Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.

What does this "extra tax" mean? I thought this "retail tax" was meant to replace the value-added tax (VAT). If so, you cannot call it an "extra" tax imposed on top of the existing taxation. But I may be wrong - can you elighten me on that?


I have an account with them, but so far I haven't noticed anything by which the bank passed this tax on me as a client. Can you enlighten me on that, too?

You mean the Tusk govt that promsied no tax rises and then increased VAT to 23%. After then PM Tusk said nobody pays radio-TV fees, many people stopped paying. Later they received notices that they owed 1,500 zł or more.

At present, the monthly radio fee is 7zł (50 gr more than in 2015) and the TV fee is 22.70zł (1.20zł more than last year).

W 2016 czekają na nas podwyżki abonamentu RTV. Od 1 stycznia 2016 roku opłata za używanie odbiornika radiowego wyniesie 7 zł miesięcznie, czyli o 50 groszy więcej niż obecnie, a opłata za używanie odbiornika radiowego i telewizyjnego 22,70 zł miesięcznie. Tutaj stawka wzrosła o 1 zł 20 groszy. - Decyzja o nowych stawkach podyktowana jest koniecznością zapewnienia przez Krajową Radę Radiofonii i Telewizji stabilności finansowej mediom publicznym w obliczu coraz niższej ściągalności abonamentu pochodzącego z bieżących wpłat - informuje KRRiTV.N

Essentially, the plan is to stick a universal tax on all retailers regardless of size or whether they're offline or online, and the tax will be based on turnover rather than size. Obviously, it's going to be passed onto consumers - like the bank tax.


https://polishforums.com/news/poland-pis-impose-blanket-retail-tax-77028/4/#msg1526697

Here you go. There might be others - but for instance, ING has really ramped up the fees.

Banks are cutting interest rates paid on savings and increases margins on current and future loans. They are also increasing charges for running accounts.
VAT will never go away, but retail tax is now said to considered for businesses with a certain turnover and it will be paid monthly. We are supposed to get something concrete by the end of the week PIS have said.

That's exactly what happened. When Tusk said "no tax rises", a tax rise occured.


That's exactly what happened. When Tusk said "don't pay the radio/TV fee" (it was at the time PiS was in power in 2005-2007), I myself stopped paying, but when PO came back to power I began to receive the reminders to pay. I am sure voters did take that into account when they were voting PO out of office last year.

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Mmm cultural enrichment !

smh. why they allow racists like G to post here??

anyway, back to topic. Poland needs the EU! i think i'll join some protests asap

Not even the most PISed-up VIP supporter of the Dear Leader Chairman Kaczynski would think that it's possible to replace a 23% tax with a 2% tax! No, this new tax is a tax on top of VAT, or to be more exact VAT will be added on top of this tax, so you'll now be paying tax on tax.


Good to see the yuppies of Siedlce and Koszalin turning out.

Add this to the latest news that PiS are planning to shut the shops on Sundays, guaranteeing that people will lose money because they can't work while paying more in shops.

do u think PiS will cut refugee benefits?

why they worrying about church more than foreigners (new poles)?

Saying this, you have shown that you don't have the slightest idea how the VAT is constructed and how it works. I shall remind you that in Poland as well as in the UK there was once no VAT, only the retail tax existed.

Seriously?! Got a link to that one? That will cause serious complaints from companies that invested in retail real estate on the assumption that shops can open seven days a week and from shops that make their money by being open for seven days a week.

With pleasure.

strefabiznesu.gloswielkopolski.pl/artykul/sklepy-jednak-beda-zamkniete-w-niedziele-nowe-wladze-sa-za


Higher taxes AND less work. What a mess.

Have you ever worn a Pampers liek supermarket cashiers do because your boss didn't let you take a loo break? Did your boss ever force you to work on Sunday instead of having the day off to go to church and spend time with the family?


