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Demonstrations in Poland in defence of democracy.


pweeg3
1 Jan 2016 #601
Shouldn't the law contain provisions that the taxed enterprises must accordingly reduce their profit margin and not pass the tax onto clients or risk puninitive measures if they do?

Thats, fundamentally, anti-capitalist. If they wanted to reduce profit margin, they would introduce a law to do that, but they haven't.

Companies work on the principle of taking the costs and adding a %-age for profit. So,,

a) Increase the cost with taxes means the cost of service will go up.
b) If you can't make a profit, take your investment(money) away and use it for something else more profitable.
c) Reduced competition means everyone remaining can increase prices to cover the tax and make more profit by increasing prices even more.

Its capitalism, the free movement of capital to where its best and most efficiently used, for the best return.
mafketis 24 | 9,174
1 Jan 2016 #602
Sure less than Merkel was formed by the DDR.

No less, no more. they seem kind of similar, they think they have good intentions but have brought (and will probably bring) catastrophic results.

Soviet-backed regime than the 30 PO MPs

Do you have any idea how immature and tedious that type of argument sounds? All you can do is "welll PO was worse!" that's not an argument fit for adults. Either what PiS is doing stands on its merits or it doesn't. I think what they're doing is very harmful.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
1 Jan 2016 #603
Either what PiS is doing stands on its merits or it doesn't.

Given that all of the heads of the public TV channels resigned today and yesterday, it doesn't bode well at all. Jedynka (Polskie Radio) is also alternating between the Polish and European anthems on the hour, every hour.

What will be interesting is to see just how dreadful TVP and Polskie Radio become with puppet journalists that aren't allowed to ask any difficult questions and exist solely as the mouthpiece of the government. Kaczyński clearly intends the public media to mirror Russian media. Fortunately, censoring the internet is beyond them ;)
mafketis 24 | 9,174
1 Jan 2016 #604
Fortunately, censoring the internet is beyond them ;)

If they could, Polonius would find reasons to blame PO.
General Joe - | 2
1 Jan 2016 #605
As a foreign investor the current instability in Poland is not all bad. The zloty will fall further allowing us to pick up polish assets even cheaper. The economy will weaken forcing more cheap labour into the uk where we welcome hard working poles. Frankly I feel very sorry for all the people that have to live (temporarily) under this regime, but for us foreigners, it's has its benefits.
Dougpol1 32 | 2,708
1 Jan 2016 #606
puppet journalists

Does Olejnik still work for TVP Delph?
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
1 Jan 2016 #607
puppet journalists

It looks as though the PO puppet journalists (Kraśko, Lis, Lis's wife Hanka, Tadla et al) are on the way out. Thy are being replaced with reliable newspeople who offer balanced reporrting not Platformerian propaganda. And it's about time. Eight years of Tuskophilia and Platformerian brown-nosing had become pretty had to take.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
1 Jan 2016 #608
Given that PiS plan to fire every journalist that isn't 100% loyal to them, it seems that "balanced reporting" is very much not on the agenda.

Don't worry, Putin also claims that Russia has a healthy media scene.
Wulkan - | 3,249
2 Jan 2016 #609
Given that PiS plan to fire every journalist that isn't 100% loyal to them,

Negative, they want to suck every journalist who is loyal to PO which is very wise.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
2 Jan 2016 #610
Its capitalism

It's a story for little children. The real world goes far beyond "Economy lesson 1".

As a foreign investor...

Thank God you will be back to teaching English on Monday.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #611
Negative, they want to suck every journalist who is loyal to PO which is very wise.

They will fire every single journalist that doesn't behave in the way expected - complete, blind obedience to PiS and blind hatred of the opposition.
Wulkan - | 3,249
2 Jan 2016 #612
Put the "last 8 years" instead of "will" and "PO" istead of "PiS" and you have it 100% right.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #613
Nice try, but TVP actually was the most unbiased channel in the recent election coverage. Compare that to TV Trwam and the relentless support of PiS...
Wulkan - | 3,249
2 Jan 2016 #614
Nice try, but TVP actually was the most unbiased channel in the recent election coverage.

It was the other way round and you well know about it but it doesn't matter as it will change now, fortunately.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #615
wyborcza.pl/1,75478,19387866,krrit-wybory-najmniej-obiektywnie-pokazywano-w-tv-trwam-i-tv.html

All there in black and white.

It's quite amazing the way that PiS supporters will lie through their teeth.

Incidentally, something very nice is being planned for Poznań :)
Wulkan - | 3,249
2 Jan 2016 #616
All there in black and white.

Apart from that it's just a worthless rag "wyborcza" without any credibility what so ever.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #617
Why not read the report, then?

Ah, wait...you can't, because it would mean having to concede that the PiS-media is biased trash.
Wulkan - | 3,249
2 Jan 2016 #618
Why not read the report, then?

I know that reading in Polish can take quite some time for you but I had enough time to read it twice, too bad I can't get this time back.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #619
The actual report, I assume?

You know, the strangest thing about PiS and their supporters is the way that everything that doesn't conform to their viewpoint is immediately a lie. That seems to be why they're spending so much time alleging KOD are "foreign funded and controlled" instead of looking at the reality.
Wulkan - | 3,249
2 Jan 2016 #620
You know, the strangest thing about PiS and their supporters is the way that everything that doesn't conform to their viewpoint is immediately a lie.

Yes, this sentence is just another lie of yours.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
2 Jan 2016 #621
"foreign funded and controlled"

Hungarian Jew George Soros who is pulling the strings is certainly foreign and not Polish. He may be working through his Batory Foundation or some other front group he has bankrolled.
Crow 146 | 9,152
2 Jan 2016 #622
Greedy fell malformed fiends from hell gather to grab what can be grabbed. But, they won`t
weeg
2 Jan 2016 #623
As a foreign investor the current instability in Poland is not all bad.

But will it get worse? I'm thinking of selling up. The model they seem to aiming for is Putin's Russia, minus the natural resources. A neo-Marxist dictatorship isn't somewhere I'm going to live in and I don't want my son growing up in a economic disaster zone.

I'm going to get my son British citizenship.
smurf 39 | 1,981
2 Jan 2016 #624
As a foreign investor the current instability in Poland is not all bad.

Spoken like a true capitalist. Be careful, Glorious Leader & Chairman will have his hounds hunting you.
Librarius - | 91
2 Jan 2016 #625
Glorious Leader & Chairman

You are wrong. Glorious Leader & Chairman would be delighted that simple and universal formula for success is sold so cheap by vagrant tinkers.
Polonius3 1,000 | 12,446
2 Jan 2016 #626
every journalist that

That's your propaghandist's spin on it. They plan to sack only confirmed pro-PO toadies and biased PiS-bashers.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #627
Why should anyone be sacked? Isn't a diversity of political views a good thing for public TV to have?

We all know what the PiS agenda is.
dolnoslask
2 Jan 2016 #628
The British government would do well to to follow PO and get rid of the liberal left wing BBC Corporation. . diversity of political views on public TV in Europe is very rare for sure, we now all have to sing the song of Merkel and Europe or forever be dammed as Nazis (Which most of are not).
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
2 Jan 2016 #629
Why should anyone be sacked?

For similar reason several people in post-WW2 Germany needed to be sacked.
OP delphiandomine 88 | 18,475
2 Jan 2016 #630
How tasteless, comparing Nazis to journalists.


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