cantonese!

Lets try again - it's obviously too much for the American censors of this forum.

What is the point in your silly little forum if posters cant speak?

The land of the free? What is this ****?

We were having a good debate there and you Yanks went and pulled the posts, unless you've just shipped them somewhere else.

I hope you are proud of yourselves but you are making yoursleves look bigoted and foolish, along the lines of that Republican Fox News shite.

I'm guessing it was off topic so it was moved to Random.

Just start a thread on how the UK betrayed its alliance with Poland and I'll post there.

Just goes to show: location is everything. Got real-estate? ;)

LOL - It wasn't OT - Poland doesn't need the Patriot at all - but wants to brown-nose the very people who didn't want to aid the country in the Second World War - until they were attacked by the Yellow Peril.

The UK supported Poland and it's servicemen died for Poland, and the Poles in turn who got out bravely carried on the fight. The Americans on the other hand were worse than useless until personally challenged themselves.

Better have some respect and gratitude for British sacrifice. But that's not the Polish way is it?


But Poland doesn't need a strong military Convex, that is my point. The economy matters, and what matters is that Tusk stops handing out 100.000 zlotys to every bloke who's had his house damaged by subsidence.

I've got a drink problem. I can't afford it. Should I ask this socialist government for a handout?

Socialist handouts and outdated weapons systems are not needed. The borders of Poland are inviolate, because Russia or anybody else knows the Nato Charter all too well.

As an idiot taxpayer and ZUS bleeder, I am absolutely furious at this Tusk government now and he can **** right off.

What the use of strong economy in the case of Russian invasion? Will we stop invading forces by throwing at them with money?
Strong economy in important, strong military is paramount. And so far Poland did not have any long or medium range anty air defence worth speaking of. Sure, one battery of Patriots will not help much, but that is the start. With time, we can buy more of these.

next invasion won`t come from direction of Russia

It would come from behind, from Eurabia

Sure, Russia is just the most probable candidate. After all, they just killed our President.
But it can be the German invasion ;-) If Germans one day go ape about some new, Muslim Führer.
Or even EU invasion, if EU gets too bossy and Poland decides to bale out. Anyway, some anti aircraft rockets would be handy on that unfortunate day, I think.

Are you happy now, Crow?

It is a weapon which would come in handy in war, any war. It's just that Russia doesn't like the idea of arming up and starting the race again (mostly because THEY KNOW they will lose)

Russki's see it as danger to their protection while Poles thinks of it as a bonus to their protection

hmm

It's just a question of losing face at home, and to a lesser extent, abroad. There is no military threat.

Exactly Convex - couldn't have put it better myself - and in a country where the constant excuse is " niestety, nie mamy pieniedzy", it's an absolute disgrace.

There are more important problems - for example, the economy?

Ah - wait a minute - that would involve creative thinking :((

They're already here..

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Those aren't patriot missiles. According to the news Obama has put this on "hold" (like so many other things @_@) since his talks with Russia several months ago.

That most certainly is a patriot launcher.


Well, the US didn't have any kind of alliance with Poland. The UK was responsible for making sure that Poland was safe from attack. The UK sold their allies out at Yalta, not the US. The US freed the Philippines, as promised. The UK gave their allies over to the Soviets.

I'd be happy to entertain this further if you could produce the guarantee that the US provided to Poland. I can show you the guarantee that the UK provided to Poland without landing a single soldier in Poland.

The US had nothing to sell out, the British were the ones that screwed over their allies.

in the time of peace, prepare youself for war!!!
as a pole, Patriot missiles in not the weapon i would like to get from america!!
a one installation of HARP. or rusian energetics weapon would be nice!!!
but it is a dream, offensive and defensive in one package.
regarding The US had nothing to sell out, the British were the ones that screwed over their allies.
just finished the reading of The German
White Paper! wow interesting?????

Oh no, it's confirmed!


news.bbc

Head for the hills - er, no, AWAY from the hills!

what a desperate move by mUSA

ahahahaha hahah hahah

According to itn.co.uk today: ' "The United States is deeply committed to Poland's security and sovereignty," Clinton said at a joint press conference with Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski'.

In that case, America can take back the millions of Colorado beetle it dropped on Poland in the 1960s to destroy Poland's potato crops - or perhaps just nuke 'em with their missiles.

its all great.... said Clinton. Serbs used to call him clitor-man

Actually, it was Hilary, not Bill, who was in Kraków yesterday.

who told you this silly BS?