It's about time! That was the case in many countries before the greed mentality took over. Everybody, even the godless, need a Sunday off. Even if they don't attend a chruch service they can at least sit down to Sunday dinner and spend time with the family. Of course, there are those (on PF as well?) who spend half of Sunday nursing a hangover before groggily crawling out of bed and getting started on the next booze-up.

Could you clarify what you mean? You seem to be saying that all supermarket cashiers wear Pampers because they are not given breaks. Obviously that is absolute nonsense. Do you mean that you read a story somewhere in which a cashier claimed to have done this? If so, please supply details.

What about policemen, firemen, doctors, nurses, teachers, bus drivers, tram drivers, priests, waiters, bar staff, hotel receptions, hotel cleaners, taxi drivers, all staff on trains, all staff at airports, pilots and cabin crew, TV staff, journalists, power station and transmission network staff, anybody who works in production facilities that can't be shut down once a week, etc, etc, etc, etc? What about their right for Sundays off? What makes the staff in shops so special? When are you going to take part in demonstrations to 'protect the rights' of everybody else who signed up for a job that sometimes requires them to work on Sunday?

If you were a Pole you'd have immediately caught on. This is common knowledge. Ask about. There were TV programmes about this a few years back so probably it's a rarity or no longer the case after "S" got after them. But it does reflect the neo-colonial mentality of foreign chain owners and how they treat their cheap Polish semi-slave labour.

He is; you aren't.


He did; you refused to give the details to back up your laughable story.

If the subject interested you, you could've googled for details. Since you didn't here goes. This is but one example:
wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1347,title,Kasjerka-z-Biedronki-zsikala-sie-siedzac-przy-kasie,wid,10962162,wiadomosc.html?ticaid=11655a

So, an isolated incident of an abusive employer breaking the law. That hardly justifies the statement that



I do indeed remember how some Biedronkas exploited staff, and I boycotted the chain for several years because of it. Nevertheless, in modern Poland Sundays are the only days a lot of busy people have the time to shop. It beggars belief that any government would want to limit ciizens' choice in this way.

And the Saturday evening Vigil Mass exists for people who work on Sunday mornings.

Not to mention teachers on school trips, teachers working with weekend students, mountain rescuers, builders (many projects work 24/7), radio workers, breakdown/recovery drivers, chefs, those working on ships (for instance, those that have to work at night selling cheap stuff in Polish waters when the ferries leave for Sweden/Denmark), border guards, customs officers and many many more.

Why are shop workers treated in a special way by Polonius but not everyone else? I mean, according to him...


So why are border crossings open on Sundays?

This so called "democracy" was to serve foreign, mostly western, interests - nothing to do with common Polish folk or for the good of Poland, no.

I remember when that came in in the UK, what, forty-odd years ago? My shift-working nurse mother used to go to Mass on Saturdays if she was working on Sundays.

Everyone knows there are emergency workers, travellers, etc. but food can be picked up at most petrol stations. Besides emergency types know where teóehy can get food 24/7. It's a question of a day off for thosuands of retail chain workers. A Tuesday or Friday simply lacks the festive family-centred aura of a time-honoured Sunday, the Lord's day and a day of rest.

This so called "democracy" was to serve foreign, mostly western, interests - nothing to do with common Polish folk or for the good of Poland, no.

Why are they treated in a special way?

More to the point, why are PiS taking away work and jobs from Poles?

And plenty of them in Poland. There's also an early Mass and an afternoon Mass in almost every parish - in fact plenty of the people attending Polish pro-democracy rallies on Saturday go straight on to the local Vigil Mass.

More to the point, why are churches open on Sundays? Even priests need Sundays off. I wonder when we can expect to see Polo writing glowingly about demonstrations held outside churches across Poland where people loudly demand that priests stop being forced to work on Sundays (and instead be told to spend the day at home with their families).

On the positive side, banning people from shopping on Sunday would certainly increase the turn-out at the demonstrations in defence of democracy (assuming that the demos were moved to Sundays rather than being on the now almost traditional Saturdays).